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mrsir2009
May 22, 2010, 11:28 PM
I reckon a 15" MacBook Air would be great. Because you sometimes want a 15" screen, but without the weight of a 15" MacBook Pro. A 15" MacBook Air would be perfect!:D



flynz4
May 23, 2010, 01:57 AM
I reckon a 15" MacBook Air would be great. Because you sometimes want a 15" screen, but without the weight of a 15" MacBook Pro. A 15" MacBook Air would be perfect!:D

I think it would likely be too heavy. I would prefer a "lighter" MBA... and for me that would be going in the wrong direction.

It is actually quite amazing how much difference the lighter weight of a MBA makes over a MBP. Once you are using one, I think it is hard for most people to go to a heavier machine.

I feel the same way about the desire for longer battery life. Personally, I am happy with the battery life in the current MBA. If the new machines are more energy efficient, I would rather have a lower weight than longer battery life.

Obviously, others would make different tradeoffs than I would. Still, I am clear to what I would want.

/Jim

AAPLaday
May 23, 2010, 02:02 AM
Id like more options in the Air screen size.Plus makes you wonder if they did go to a 15" what improvements they could make to the current one. More USB ports, larger battery, more cooling available for faster processor, second SSD drive?

TuffLuffJimmy
May 23, 2010, 02:13 AM
Id like more options in the Air screen size.Plus makes you wonder if they did go to a 15" what improvements they could make to the current one. More USB ports, larger battery, more cooling available for faster processor, second SSD drive?

Yeah! And they could make it a little thicker and put in a proper video card! Of course they should add a firewire 800 port and SD card slot some audio ports and of course a disc drive.

AAPLaday
May 23, 2010, 02:16 AM
Yeah! And they could make it a little thicker and put in a proper video card! Of course they should add a firewire 800 port and SD card slot some audio ports and of course a disc drive.

No thicker thanks, the thinness of it rocks! And a 320m would suit it fine. After all its no MBP ;)

ericFaivre
May 23, 2010, 02:21 AM
The MBA has been going in the right direction:
larger SSD, longer battery life and better graphics.
Keep it going Steve and lower the cost ;)

cleric
May 23, 2010, 02:49 AM
I have good news for all of you they make a MacBook air that is a little thicker has more ports and a 15" screen! They even throw in a SuperDrive it's called a Macbook Pro.

If you think they need to add more ports or make it bigger you've missed the point. If anything they should be experimenting with 11 and 12" displays.

AAPLaday
May 23, 2010, 02:54 AM
And they also make a bigger iPod Touch, its called an iPad. :rolleyes:

The MBP is quite a lot thicker and heavier though. There are those who would exchange unneeded power for portability

lucifiel
May 23, 2010, 07:33 AM
The only thing which ought to be kept is the thickness, I don't think that 15" will make it unbearably unportable. The extra screen real-estate could be very handy. Though I'm not sure it'd be successful enough to actually be made.

Scottsdale
May 23, 2010, 08:14 AM
I imagine a 15" MBA that has a footprint only slightly larger than the current 13.3" MBA. Imagine completely eliminating the bezel down to a thin 1/4" thick bead of aluminum. I don't understand all of the wasted space with the bezel anyways. We could get a 15" MBA that is only slightly larger than the 13.3" MBA. In addition, we could get a 13.3" MBA that basically just removes the space around the keyboard and eliminate bezel to reduce footprint of 13" MBA.

Maybe this is what SJ has in mind when he says taking the Macs to the next level? Seriously, I didn't see one bit of innovation in the new MBPs. Perhaps Apple will use the MBA to introduce change on a grand scale. There is no reason Apple cannot give us two MBAs that weigh 2.5 to 3.5 lb. that eliminate optical drives and bezels and wasted space around keyboards and tapering and just got down to the actual display, keyboard and trackpad... with just enough space for components under the keyboard. I envision an MBA that looks more like the iPad from the sides. A complete reduction in tapering to an MBA that's about 1/2" all the way across. It would eliminate wasted space in current MBAs.

