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5300cs

Oct 12, 2004, 11:24 PM

Howdy folks,

I just got my hands on a PB G3 Kanga :cool: ..and I was wondering what the best classic Mac OS was, in peoples opinion.

I'm not going to try and put OS X on it (I don't think.) I've had mixed results with 9.2.2 and 9.1. Any recommendations? What's the best, most stable classic Mac OS you've used after 8.0 (don't think the Kanga supports 7.5 :( )

Mechcozmo

Oct 13, 2004, 12:39 AM

Definatly 8.6. USB support, tons of software if you look enough (even iTunes version 1) and a Mozilla 1.4 variant are available. 9.x is buggy and the PowerPC version of 7.x is just too old...

I still have a computer with 8.6. That is my favorite non-X computer. :D

bousozoku

Oct 13, 2004, 01:08 AM

Mac OS 8.6 was good and stable. Some G3s work better with 9.x but you have to have the RAM to support it well.

iindigo

Oct 13, 2004, 01:34 AM

MoparShaha

Oct 13, 2004, 01:46 AM

I skipped over OS 8, so I don't know how well it did. I can tell you to stay away from System 7 though, unless you like pulling out your hair, and possibly throwing your Mac out the window. I used OS 9 for awhile on my iMac, and I thought it was very stable. Though it didn't have true protected memory, application crashes were certainly more graceful and didn't always bring the whole system down. Plus you can find many more, recent programs for OS 9.

5300cs

Oct 13, 2004, 08:58 AM

Thanks for the replies, guys :)

I wonder if different language versions make a difference. I've had trouble with OS 9.1 & 9.2 J, but the English versions have been fine :confused:

I think I'll stick with 8.6 then when my Kanga arrives. I read on LEM (Low End Mac (http://www.lowendmac.com)) some guy was using a Kanga with a USB adapter, but I could've sworn the pre-Wallstreet machines didn't support CardBus ?? :confused: ??

Anyone?

p.s. I love OS 7.5.3. Despite all the horrible things I've read about it, I never had any problems. It's also the first real exposure to Mac OS I had.

whitlock

Oct 13, 2004, 10:00 AM

Obviously I'd vote for 9.2.2, because of all of the goodies, though the perfect blend of vintage OS and stability would go to 8.6. Gotta love USB support, and the older GUI look at the same time.

oldschool

Oct 13, 2004, 08:47 PM

i agree with everyone above. I upgraded my performa to 8.6 and it ran a million times better, despite being on the lower end of the minimum requirements.

Blue Velvet

Oct 13, 2004, 08:52 PM

Yes, 8.6...

Ran far better on my old clone than any flavour of 9 no matter how many surplus extensions & control panels I turned off...

boz2004

Oct 14, 2004, 09:21 AM

OS 8.6 was much better to me than previous ones I've worked with... currently, I have 9.2 which is good, but I have had a few more issues than previously... though that could have been the different machines I was running the OS's on

mc68k

Oct 14, 2004, 02:12 PM

i really liked OS 7.6.1, for its size and speed

I'm really a System/MacOS 7 kind of guy

howard

Oct 14, 2004, 04:02 PM

anyone got any pictures of these old os's? i've actually only seen os 9 and 10

benbondu

Oct 14, 2004, 04:56 PM

My first Mac was an SE running System 6. After that was a mac II (w/13" color display!) running System 7.1. I never used 7.5 until I got a PowerMac and an internet connection but let me just say stability tanked after that. Probably due more to the internet connection than anything else but nevertheless System 7.1 still has the image of perfection in my eye.

I remember not liking OS 8 when it came out. That was the start of the MacOS getting really bloated. I had a dual boot with 8.1 and 7.6 and 8.1 took twice the memory and more than twice the boot time. 7.6 was incredibly fast to boot on a PPC. I remember starting my computer in front of my windows using friend and hearing him say "that's it?"

