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Unspeaked
Jun 1, 2010, 10:23 AM
These photos are real and not Photoshopped.

This is of the sinkhole that just developed this past weekend:

http://www.apakistannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Guatemala-Sinkhole-and-Guatemala-Crater-600x400.jpg


And these are of a similar sinkhole that developed in the city from 2007:

http://www.worldinterestingfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/most-amazing-hole-in-the-world-guatemala-sink-hole.jpg

http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/wp-content/guatemala-sink-hole.gif

xlii
Jun 1, 2010, 10:27 AM
Just unreal... any word on how deep that sinkhole is? It's like something out of dune... a sandworm did it.

Unspeaked
Jun 1, 2010, 10:32 AM
Just unreal... any word on how deep that sinkhole is? It's like something out of dune... a sandworm did it.

I've been looking all over for a story that mentions the size (diameter and depth) but surprisingly I can't find any.

The only description I've seen is someone saying it's "larger than a city intersection." Duh.

In that third shot, I think you can just make out the bottom, but I'm not sure.

dejo
Jun 1, 2010, 10:33 AM
That third picture doesn't seem to match the location of the previous two, though.

TheNewDude
Jun 1, 2010, 10:38 AM
That third picture doesn't seem to match the location of the previous two, though.

I was just about to say that...
The 3rd one has no similarities in location as the first 2 pictures.
Plus, seems to clean on of a cut to be a natural disaster sink hole.

OllyW
Jun 1, 2010, 10:46 AM
That third picture doesn't seem to match the location of the previous two, though.

I was just about to say that...
The 3rd one has no similarities in location as the first 2 pictures.
Plus, seems to clean on of a cut to be a natural disaster sink hole.

The third picture is the one from the weekend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1283066/Guatemala-sink-hole-Tropical-storm-Agatha-blows-200ft-hole-city.html

The first two pictures are from a similar incident back in 2007.

Unspeaked
Jun 1, 2010, 10:50 AM
The third picture is the one from the weekend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1283066/Guatemala-sink-hole-Tropical-storm-Agatha-blows-200ft-hole-city.html

The first two pictures are from a similar incident back in 2007.

Woops, sorry about that. Guess I should have looked closer when I was pulling in photos. I'm going to edit the first post to reflect this info.

GFLPraxis
Jun 1, 2010, 10:50 AM
I'm familiar with sinkholes, but...I didn't realize they were so...cylindrical. It looks like it was cut. :eek:

Beware the Sarlaac.

tabasco70
Jun 1, 2010, 11:11 AM
Its a Riftworm.. The Locust are coming!

Bonch
Jun 1, 2010, 12:02 PM
The devil's butt hole. I wouldn't want to fall in.

Dagless
Jun 1, 2010, 12:15 PM
My deepest sympathies to anyone injured from this, but these really amaze me. They're so straight and they look carved. What causes them?
I did some looking around the internet this morning and found examples of them all over the world of different sizes and depths. Really interesting stuff.

Gregg2
Jun 1, 2010, 12:18 PM
...seems to clean on of a cut to be a natural disaster sink hole.
My first though also. Both the recent one and the '07 one were centered on a street. It looks like there had been an excavation there before.

RawBert
Jun 1, 2010, 12:50 PM
:eek:
Holy Dog-Sh**!!!

eawmp1
Jun 1, 2010, 12:58 PM
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/horta.jpg

notjustjay
Jun 1, 2010, 01:09 PM
I'm not sure why, but seeing pictures of sinkholes always gives me the creeps.

Antares
Jun 1, 2010, 01:24 PM
I'm not sure why, but seeing pictures of sinkholes always gives me the creeps.

Perhaps it is because of an innate uneasiness about them. There could be a sinkhole forming under your home, right now. The ground could be ready to collapse at any time and you would never know beforehand. There would be little warning. :( Sinkholes can happen almost anywhere.

citizenzen
Jun 1, 2010, 01:27 PM
In that third shot, I think you can just make out the bottom, but I'm not sure.

