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criana
Oct 4, 2004, 10:11 PM
My PB G4 1Ghz HD has been acting up. I brought in and they said there was nothing wrong with it.

I don't particularly trust this. So I'm wondering what should I get to run backups my setup weekly?

I was thinking about an external firewire hd (small and compact), and then something like retrospect.

I'm not sure what's best for what I want to do.

Thanks for the advice :-)

Mechcozmo
Oct 4, 2004, 10:21 PM
Sounds good to me. If you had a SuperDrive I would keep some essential files backed up there, too. Just in case. (Hint: Use DVD-RWs to keep the cost down...burn em again and again and again.)

Otherwise, you sound good. Better than I do. (I don't, but I should. Keep backups that is.)

zimv20
Oct 4, 2004, 11:21 PM
i use the free Silverkeeper (http://www.lacie.com/silverkeeper/) to back up to a firewire drive. can't schedule it, but that's okay, i keep my firewire drive in a different part of the house, anyway (in case of a break-in).

i also back up a subset (of the really, really important stuff) using apple's Backup to .mac.

grapes911
Oct 4, 2004, 11:26 PM
I personally like Carbon Copy Cloner and clone my hd to a small firewire drive.
http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

Darbydoggy
Oct 5, 2004, 12:05 AM
For software, check out SuperDuper.

http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper

Harmonz
Oct 5, 2004, 08:39 AM
Please tell me what your Hard Drive "acting up" looks, does, or sounds-like?

You say you are thinking about an external HD.
LaCie and EZQuest and perhaps others, come with backup software.
I imagine if one bought one of these, the packaged backup software would be fine for basic (none server, networked or commercial) use. So perhaps your question puts the cart before the horse.

I back up by burning DVDs.
I have not used back-up software.

At a quick glance, Quickback looks basic and uncomplicated.
It was part of the package with some drives that packaged Speedtool by Intech

http://www.speedtools.com/QuickBack.shtml

Speedtools perhaps offer a good test suite to look at the hard drive.
Some hard drive acting-up problems might be OS related. I erased and zeroed the HD and started again sans HD problems.

If I got an External Hard drive with no back-up software, I have software that will sync and I can run schedules that start such software when I might like.

Having not tried that yet, I know not if it be a pain.
But $80-90 for Retrospect seems a pain when it appears a lot of what it can do, is more than I need. But I speak without experience.

criana
Oct 10, 2004, 10:16 AM
Thanks everyone for the replies. A guy from my work also recommended Carbon Copy Cloner.

I'm now on the search for a small body design for a firewire HD, I want to be able to take it along with me in my laptop bag.

My hard drive had been going tick-tick-tick-tick, and then last Saturday it started humming very loud, and each time it would like kick into this loud humming I'd get the beachball in what ever application I was in. Then it wouldn't boot up past a certain point.

So I brought it to the Apple store, they had it for 2 days, running diagnostics on it, and said it wasn't hardware related. Told me to take it back and do an Archive/Install.

I did and all seems to be ok. But I don't trust it.

cluthz
Oct 10, 2004, 11:11 AM
If you are looking for something small, look at these LaCies:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10061
OR these:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10105

A better solution is to get an iPod!
up to 40GB of portable storage!!!
iPod is very underrated as a storage solution,
well its not as fast as a standard FW-disk, but its as fast as a few years old hd,
which is still much faster than a dvd...

I've used my 1st Gen iPod to rescue a friends iMac a few years ago.
The machine could also boot from the iPod...

edit: didn't see your sig... you have a ipod... use it for backup

jared_kipe
Oct 10, 2004, 12:24 PM
if you are a .mac subscriber then you can get Backup free on the idisk. I believe it is free to a trial .mac too.

Blue Velvet
Oct 10, 2004, 12:43 PM
i use the free Silverkeeper (http://www.lacie.com/silverkeeper/) to back up to a firewire drive. can't schedule it, but that's okay, i keep my firewire drive in a different part of the house, anyway (in case of a break-in).

i also back up a subset (of the really, really important stuff) using apple's Backup to .mac.

The newer versions of Silverkeeper do permit scheduled, synchronized backups, even bootable ones (so it claims).

I use this to daily backup my boot drive to another internal at home and at work.

It comes free with any external Lacie drive and you can also download it for free.

Problem with Retrospect: You need to have Retrospect running to uncompress the archive (set) so if your boot and app drive goes down...

7on
Oct 10, 2004, 02:05 PM
oooo, silver keeper seems much better than CCC. It shows # of items copied and such. I'm letting a backup run now, so I haven't checked the outcome. I like the feedback you get while using Silver Keeper too. I have to see if it gets custom icons and hidden **** and the like. so far so good. I just hope it deletes stuff that isn't on the source.

EDIT: I am satisfied with SilverKeeper.

It gets the 7on stamp of approval.

Blue Velvet
Oct 10, 2004, 02:38 PM
oooo, silver keeper seems much better than CCC. It shows # of items copied and such. I'm letting a backup run now, so I haven't checked the outcome. I like the feedback you get while using Silver Keeper too. I have to see if it gets custom icons and hidden **** and the like. so far so good. I just hope it deletes stuff that isn't on the source.

EDIT: I am satisfied with SilverKeeper.

It gets the 7on stamp of approval.

Yes, it deletes stuff that isn't on the source.

But watch out for those preferences, make sure that any newer files that can accidentally end up in Destination, by somebody's clumsy messing :)
don't end up on source.

A bitter lesson learned...

Westside guy
Oct 10, 2004, 02:58 PM
I use my iPod for this. I've got a 3G 20gig iPod, and "only" about 6 gigs of music. This leaves plenty of room for everything that's in my home folder. The only caveat is you don't want to copy all your iTunes files a second time, since they're already on the device.

I've been using Carbon Copy Cloner, but you can also just drag-and-drop your home folder onto the iPod if you've enabled firewire drive mode - assuming, once again, that your iTunes music files aren't included. I've got my iTunes set up so it uses a folder called /Tunes, which is not in my home directory.

The advantages to this are that you don't need an extra dedicated device, plus you'll generally always have your backup copies with you even if you don't have your computer handy.

munkle
Oct 10, 2004, 03:31 PM
For software, check out SuperDuper.

http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper

I strongly second SuperDuper, it's a great app. Think Carbon Copy Cloner and then some. It's shareware but you owe it to yourself to check it out.