On a side note, was anyone else disappointed when 7.6 debuted and they started calling it MacOS 7.6 instead of System 7? One of the dark effects of the clones in my opinion. (although I did own a clone)

Macs R Us

Oct 14, 2004, 06:40 PM

Yep, I have a Kanga and it runs OS 10.2... Its a easy hack... Far as older OS's that are good Lisa Office System 7/7 is good:)... But there all good...

pianojoe

Oct 14, 2004, 07:19 PM

8.6

5300cs

Oct 15, 2004, 06:05 AM

8.6

Umm, what are you trying to say here? You're being too subtle... :D

Mc68k I like the way you think. I'm an old 7 person too: 7.5.3 :)

5300cs

Oct 16, 2004, 08:20 AM

Well, my Kanga came today :)
This baby is purring along nice and smooth. I can't believe it's a G3 processor inside, though it speeds along OS 9 real nice. It came with OS 9.1J installed by the previous owner, and it's running great now so I'm not going to cause any problems :D

The box for this bad-boy is really cool :cool:

5300cs

Oct 16, 2004, 08:41 AM

Box front
http://homepage.mac.com/time_pilot/images/box_front.jpg

Box back
http://homepage.mac.com/time_pilot/images/box_back.jpg

Mechcozmo

Oct 16, 2004, 02:42 PM

Oooooh. Pretty. I never had much experience with OS 9, but from what I heard and from my limited use I really didn't like it.

remember not liking OS 8 when it came out. That was the start of the MacOS getting really bloated. I had a dual boot with 8.1 and 7.6 and 8.1 took twice the memory and more than twice the boot time. 7.6 was incredibly fast to boot on a PPC. I remember starting my computer in front of my windows using friend and hearing him say "that's it?"

Funny, as I remember starting my computer and my friend saying "Wow, that is really fast..." OS 8 is the only OS where I never had a speed problem. Even when I stopped using it, it still felt fast. And if I use it today, windows pop up quickly, programs start up pretty fast, and the only delays I have are due to the low memory amount.

racepres

Oct 17, 2004, 12:16 AM

Dr. No

Oct 17, 2004, 02:03 AM

8.6 was a great OS. Plus, I believe it was the first to offer Carbon app support.
When it came out, it was superior to Windows 98.

OS 9 was created only to help people move to OS X (and support new machines), and I don't think Apple put the time/resources into it to make it great. A lot of people stuck with 8.6.

*Make sure you install the OS 8.6 Font Manager Update*
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60444

You can also update your QuickTime.

System 7.1 was also excellent, but it only runs on vintage 68k machines.

Macs R Us

Oct 17, 2004, 03:18 AM

Well you could always sell it to me for $200... :) ... Mine broke the video will not show up... And it was my first real Porable Mac :rolleyes:...

Mechcozmo

Oct 17, 2004, 04:03 AM

:rolleyes: Mechcozmo.... You note that 8.6 can run mozilla 1.4. Could you LMK where ya found it cause I'm using 1.2.1 and like it alot, If 1.4 resolves some worthwhile issues I want it.. Thanks in advance...

On the mozilla website there are some links to other version of mozilla. It is actually 1.4 modified to run on 8.6, but it works really good. I was able to instal shock-wave and everything-- it is recognized as Mozilla and even has the splash screen. I'll find the link...

Mozilla (http://wamcom.org/latest-131/)

5300cs

Oct 17, 2004, 05:00 AM

I just found this little gem, too. Someone patched the iTunes installer (ver 1) so that it can install on OS 8.6. I just might give it a try :)

Link here: http://www.wormintheapple.gr/downloads/

yamabushi

Oct 17, 2004, 05:10 AM

I wonder if different language versions make a difference. I've had trouble with OS 9.1 & 9.2 J, but the English versions have been fine :confused:

I have had various problems with the Japanese versions of OS 8.1, 8.5, 8.6, 9.1, and 9.2 that did not occur with identical computers using the US English versions of the same operating systems. Most problems seemed to be the result of application conflicts. Removing the extensions used by the offending application would often cure the instability but could of course make the application unusable. Kotoeri, the Japanese input utility, is one of the players in most of these conflicts. There are various applications can cause a conflict with Kotoeri. Microsoft applications seem to create conflicts most often but software from other companies are to blame as well.