Increasing the contrast does bring out something...

leomac08
Jun 1, 2010, 03:12 PM
Watching this from my iPad just scared me and gave me the Hibbing jibbies:D

I'm going to el Salvador next month.....I hope the neighborhood were I live doesn't go sinking

lozanoj83
Jun 1, 2010, 04:33 PM
I believe CNN said it was around 200 ft...
Still thats pretty deep, crap. And I'm scared of heights.

Supa_Fly
Jun 1, 2010, 05:31 PM
I guess Kevin Bacon wasn't so stupid for making that movie!

Seriously this is frackn creeeeEEEEpy!

Was anyone in those when the building got swallowed up!?

btw, OllyW that third picture is the second one rotated just a different angle.

this CANNOT be real. Too even too cylindrical, too straight ... nature doesn't do that. that just isn't right.

Gregg2
Jun 2, 2010, 08:39 AM
From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20100601/lt-guatemala-gaping-sinkhole/

"Geologists said Tuesday that the circular shape suggested a cave formation underneath, but what exactly caused the sinkhole was still a mystery."

Abstract
Jun 2, 2010, 09:15 AM
Anyone else think about pissing into that thing?

snberk103
Jun 2, 2010, 10:19 AM
One report I read talked about 3 people disappearing, all residents of a house that used to be there. Tragic.

The next question is, how do you "fix" a sinkhole. Even if that pit had a bottom, that is a lot of dirt to move and dump to fill the hole. But by definition, that pit is in effect "bottomless" ... All that dirt in the hole was carried away to somewhere else.

Instead of fixing it maybe you relocate the local residents and businesses, reinforce the sides of the hole, and open up an amusement park for thrill-seekers. Bungee jumping into the void, tightrope walking, an observation deck with a glass floor. You could build all these things without having to actually build a tower.

Best of Luck to the residents and businesses in the neighbourhood. I can not imagine living near that thing. And now I'm off to check our backyard for any suspicious subsidence issues.... it's been raining a lot here lately.

dmr727
Jun 2, 2010, 10:31 AM
The next question is, how do you "fix" a sinkhole.

By pissing into it, obviously. Does Abstract have to think of everything around here?

snberk103
Jun 2, 2010, 11:06 AM
By pissing into it, obviously. Does Abstract have to think of everything around here?

I did real quick calculation.

If the sinkhole is 66m deep and 32m across (~200ft by 100ft), and if the sinkhole was completely non-porous and had a bottom, then it would need just over 53 million litres of, um, liquid - to fill it up. Guatemala has a population of a little over 13 million people, so if every single Guatemalan in the country stood by the side and, um, contributed (recognizing that half the population have more of a challenge in the aiming of their contribution) then it would take close to 4 days of contributions to fill the hole. :eek:

OK, maybe I should be thinking getting some, you know, actual work done... :D

Gregg2
Jun 2, 2010, 04:26 PM
if every single Guatemalan in the country stood by the side and, um, contributed (recognizing that half the population have more of a challenge in the aiming of their contribution)

Yeah. Very piss poor, sexist solution. Besides, you'd just create a cesspool. What's needed is solid material, which calls for skyhooks to support the contributors.

BarnacleGrim
Jun 2, 2010, 04:28 PM
I'd jump in there if only I had the linking book to Myst.

supercaliber
Jun 2, 2010, 04:35 PM
Seriously people, where did all of that dirt go? That is a LOT of dirt to just sink somewhere into the earth.

If the dirt is dropping into a giant void in the earth, what made the void? and where did the dirt that was in that void go?

I think that the hadron collider did open up a black hole after all. Its just a matter of time now, doomed.

I am freaking out just thinking that I could be sitting on to of a giant gaping void in the earth that may just swallow me into the dark abyss at any moment.

