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panavision
May 6, 2010, 11:41 PM
I've been reading the guides throughly and I just want to be confident before installing everything and flashing so if someone can just confirm what I'm doing is correct, I'll feel better about this whole process!!! Thank you!

I have a 1st Gen Mac Pro running Snow Leopard 10.6.3

- First I'll shut my computer off.
- Unplug the monitors
- Remove the 7300 GT and put it in to slot 4
- Add the XFX card in to slot 1 and use the extra super drive power while using a split molex to connect 2 of the power cables that come with the graphic card
- Connect 1 monitor in the slot for (7300 GT)
- boot up, and run Zeus on OSX (Select ATI tab, Select 4800 series, Select Snow Leopard ,Browse for the ROM with [groths.se/atiflashingtool/ROMS.zip] and select the XFX ZWFL & ZWFC rom, Click Flash)
-power down
-unplug the monitor cable from slot 4 (7300 GT)
-plug both monitors into the 4870

Good to go? Looking forward to your help! :)



Cindori
May 7, 2010, 02:49 AM
You got most of it right.


1st, make sure what Revision of ZWFC you have. It will say on the box, "Made in China" and then Rev. X.X

You have to find a ROM for the same revision as your card. I do not know what revision the ROMS.zip - ZWFC rom is for. But many different ZWFC Rev ROMS can be found in the 4870 thread.


2nd, in 10.6.3, some people get problems with dual display. So start out connecting 1 display. IF you get dual display problems, install http://groths.org/dualdvi.zip

panavision
May 7, 2010, 10:14 AM
excellent! I will install my graphic card tonight and post my results. Thanks Cindori! :)

ChalkyZero
May 7, 2010, 04:00 PM
I came across this trying to confirm that 1GB versions do exist, before I buy one online. It seems a little too good to be true, compared to the price for the 512MB one from Apple.

Please do post your success...

Cindori
May 7, 2010, 04:43 PM
if you are having a hard time finding confirmations of success, maybe this 2400 post topic on the subject can help you.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=661681

Mackilroy
May 7, 2010, 07:44 PM
I came across this trying to confirm that 1GB versions do exist, before I buy one online. It seems a little too good to be true, compared to the price for the 512MB one from Apple.

Please do post your success...
What, 1 GB versions of the 4870/4890?

Here's mine. I paid ~$200 for it.

panavision
May 7, 2010, 07:56 PM
this is the one I purchased.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5034920&SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDER&cm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals

panavision
May 7, 2010, 09:42 PM
So my Graphics card is a Ver E.0.

I put the 7300 GT in the 4th slot.
Plugged in 1 monitor
Put the XFX 4870 in the 1st slot
Boot up

the grey loading screen appears for 2 minutes, loading wheel turns and goes to the dark grey screen asking me to restart.

MacVidCards
May 7, 2010, 10:36 PM
That would be a "Kernel Panic".

Do you have another Mac you could run the Pro from remotely?

In theory you can use Natit or ATY_init to enable the allow the 4870 to work (w/o 7300) so you can flash.

Or a WIndows machine with DOS...always a sure-fire route.

If you are actually working at Panavision you are right around the corner, I drove by there on way back from Post Office today. You can bring it by with a six of Stella and i'll flash it for you. Just promise you aren't going to turn into a video card stalker....been there, done that.

panavision
May 7, 2010, 10:50 PM
how can I get in contact with you?

panavision
May 8, 2010, 12:11 PM
That would be a "Kernel Panic".

Do you have another Mac you could run the Pro from remotely?

In theory you can use Natit or ATY_init to enable the allow the 4870 to work (w/o 7300) so you can flash.

Or a WIndows machine with DOS...always a sure-fire route.

If you are actually working at Panavision you are right around the corner, I drove by there on way back from Post Office today. You can bring it by with a six of Stella and i'll flash it for you. Just promise you aren't going to turn into a video card stalker....been there, done that.

I have a Macbook Pro laptop if that does any good?

Where can I find intructions for Natit or ATY_inti? I can't find it on the forums...:confused:

Cindori
May 8, 2010, 12:54 PM
just flash bootcd . . .. .. .... . ... . . . ...





......

panavision
May 12, 2010, 11:41 PM
I wasn't able to flash from my own macpro due to kernal panic.

Rominator was generous to help me out.

He booted the card into DOS. Flashed it instantly and I was good to go.

I came home, popped the card in. Only one monitor worked so I installed the Kext Helper and rebooted and both monitors are working fine now.