Similar conflicts were present in OS 9.1 and 9.2 less often but seemed actually easier to fix in 8.6. This is probably due to the attempt to eliminate extension conflicts in OS 9 that wasn't entirely successful.

Mechcozmo

Oct 17, 2004, 10:16 AM

I just found this little gem, too. Someone patched the iTunes installer (ver 1) so that it can install on OS 8.6. I just might give it a try :)

Link here: http://www.wormintheapple.gr/downloads/

I saw that too, but didn't try it. Not that much room on the Hard Drive, and it is for a guest computer...not a media player. And there is always Quicktime but the newest version fails to instal! :eek:

celaurie

Oct 17, 2004, 10:47 AM

racepres

Oct 17, 2004, 01:15 PM

Mechcozmo: Thanks for the info I will fool w/ it while I watch the game today..5300cs is itunes useable for stuff like my son's yepp mp3?? (obviously I aint into tunes!! More on the subject.. Just the other day I brought home a 8600 ppc ( couldn't resist the price w/ great multiscan monitor, zip, cdrw, and 256MB RAM). it had OS 9.1 in it and I thought it was gonna be way cool!! OOps .. I hate it, maybe i'm just too old to understand it all but in this case OS 8.6 is for me. Faster, easier, smaller... Spent a bit of time starting over last nite and now I'm a very happy (8.6) guy.. P.S. I also started w/6.0 and an SE, then a couple performas w/ 7.5.3 which I still have and like em but I'm gonna try to put 8.1 on one of em this winter just to experiment.. Later, the game's on.. :cool: :cool:

5300cs

Oct 17, 2004, 09:55 PM

In my experience (notice the my) these have been the best OSes for me in terms of stability:

6.0.8
7.1
7.5.3 and 7.5.5
8.1
8.6

And that's about it. I've had the different 9.Xs all flake out on me for one reason or another. I haven't used 7.6 enough to really comment on it.
Almost everyone I've ever met has had something bad to say about OS 7 (the different variants) but as I said before, I never had any problems. I know a lot of old System 6 people didn't like 7 when it first hit the scene because it was built with C (or C++?) as opposed to Assembly, thus making it slower.

Macs R Us > How does 10.2 run on a Kanga? Slow I'd imagine :confused: :(

Jimong5

Oct 17, 2004, 10:30 PM

Macs R Us > How does 10.2 run on a Kanga? Slow I'd imagine :confused: :(

OSX isnt even supported on a kanga, and thats one reason I personally would not buy one. I have a Pismo, which is newer and more expensive, but a very capable OSX mac. G3s still have a lot of life for basic things. even so, the highest a kanga can run is 9.1.

racepres

Oct 17, 2004, 11:15 PM

And my dog might be littler than your dog but my dad can whip your dad!!!
Pismo's are way cool but still g3's ... Why not run whatever ya can??? Cause again back on subject 8.6 is the bomb if ya aint got ... can't use... X. Wonder how 8.6 performs on a pismo???:eek:

5300cs

Oct 18, 2004, 05:04 AM

OSX isnt even supported on a kanga, and thats one reason I personally would not buy one.... even so, the highest a kanga can run is 9.1.

Ah! Not so :) With XPostFacto, one can install OS X. I wouldn't wantto, but it can be done. It's not officially supported by Apple though, so if you do do it, you're on your own.

Macs R Us

Oct 18, 2004, 05:22 AM

Macs R Us > How does 10.2 run on a Kanga? Slow I'd imagine :confused: :(

Well before mine broke it had 10.2... Now OS 10.1 was an easy hack, but the 10.2 needed about 1.32 Hours of my time.... But it worked (not the laptop now :rolleyes: )... It can be done... Mine had 160mb Ram and the 5gig so with out the 160 or 144 [B]DON't[B/] do it... Thats all I know...

ThomasJefferson

Oct 18, 2004, 11:40 AM

Proudly cuizing along using 7.5.3 on my Motorola Starmax.
May upgrade to 7.6 someday, but I don't want to rush things.