AppleMatt
Jun 2, 2010, 04:47 PM
That third picture doesn't seem to match the location of the previous two, though.

I was just about to say that...
The 3rd one has no similarities in location as the first 2 pictures.
Plus, seems to clean on of a cut to be a natural disaster sink hole.

The third picture is the one from the weekend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1283066/Guatemala-sink-hole-Tropical-storm-Agatha-blows-200ft-hole-city.html

The first two pictures are from a similar incident back in 2007.

All wrong. As stated in the original post, and is clear to see, the last two photos are of the same (old) hole - they're just taken from different angles. The first photo is of a new hole.

What I want to know is...how do they deal with it? Fill it up? Build over it? Mad

AppleMatt

renewed
Jun 2, 2010, 05:13 PM
Link (http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/06/01/giant-sinkhole-opens-in-guatemala-city/)
Link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1283066/Guatemala-sink-hole-Tropical-storm-Agatha-blows-200ft-hole-city.html)

After a weekend of heavy rain brought on by tropical storm Agatha, the Guatemalan government posted this picture of a giant sinkhole that opened without warning in the country’s capital of Guatemala City.
The sinkhole, which runs some 200 ft. deep, swallowed a three-story building and left one man missing when it opened on Sunday,

skunk
Jun 2, 2010, 05:15 PM
Seriously people, where did all of that dirt go?Probably into the void left by all that gushing crude...

Bonch
Jun 2, 2010, 06:11 PM
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/fantastic-four1.jpg

jknight8907
Jun 2, 2010, 06:15 PM
Seriously people, where did all of that dirt go? That is a LOT of dirt to just sink somewhere into the earth.

If the dirt is dropping into a giant void in the earth, what made the void? and where did the dirt that was in that void go?

I think that the hadron collider did open up a black hole after all. Its just a matter of time now, doomed.

I am freaking out just thinking that I could be sitting on to of a giant gaping void in the earth that may just swallow me into the dark abyss at any moment.

It's not like 200' of dirt fell out instantly. It was likely eroded over time, leaving a void under the surface. As the remaining thickness got thinner and thinner, it eventually collapsed.

renewed
Jun 2, 2010, 06:18 PM
It's not like 200' of dirt fell out instantly. It was likely eroded over time, leaving a void under the surface. As the remaining thickness got thinner and thinner, it eventually collapsed.

Although this is most likely the case, the collapse was instant and thus the factors before it are likely null to one who doesn't want to get swallowed by the Earth. ;)

Antares
Jun 2, 2010, 06:55 PM
It's not like 200' of dirt fell out instantly. It was likely eroded over time, leaving a void under the surface. As the remaining thickness got thinner and thinner, it eventually collapsed.

Kind of like a cavern, huh?

phillipjfry
Jun 2, 2010, 07:25 PM
To make light of a city-wide tragedy: Prison Break: Guatemala City
I think Fox has taken the realism factor too far. :rolleyes:

"If you think THAT's a big hole, you should meet my ex!"
And so on...

But seriously though, I can understand how sinkholes get created over time, but man all that missing dirt, it has to be somewhere, in a huge pile where ever the underground river connects to a river or SOMETHING :confused:
that's probably the most baffling part to me

Don't panic
Jun 3, 2010, 08:03 AM
a photo for a different perspective.
very impressive.
http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/0601-guatemala-sink-hole/7993182-1-eng-US/0601-Guatemala-sink-hole_full_380.jpg
and very scary.
apparently the city is built on loose volcanic rubble, and any major water run-off could trigger it and cause it's quick formation.
it's not like there was a cavern there for hundred of years, which eventually coolapsed: it is very rapid (and according to geoliogist it is not technically a 'sinkhole'). the last one was triggered by a broken pipe, this one by the recent massive storm.

i wonder why it seems to favor road intersections? drains on all sides? no consolidating foundations from buildings?

hotnts
Jun 8, 2010, 09:05 AM
Thought this was funny.