I am a complete newbie to all of this stuff and thanks to Rominator, I can in fact clarify that the 4870 ZWFC Ver. 4.0 in flashable. Yes you get the power warning thing, but it goes away.

http://i42.tinypic.com/10x4qky.jpg

MacVidCards
May 13, 2010, 05:32 AM
A Hero, no less?

Actually, the real hero was my cab driver.

Panavision left my place at 8:30. Still had to throw some stuff in a suitcase.

At 9:30 I was on my flight to JFK, taking off over Burbank. Never would have gotten through security that fast @ LAX. And somehow we hit nearly every light green enroute.

The ZWFC was just like one I flashed months ago. Panavision says still available from TigerDirect.

Not even sure which ROM we used, but an easy flash once DOS was up.

(You can always mail me the 6 pack) ;)

hueybui
May 31, 2010, 11:40 PM
Hey Panavision...I'm in the same boat as you were. Just bought the same video card and I'm going to try and flash and get it installed. I've heard that the particular card we bought runs really hot. Any experience with that? Also, are you getting the error screen upon bootup? Thanks!

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=5034920&sku=P450-4884&srkey=XFX%20Radeon%20HD%204870%201GB%20PCIe%20w/Dual%20Link%20DVI

I've been reading the guides throughly and I just want to be confident before installing everything and flashing so if someone can just confirm what I'm doing is correct, I'll feel better about this whole process!!! Thank you!

I have a 1st Gen Mac Pro running Snow Leopard 10.6.3

- First I'll shut my computer off.
- Unplug the monitors
- Remove the 7300 GT and put it in to slot 4
- Add the XFX card in to slot 1 and use the extra super drive power while using a split molex to connect 2 of the power cables that come with the graphic card
- Connect 1 monitor in the slot for (7300 GT)
- boot up, and run Zeus on OSX (Select ATI tab, Select 4800 series, Select Snow Leopard ,Browse for the ROM with [groths.se/atiflashingtool/ROMS.zip] and select the XFX ZWFL & ZWFC rom, Click Flash)
-power down
-unplug the monitor cable from slot 4 (7300 GT)
-plug both monitors into the 4870

Good to go? Looking forward to your help! :)

vizfxman
Jun 1, 2010, 12:07 AM
Hey hueybui,

I'll be curious to know how your install goes. I also have that same card from Tiger Direct and have it installed on my 1,1 Mac Pro... not without some issues... so I'll be curious to know what ROM you use and how it works, etc.

I've talked about some of my issues in this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=919589) thread.

I do get the error screen regarding the power cable when booting into OSX.

jeznav
Jun 10, 2010, 08:49 PM
Hey Everyone,

I got the exact same card as panavision; an XFX 4870 ZWFC E.0 and it works well in OSX and Win7 with Rominator's version. Cindori's version had causes artifacting in bootcamp.

I benchmarked the 3D performance on Windows 7 and its excellent. However in OSX, 3D performance is bad and laggy much lower than my 8800 GT. Though the windowing, core animations, HD playback is smooth.

So I am guessing it something to do with the drivers.

Did anyone try the QECI_1063.pkg ATI patcher and see 3D improvements?

I just clean reinstalled 10.6.3 combo update and see if it will work again.

Also, does the Power Notification disappear if you use the both 6-pin molex on the motherboard rather than using power from optical drives?


UPDATE:

I just noticed the QECI_1063.pkg ATI patcher doesn't include 4870, only 4870x2 and a bunch of others. I reinstalled it again, no improvement.

alandmar
Jun 23, 2010, 09:15 AM
Hey Everyone,

I got the exact same card as panavision; an XFX 4870 ZWFC E.0 and it works well in OSX and Win7 with Rominator's version. Cindori's version had causes artifacting in bootcamp.

I benchmarked the 3D performance on Windows 7 and its excellent. However in OSX, 3D performance is bad and laggy much lower than my 8800 GT. Though the windowing, core animations, HD playback is smooth.

So I am guessing it something to do with the drivers.

Did anyone try the QECI_1063.pkg ATI patcher and see 3D improvements?

I just clean reinstalled 10.6.3 combo update and see if it will work again.

Also, does the Power Notification disappear if you use the both 6-pin molex on the motherboard rather than using power from optical drives?


UPDATE:

I just noticed the QECI_1063.pkg ATI patcher doesn't include 4870, only 4870x2 and a bunch of others. I reinstalled it again, no improvement.