And it still wont die...

Jimong5

Oct 18, 2004, 03:06 PM

Ah! Not so :) With XPostFacto, one can install OS X. I wouldn't wantto, but it can be done. It's not officially supported by Apple though, so if you do do it, you're on your own.
I know it could be done, but since a bondi runs X about as fast as a 3 legged cat on valum, It probably woulnt be any better on a slower portable

And my dog might be littler than your dog but my dad can whip your dad!!!
Pismo's are way cool but still g3's ... Why not run whatever ya can??? Cause again back on subject 8.6 is the bomb if ya aint got ... can't use... X. Wonder how 8.6 performs on a pismo???:eek:

well, I have a dual G4 tower too, but thats not really relevant. in terms of old G3s, I was just saying there were better models he could have gotten I guess, and saying what I personally would do. and a pismo wouldn't run 8.6, because it shipped with 9.0.2. thats about all i know mac wise, as that was my earliest mac OS, and had bad times on school computers running OS 8. but those are school computers.

FelixDerKater

Oct 18, 2004, 04:17 PM

7.1, 7.5.3, and 8.1 were all the best up to their time.

racepres

Oct 18, 2004, 08:39 PM

:rolleyes: I am definitely gonna have a Pismo very soon... and since alot of work has been done to hack OS9.x and OSX onto old stuff I am determined to try OS8.6 on the pismo.Why ???? cause ??? Well if a Kanga runs well w/ 9 but slow w/ X then perhaps a machine that runs good w X , should fly w/ 8.6!!! :eek: And 8.6 has everything I need right now anyway, Heck it has stuff old guys like me can't pronounce let alone use!!! Course I gotta get the Pismo first.... Hhhhhhhmmmmmmm. :( Maybe I'll have to stick to trying to put 8.1 on the performa and powerbook 160!!!! LOL... Later MV

macfreek57

Oct 18, 2004, 10:22 PM

I just found this little gem, too. Someone patched the iTunes installer (ver 1) so that it can install on OS 8.6. I just might give it a try :)

Link here: http://www.wormintheapple.gr/downloads/

i've used that on my grandfather's 233 iMac with 8.6 and it worked fine

by the way, sys 7.6.5 rocks my socks! i love that old piece of crap! a full install was like less than 400 Mb! and it had great operability.

but seriously, if you're going to use 9.x then i would definitely go through all those dumb extensions (and some CP's) to get some processor efficiency. especially the millions of video drivers. just find the one you have and disable the rest.
also, sherlock 1 and 2 SUCKED! i'd delete it and see if i couldn't get a better search app off of versiontracker.com.

Mechcozmo

Oct 18, 2004, 11:58 PM

i've used that on my grandfather's 233 iMac with 8.6 and it worked fine

by the way, sys 7.6.5 rocks my socks! i love that old piece of crap! a full install was like less than 400 Mb! and it had great operability.

I emulate on my PowerBook WinXP (boo!), but that emulates 7.5.5 via Basilisk II. Here is a screen shot.
http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18187&stc=1

System 7.x.x was fine, but OS 8 was where I really learned a lot of the stuff I know now about Macs...

5300cs

Oct 19, 2004, 08:04 AM

Nice! Gotta love cross-platform emulation :)

My original iBook had 9.2.2 on it, which wasn't the most stable. I downgraded to 9.1 which was a little bit better, but not much. One day it froze on me about 3 times in 5 minutes, so I install 10.1. Haven't had any problems since.

I agree, 9.x kinda blows (well, blew.)

Lord Blackadder

Oct 19, 2004, 02:47 PM

My old Quadra 610 had OS 7.1, which I still think was the fastest and most stable OS in its own time that Apple has made. 7.6 runs great on first-gen PowerMacs like my 6100/66. My Rev. C (G3 266) iMac was happiest with OS 8.6, so I'd bet that you should try that.

bousozoku

Oct 19, 2004, 03:48 PM

7.1, 7.5.3, and 8.1 were all the best up to their time.