I don't see any reason Apple couldn't decide to use the MBA to introduce a new line of Mac notebooks that focuses on ultraportability for all of us that want a better experience, don't want the weight of extra bezel, don't want weight and thickness of 10-hour batteries, just want a minimalistic MBA in 13" and 15" varieties. Maybe this revolution will start at WWDC? Maybe Apple does have real innovation awaiting us in new Macs? Maybe the MBP and MB got left out in the innovation department because Apple was working on a smaller footprint 13" MBA that weighs less, and a 15" MBA that looks like the current 13" MBA? We shouldn't give up on Apple just yet. Apple did introduce the v 2,1 MBA only eight months after the original disastrous MBA. Apple could learn and see that all users don't have the same desires as MBP users.

I really hope WWDC brings the "REAL" Mac transformation taking it to the "next level." It will surely be disappointing if Apple proves it hasn't innovated Mac notebooks at all for a year! There has been nothing in terms of innovation in Mac notebooks for over a year. Surely Apple hasn't truly forgotten about all of its Mac notebook users when it more than ever is deciding it's a mobility consumer electronics company. The iPad brought a new level of beyond smartphone, maybe the new MBA will bring a new level of ultraportability in the mobility future of Apple's Macs. Maybe we just need to expect more of Apple and give it until WWDC to deliver. Maybe this is the Mac of the future in an MBA that is mobility in real Mac computing?

mrsir2009
May 23, 2010, 01:23 PM
Ya see, they'd make the 15" Air NO thicker than the current one. They WOULDN'T add a superdrive either. That ruins the concept. I reckon the main things they should upgrade is the battery, the hard drive and maybe the processor. And they could increase the battery life greatly if there was no superdrive. And isn't that the point? Just make the features the Air already has greater! I'm sure they could also manage another USB port too:D

calsci
May 23, 2010, 01:53 PM
If it was 15" i would hope it would have a huge battery. It is marketed as life without wires, but the battery is not spectacular.

mrsir2009
May 23, 2010, 01:57 PM
If it was 15" i would hope it would have a huge battery. It is marketed as life without wires, but the battery is not spectacular.

Yes, the battery should be the main thing they should work of if making a bigger MacBook Air. These are the changes I reckon should happen:

1. Bigger/better battery.
2. An extra USB port.
3. More powerful processor.
4. Glass multitouch trackpad (just like MBP)
5. Bigger/Better SSD.

If all those changes were made I'd buy a 15" Model in a second!:D

flynz4
May 23, 2010, 02:26 PM
Yes, the battery should be the main thing they should work of if making a bigger MacBook Air. These are the changes I reckon should happen:

1. Bigger/better battery.
2. An extra USB port.
3. More powerful processor.
4. Glass multitouch trackpad (just like MBP)
5. Bigger/Better SSD.

If all those changes were made I'd buy a 15" Model in a second!:D

I have a different priority order:

1) Lighter
2) 4GB of memory
3) Larger SSD

I certainly do not care about more ports, superdrives, etc. I am glad that it has one USB port, because it does come in handy from time to time. Buying the superdrive was a waste for me... I never use it.

4GB of memory is just more contemporary now, and should be included.

To the extent that battery performance, or energy efficiency improves... I'll take lighter weight over longer battery life.

/Jim

mrsir2009
May 23, 2010, 02:39 PM
I have a different priority order:

1) Lighter
2) 4GB of memory
3) Larger SSD

I certainly do not care about more ports, superdrives, etc. I am glad that it has one USB port, because it does come in handy from time to time. Buying the superdrive was a waste for me... I never use it.

4GB of memory is just more contemporary now, and should be included.

To the extent that battery performance, or energy efficiency improves... I'll take lighter weight over longer battery life.

