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e-coli
Oct 8, 2004, 03:31 PM
Was President Bush literally channeling Karl Rove in his first debate with John Kerry? That's the latest rumor flooding the Internet, unleashed last week in the wake of an image caught by a television camera during the Miami debate. The image shows a large solid object between Bush's shoulder blades as he leans over the lectern and faces moderator Jim Lehrer.

Additionally, In one odd moment during the presidential debate, Bush, in response to. . . well. . . nothing, held up his hand and strongly stated, "let me finish," suggesting that there was someone else talking to him aside from the moderator as he still had plenty of time left to make his point.

See Here (http://www.isbushwired.com)

Sorry if this is in the wrong category.



yellow
Oct 8, 2004, 03:35 PM
I'm not one to defend Bush, but couldn't that be a bullet-proof vest?

stoid
Oct 8, 2004, 03:37 PM
Your link doesn't work, 503'ed, I think that this has already been brought up in a topic, and Political Forum might be better.

Otherwise, I didn't see the debate, but I downloaded it off of the iTMS/Audible section, and I remember hearing that "Let me finish". Since I was working on a drawing assignment at the time, I figured that I had just missed what he was interrupted by. It's an interesting idea, though it seems that its just going to be something that the opposition blows out of proportion, and not really too important in terms of his job as commander and chief.

e-coli
Oct 8, 2004, 03:41 PM
Your link doesn't work, 503'ed,

The server is swamped right now...try again later, if you care.

And bullet proof vests are flat on the back. If they weren't, a bullet would have something to "dig" into.

I know this because I do a lot of advertising for defense companies...random knowledge.

yellow
Oct 8, 2004, 03:42 PM
Your link doesn't work, 503'ed, I think that this has already been brought up in a topic, and Political Forum might be better.

Worked a second ago. Must be too many connections. Works now too.

rainman::|:|
Oct 8, 2004, 05:07 PM
I thought this, but had nothing to back it up... The bulge just confirms it. His eye movement was certainly not that of a man left to his own thoughts, whether he was speaking or listening to Kerry... it seemed more like, someone else was worried about the points Kerry was making, Bush was only interested in something else, unseen. Certainly he did not react appropriately when taking notes during Kerry's turns... his facial expressions weren't reactionary as one might expect.

paul

MacNut
Oct 8, 2004, 07:55 PM
Don't you think if this were true that Kerry would of said something about it by now. This doesn't make any sense. Bush may not be the best speaker but he is not stupid by any means.

Counterfit
Oct 8, 2004, 09:01 PM
but he is not stupid by any means. "Tribal sovereignty means that, it's sovereign. You're a—you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And, therefore, the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities."—Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004 :rolleyes:
Not stupid, riiight.


And I hit the winning home run in the Red Sox game tonight.

Macs R Us
Oct 8, 2004, 10:21 PM
I know Bush was realy tired at the Miami Debate, since he was helping with the people that had herican damage really late...

rainman::|:|
Oct 8, 2004, 10:32 PM
I know Bush was realy tired at the Miami Debate, since he was helping with the people that had herican damage really late...

Yeah, it's hard work being photographed in front of a disaster. Really tuckers a president out.

New York Times online is covering this subject, if anyone is interested.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/09/politics/campaign/09bulge.html (free registration required)

Ah, i'll just post it.

WASHINGTON, Oct. 8 - What was that bulge in the back of President Bush's suit jacket at the presidential debate in Miami last week?

According to rumors racing across the Internet this week, the rectangular bulge visible between Mr. Bush's shoulder blades was a radio receiver, transmitting answers from an offstage counselor into a hidden presidential earpiece. The prime suspect was Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's powerful political adviser.

When the online magazine Salon published an article about the rumors on Friday - the day of the second presidential debate, in St. Louis - the speculation reached such a pitch that White House and campaign officials found themselves inundated with calls.

First they said that pictures showing the bulge might have been doctored. But then, when the bulge turned out to be clearly visible in the television footage of the evening, they offered a different explanation.

"There was nothing under his suit jacket," said Nicolle Devenish, the Bush campaign's communications director. "It was most likely a rumpling of that portion of his suit jacket, or a wrinkle in the fabric."

Ms. Devenish could not explain why the "rumpling" was in a rectangular shape.

Campaign and White House officials said that the bulge was not from a bulletproof vest; they said Mr. Bush was not wearing one.

They said the bulge was definitely not a receiver.

So, uh, they're claiming it was a "rumple". Yeah, funny thing about those suits he wears, that they rumple in the shape of a square and wire coming off. In multiple images, in multiple positions. Of course, this was after they tried to claim the photos were doctored, but no one bought it.

glad the press is poking around in this, because it certainly seems suspicious.

paul

yellow
Oct 8, 2004, 10:37 PM
Not "noticeably" wired tonight..

MacNut
Oct 9, 2004, 12:27 AM
Wouldn't you see a wire or an earpiece in his ear, ok maybe you can't see it in his ear but you should see a wire up his neck.

MacNut
Oct 9, 2004, 12:29 AM
Can anyone post a picture of this, I would like to see what they are talking about.

Rower_CPU
Oct 9, 2004, 01:03 AM
See prior thread.