I'm surprised to hear that anyone liked 7.5.3 and there are two of you? For me, it was the biggest pain of all. 7.5.5 was somewhat stable but it wasn't until 7.6.x that things actually started to work. 8.x was great, except for speed, especially with the addition of strong Carbon support with 8.6.

Mechcozmo

Oct 19, 2004, 06:05 PM

8.x was great, except for speed, especially with the addition of strong Carbon support with 8.6.

What were the minimum requirements for OS 8 and System 7?

mms

Oct 19, 2004, 11:41 PM

Ah, the Kanga. I remember those.

IIRC the first PowerBook to support Panther is the Lombard, which came after the entire Wall Street series, which came after the original G3 PowerBook (the Kanga). I don't think any of the older versions of OS X were supported either.

Another vote for 8.6, by the way. Still have a PowerMac 6400/180 running it and it works just fine.

bousozoku

Oct 20, 2004, 12:20 AM

What were the minimum requirements for OS 8 and System 7?

For Mac OS 8.0 any 68030 or greater, I believe and Mac OS 8.1, any 68040 or greater.

I believe that System 7 ran on all systems from the Macintosh Plus or greater, but not the 128K or 512K systems.

I don't mind being wrong, but that is what I remember. I can pull the documentation on Mac OS 8. It should be in the other room.

Mechcozmo

Oct 20, 2004, 12:32 AM

For Mac OS 8.0 any 68030 or greater, I believe and Mac OS 8.1, any 68040 or greater.

I believe that System 7 ran on all systems from the Macintosh Plus or greater, but not the 128K or 512K systems.

I don't mind being wrong, but that is what I remember. I can pull the documentation on Mac OS 8. It should be in the other room.

Thats fine. I wanted to have a general idea on where they stood, for comparing my computer to it (225 PowerTower Pro). Amazingly enough, 15 minutes on google and I couldn't find it...

bousozoku

Oct 20, 2004, 02:21 AM

Thats fine. I wanted to have a general idea on where they stood, for comparing my computer to it (225 PowerTower Pro). Amazingly enough, 15 minutes on google and I couldn't find it...

I have a 225 MHz 604e (probably the same card) in my PowerCenter and if you're asking what runs well on it, Mac OS 8.6 ran much better than 9.x. The minimum for a (PCI) PowerPC machine was 7.5.2 and it was extremely rough, so I would not suggest anything earlier than 7.6.1.

Anacondan

Oct 20, 2004, 05:03 AM

Personally I loved Mac OS 8.1... I ran it on a Performa 6400/200, 200 Mhz and it was actually enjoyable - Fast, simple, and very stable for a pre-X Mac OS. I'd suggest that. If you really need app compatiblity, put 8.6 on it.

I vote for 8.1 as well as that was the sys I used for the last few years. Of course I don't have an opinion on any later systems as I jumped them to 10.3. Wow..talk about time travel. :) Did you know this thing comes with a terminal? I'm still learning what it does, but it seems to be doing something :eek:

5300cs

Oct 20, 2004, 05:52 AM

That's cool :) I love hearing stories about people who've used the same platform (notebook, OS, organizer) for such a long time. It reminds me how I can't do the same :rolleyes:

8.1 to 10.3 is a big jump, but I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

5300cs

Oct 20, 2004, 08:44 AM

I emulate on my PowerBook WinXP...

Now that I look at that closer, that looks painful. You're a brave person to emu XP on a G4. Even with the new VPC on my G5 it's bad.

Am installing 8.6 on my Kanga now...

Mechcozmo

Oct 20, 2004, 08:43 PM

Now that I look at that closer, that looks painful. You're a brave person to emu XP on a G4. Even with the new VPC on my G5 it's bad.

VPC 6.1, BTW. I have 768MB of RAM, but I still generate tens of thousands of pageouts whenever I load WinXP. Quite rare, but sometime necessary...and when I emulate System 7.5.5 you should see the pageouts a second. I might try that again soon just to post it for you. Oh, and don't try this unless you quit everything else...otherwise, you have never ever seen a PowerBook run so slow.