/Jim

I certainly don't care about the superdrive. I have one in my MBP and I barely ever use it. One thing though: How do you install iWork on a MacBook Air? Because on my MacBook Pro it came on a DVD :confused:

Scottsdale
May 23, 2010, 02:54 PM
I have a different priority order:

1) Lighter
2) 4GB of memory
3) Larger SSD

I certainly do not care about more ports, superdrives, etc. I am glad that it has one USB port, because it does come in handy from time to time. Buying the superdrive was a waste for me... I never use it.

4GB of memory is just more contemporary now, and should be included.

To the extent that battery performance, or energy efficiency improves... I'll take lighter weight over longer battery life.

/Jim

My priorities differ further.

I want to take a 3 lb. MBA. Maximize the performance capabilities around a 3 lb. MBA that gets a solid 4 hours between charges. I don't want ANY of the weight to go towards extra battery life as it adds weight and thickness I would rarely benefit from. I don't want a 7-hour battery at 3 lb. because it means we give up performance capabilities.

So I make priorities within the given constraints of weight and thickness. I am willing to accept an MBA that is .75" thick throughout or .5" thick but that weighs not an ounce over 3 lb. Finally, determine that it would be extremely RARE that I would ever need more than a 4-hour battery (I imagine 95% of all Mac notebook users don't need more than a 4-hour battery). Use all of these parameters to give me the ultimate performance possible from this MBA's weight, size/thickness, and required battery results.

Order of priority
1. 2+ GHz CPU (I recommend Core i7-640LM at 2.13 GHz [boost 2.93 GHz])
2. Nvidia 320m or discrete GPU (I recommend ATI 5430 at 7W)
3. 4 GB RAM or two RAM slots (I recommend BTO 8 GB RAM)
4. 256 GB SSD or 160 GB Intel SSD (I recommend Intel 160 GB SSD)
5. IPS HD Display
6. Glass Trackpad
7. USB 3.0/LightPeak
8. Intel Wireless Display Technology
9. Aluminum-capped Keyboard

This is how I would make the MBA. Take the thickness resrictions, weight limitation, and ONLY whatever it takes for a 4-hour battery. Add all of the desired priorities and give us the best MBA possible at 3 lb. with 4-hour battery.

Anyone that wants a 10-hour battery can buy an extended battery that adds another pound and another 1/2" thickness via an external bottom mount battery device. Basically like Dell or Sony or other batteries that are thicker and make entire laptop measure thicker if want extended capabilities. This would just plug into the bottom and add weight and thickness for those who actually want to bog down their MBA with a 10-hour battery when the vast majority of us would never use such an "option."

dsprimal
May 23, 2010, 03:35 PM
if they could some day make a macbook air with the power of a 15" top end mbp. i would be one happy fellow....along with millions of others :D

entatlrg
May 23, 2010, 06:59 PM
15" MBA is a GREAT idea, imo ...

Surely something that's crossed S. Jobs mind more than once ... It would give them good press too, something 'new' and amazing.

They'd sell well if they could keep it under 4lbs?

wildjohn999
May 23, 2010, 07:05 PM
No thanks on the 15" screen. All the MBA really needs is 4GB of RAM and the 320M. Everything else takes Apple's best notebook out of the lightweight/ultraportable class.

Nitrocide
May 23, 2010, 07:16 PM
I certainly don't care about the superdrive. I have one in my MBP and I barely ever use it. One thing though: How do you install iWork on a MacBook Air? Because on my MacBook Pro it came on a DVD :confused:

http://www.apple.com/iwork/download-trial/

I doubt the full version came on the disc with your MBP unless you bought iWork when you ordered the MBP? If that is the case though im sure you can fish out the installer package from the macbook pro installation dvd.

mrsir2009
May 23, 2010, 10:50 PM
http://www.apple.com/iwork/download-trial/

I doubt the full version came on the disc with your MBP unless you bought iWork when you ordered the MBP? If that is the case though im sure you can fish out the installer package from the macbook pro installation dvd.

I ordered with my MacBook Pro:D