Jeznaz I have the same card you do, and pana have, and I, like you, cannot get the power warning to go away. I have a MacPro 3,1. I don't know that it would have anything to do with the rom I flashed or what, but I can't find a solution either. Could it be a flash problem? no idea. I wouldn't mind trying to flash mine with what rominator flashed pana's with, I didn't roll my own. It also will not display after boot so I have to keep my craptastic 2600 in it. Pana when you said "it goes away" you meant when you installed the kext helper? what did you do with the kext helper and what did you install?

edit: after more reading I think I found it.

audio_inside
Jul 11, 2010, 02:11 AM
Not even sure which ROM we used

From his screenshot it looks like:

ROM Revision 113-B7710C-176
EFI Driver Version 01.00.318

Or are those bogus values?

-Steve

MacVidCards
Jul 11, 2010, 03:41 AM
From his screenshot it looks like:

ROM Revision 113-B7710C-176
EFI Driver Version 01.00.318

Or are those bogus values?

-Steve

always say that

from EFI

audio_inside
Jul 11, 2010, 12:12 PM
always say that

from EFI

You guys don't roll the rev numbers when you generate new versions??

-Steve

audio_inside
Jul 14, 2010, 12:21 AM
Stock ZWFC vG.1 ROM image is posted at: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=10528659#post10528659

-Steve

johnwillsey
Jul 27, 2010, 04:17 PM
Hey Everyone,

I got the exact same card as panavision; an XFX 4870 ZWFC E.0
Also, does the Power Notification disappear if you use the both 6-pin molex on the motherboard rather than using power from optical drives?



I have the E.0 card as well in a MacPro 1,1 2006. I had to use a few 10.6.3 kexts to get things working in 10.6.4 but all is well now. With regard to the power notification, I have two power cables. It appears at boot and by the time my Finder is done loading all the start up items, the message disappears all by itself.

ben10
Aug 6, 2010, 02:29 PM
edit: moved my post to the main thread: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=10769595#post10769595

panavision
Aug 15, 2010, 12:57 PM
I have the E.0 card as well in a MacPro 1,1 2006. I had to use a few 10.6.3 kexts to get things working in 10.6.4 but all is well now. With regard to the power notification, I have two power cables. It appears at boot and by the time my Finder is done loading all the start up items, the message disappears all by itself.

What were the other 10.6.3 kext you used? (and where could I find them? :D)
Ever since I upgraded to 10.6.4 VLC is a black screen and Preview displays all jpg, bmp, png, etc as blank. Could this be related to my drivers? I'm also finding that expose lags slightly when I do All Windows or Desktop.

johnwillsey
Aug 16, 2010, 10:08 AM
What were the other 10.6.3 kext you used? (and where could I find them? :D)

The Kexts came from my previous 10.6.3 install. You could also extract them from the 10.6.3 updater from Apple.

ATIRadeonX2000.kext
ATIRadeonX2000GA.plugin
ATIRadeonX2000GLDriver.bundle
ATIRadeonX2000VADriver.bundle

panavision
Aug 16, 2010, 08:56 PM
interesting, so I can update to 10.6.4 thru the software update, and then use those kexts from 10.6.3 using kext helper right?

NEUengineer
Aug 17, 2010, 06:05 AM
I tried to flash the same card, XFX 4870 ZWFC, and it was miserable.

- Would not boot to 10.6.4, got kernal panic.
- Would boot to 10.4.11 but Zeus would not open so could not flash
- Would boot to 10.6.4 if i did not attach both power cables, but card would not show up on computer.
- Would not work with windows xp on MP using drivers that came with card. Failed to use atiflash on pc.
- Would not start up on friends pc, could not get pc to boot.

20 hours of frustration later, I sent card back to amazon and bought apple card. Apple card was plug and play.

Unless you like regularly maintain your graphics card with every update or so, it's not worth it. So far i hear it won't even work in 10.6.4 right? Spend the money on the apple card, it's worth it in the long run. Plus, the apple card is silent even when it's being maxed out by StarCraft II. The XFX 4870 ZWFC was NOT.

Andy

Cindori
Aug 17, 2010, 07:27 AM
some cards give kp in osx, you have to flash bootcd which is a 2-minute process.

but yeah, the xfx cards are having trouble in 10.6.4, but will work fine if you install 10.6.2 framebuffers (aka mapp.zip or dualdvi.zip)

johnwillsey
Aug 17, 2010, 10:45 AM
interesting, so I can update to 10.6.4 thru the software update, and then use those kexts from 10.6.3 using kext helper right?

Yes, that is what I did.