Sidenote: I never pageout...I can count on one hand the number of times I have accumulated more than 3 pageouts.

5300cs

Oct 23, 2004, 06:17 AM

Ugh, my Kanga is now totally on the fritz :mad: :(

I tried installing 8.0, 8.5 9.0, 9.1 and 9.2 and NONE of them seem to work. I cannot get anything installed properly. I get error messages like 'could not copy xxxxx file' and so on. When I do get it finally installed (I installed 8.0 from the original CD it came with) it takes about 5 minutes to boot, then dies with a error message asking to restart. :confused: Did that 3-4 times and a different message each time.

WTF is going on ??????? :mad:

Macs R Us

Oct 25, 2004, 05:56 AM

kettle

Oct 25, 2004, 06:28 AM

I found that the last good feeling was 9.0.4, after that, 9.1-9.2.2, it seemed to feel floaty, as if too many changes had been made to allow it to work within 10.0.

I think it depends on what machine you're running on. 9.0.4 is my favourite on a 450 Sawtooth.

redbaron

Oct 25, 2004, 03:30 PM

I found my PowerMac 4400/200 in a trash pile. It had OS 9.0 installed, which was incredibly slow on it, and chewed up a fairly large proportion of its 32mb RAM. I later installed 8.6 on it, and am truly amazed as to how much better it performs. I also run 8.6 on my iMac 233, which is great too. I've still got 7.1 (with original install disks) on my Classic II, and 6.0 on my SE. 6.0 is nice, but the fact that it hardly runs anything is a bit of a problem. At least on 7.1 you can run the odd reasonably recent bit of software.

racepres

Oct 25, 2004, 06:20 PM

5300cs
I had something like that on a 1400 once ... if you have access to another "book" install an OS on a pcmcia hdd and put it in yer kanga ( a zip will work also) and see if it will boot fm that!! (should have no probs booting and running on either) If it will I would be very concerned abt my hdd, if not??? I aint had that one but would start by taking out ram just in case.. Ther is alot of other stuff to think abt but I like to start out eliminating the simple stuff :confused:

5300cs

Oct 25, 2004, 07:14 PM

I told the seller that it's kaput, and he said send it back to him. Gonna make it his problem now.

What I go throught for the sake of nostalgia :rolleyes:

Mechcozmo

Oct 25, 2004, 08:30 PM

5300cs...what DO you use that Xserve in you house for?

And sorry about your Kanga. Too bad.

Littleodie914

Oct 25, 2004, 09:08 PM

I've actually had very good experiences with OS 9.2.2. I'm running that on my old clamshell, and it runs like a dream. Lots of people seem to have crashes or other types of bugs, but I haven't had one. I highly recommend at least 9.1 or above, since there wasn't that big of a difference as far as the general layout goes upon transitioning from OS 8 to OS 9. Most classing programs require 9.1 or above though, so it might be a good idea to upgrade just for compatibility reasons. Have fun! :cool:

Macs R Us

Oct 26, 2004, 06:47 AM

5300cs...what DO you use that Xserve in you house for?

And sorry about your Kanga. Too bad.

Well I have 8 Rackmount Units in my Home a G4, 24 Port 10/100/1000 Hub, Router/Firewall, Surge Protecter, CRT Rackmount, a Keyboard pull out Racmount.... Well I have 18 Computers that get mainily used on our network, plus printers... Well I think "5300cs" should get a 5300ce :D ... But at any rate we all do some crazy stuff for "Apple Collecables" but thats life :rolleyes: ...

Post Credit:
http://applecollectables.com/
---------------- Just so I don't Sue my self :cool: ---------------

AmigoMac

Oct 26, 2004, 07:50 AM

Wow, it's pretty nice to read from the guys who come from the OS 7 days... I would like to try 8.6 right now... I feel a bit empty now because I didn't enjoy those days...

belair

Oct 26, 2004, 08:03 AM

I have to agree with what most of the people here think. 8.6 was very good and very stable. When my G3 was runnung 8.6 it almost never crashed. As soon as I updated it to 9.1 and later to 9.2 it started getting way more unstable.

I joined OS X with Jaguar (running on my G3 and it was good but it slowed the machine down altough it had 640 MB of RAM, used to be a lot!)
I am now runiing Panther on a G5 with 1.5 ghz of RAM and I could not be more happy.

5300cs

Oct 26, 2004, 09:16 AM

5300cs...what DO you use that Xserve in you house for?

And sorry about your Kanga. Too bad.

Haha :D For a while it was a mail/web/ftp/ssh server. Now it's sitting quietly doing nothing but looking pretty. I thought about selling it, but then realized I'd probably never get the chance to buy one again so I'm keeping it.

Sending off my Kanga tomorrow night. If it can't be fixed, the guy's gonna gimme my ¥¥¥ back.

Macs R Us

Oct 26, 2004, 05:49 PM

Haha :D For a while it was a mail/web/ftp/ssh server. Now it's sitting quietly doing nothing but looking pretty...

Well my Apple Network Server 700 Looks pretty do, but well seems if your not using it its waste, right?... You can donate it to my "I want that" fund :rolleyes: :D ... Or sell it on eBay the real good idea...

5300cs

Nov 2, 2004, 06:59 PM

And sorry about your Kanga. Too bad.

Just got an email from the seller. He too, said that the drive was fricked. He tossed in a 6gig drive and put 8.6 on it. Said he send it off tomorrow :)

Mechcozmo

Nov 2, 2004, 08:14 PM

Just got an email from the seller. He too, said that the drive was fricked. He tossed in a 6gig drive and put 8.6 on it. Said he send it off tomorrow :)

Kewl. Where do you go around buying an Xserve whilst in Japan? Those things are rather expensive...

And I just installed Win98 in VPC today. I'm planning on emulating all four OS's at once, taking a screen shot, and then taking a screen shot of my pageouts. Hehe. I like to torture myself. At least I'm not doing this on my iMac.

5300cs

Nov 2, 2004, 08:52 PM

Kewl. Where do you go around buying an Xserve whilst in Japan? Those things are rather expensive...

Full price they are, yeah. I got it at a store called SoftMap in Akihabara, Tokyo. I was there for my wife's friend's wedding and had some free time. I went to Akihabara (you have to when you're in Tokyo or you're not a real computer person) and went to SoftMap. Upstairs on the 2nd floor they had 6 Xserves: 3 1Ghz models & 3 1.33 Ghz models. The 1Ghz model I got was about $1000, the 1.33 was $2000. How could I pass up an opportunity like that?

It's really loud and really heavy, but I don't regret buying it at all. Right now it sits in its box waiting until I get a rack or head back to the States.

Mechcozmo

Nov 3, 2004, 01:41 AM

Full price they are, yeah. I got it at a store called SoftMap in Akihabara, Tokyo. I was there for my wife's friend's wedding and had some free time. I went to Akihabara (you have to when you're in Tokyo or you're not a real computer person) and went to SoftMap. Upstairs on the 2nd floor they had 6 Xserves: 3 1Ghz models & 3 1.33 Ghz models. The 1Ghz model I got was about $1000, the 1.33 was $2000. How could I pass up an opportunity like that?

It's really loud and really heavy, but I don't regret buying it at all. Right now it sits in its box waiting until I get a rack or head back to the States.

Nice. That is cheap for just about any dual G4 mac, not to mention a server...

On a different note, Win 98 is being a pain to update and everything. My first install did so without drivers :eek: So I needed to reinstall, and am now updating. Sigh. But the good side is that is is running faster than the Pentium III that I used to use years ago. :)

Macmaniac

Nov 4, 2004, 09:43 PM

Mechcozmo

Nov 5, 2004, 12:45 AM

System 7.5, I ran off 7.5 on my Performa for 4 years and it only gave me a few problems. Maybe I should make an 8.5 machine with iTunes 1. And some other cool vintage stuff. Can you download iTunes 1 from anywhere?

You need 8.6 and a hacked installer for iTunes v.1. That website had all the info you need. (There was, BTW, a link to a website a page back or so that had the info to do that.)