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Chupa Chupa
Jun 6, 2010, 07:12 AM
It's more of a wake I suppose than a celebration. Coming is that day you have to yell at your kids to turn off the Internet b/c you don't own the ISP, and you will remember this day, the day when how we pay for data changed forever.

Anyway, I begrudgingly turned on the 3G spigot today. So the question is, how many here also turned on unlimited 3G SPECIFICALLY to grandfather into the unlimited plan?



Zazoh
Jun 6, 2010, 07:17 AM
I would like to know too, what are most people using in the way of usage? Just checked and the wife and I are about 300 mb a month on the iPhones. We don't stream movies but use Internet what would seem to be a lot.

tigres
Jun 6, 2010, 07:26 AM
That's a good question Chupa. I also wondered how many will sign up, turn off wifi, and just hammer away at that data over spite.

I read somewhere yesterday that some were intending to do just that.

Safari King
Jun 6, 2010, 07:51 AM
It's more of a wake I suppose than a celebration. Coming is that day you have to yell at your kids to turn off the Internet b/c you don't own the ISP, and you will remember this day, the day when how we pay for data changed forever.

Anyway, I begrudgingly turned on the 3G spigot today. So the question is, how many here also turned on unlimited 3G SPECIFICALLY to grandfather into the unlimited plan?

My job pays for the unlimited service, so I don't have much of a gripe, but if I were paying for it, I would have activated unlimited anyway, instead of accepting the 2G limit. My plan is to change my iPhone data plan to a lower level and use the iPad for the bulk of data, when not using my MacBook Pro. I also plan to JB the iPad so that I can tether the MBP off of the iPad when needed, although it wont be that often.

$30 is piece of mind that I don't have to worry about overage charges...

Hitch08
Jun 6, 2010, 08:07 AM
I voted yes although my situation is a bit off. I just turned 3G on last weekend and planned to only use it for the month. Yesterday, I checked to make sure I am on auto renew, so that I don't cancel. Without this change, I would be in cancel at end mode.

JonMPLS
Jun 6, 2010, 09:28 AM
While I have an unlimited plan, I really don't think I ever would have noticed based on my usage and wifi availability. Might "downgrade" to save a few bucks along the line.

master-ceo
Jun 6, 2010, 09:31 AM
lol. I was thinking. After 2 million iPads sold. :apple: and At&t can afford to play with yalls feelings.

I bet if they only sold 500k the offer would still stand. Damn Crooks. :cool:

BERRYP186
Jun 6, 2010, 09:33 AM
My iPad came in yesterday just endear the gun. Rushed home and turned on the unlimited yea baby.

sushi
Jun 6, 2010, 09:36 AM
If I lived in the states, I would get the unlimited plan before it expired.

However, with the change in plans, in the future when I return I would be very tempted to get the Verizon MiFi instead. Then again, that is another device to carry and feed (recharge) so maybe an iPad 3G would be a better solution.

jb1280
Jun 6, 2010, 09:41 AM
No, I would rarely go over 2GB in a month, and a reason for doing the 3G was to avoid a contract. Grandfathering in unlimited is the equivalent of a de facto contract, and me being spiteful isn't worth the money.

Zazoh
Jun 6, 2010, 09:55 AM
Grandfathering in unlimited is the equivalent of a de facto contract, and me being spiteful isn't worth the money.

Great new viewpoint. Many were excited about month to month, locking in when less than 2% went over 2 Gb isn't prudent for anyone but the 2%.

The viral marketing campaigns by companies these days is nothing short of genius.

jb1280
Jun 6, 2010, 10:21 AM
If I lived in the states, I would get the unlimited plan before it expired.

However, with the change in plans, in the future when I return I would be very tempted to get the Verizon MiFi instead. Then again, that is another device to carry and feed (recharge) so maybe an iPad 3G would be a better solution.

I have been thinking about a MiFi if I am at a point where I spend more than 10 months in the States per year, but I can't get the math to work out right.

Phone with data plan and tethering fee + iPad prepaid is quite a bit less than Phone with data plan + MiFi contract.

T4R06
Jun 6, 2010, 10:55 AM
That's a good question Chupa. I also wondered how many will sign up, turn off wifi, and just hammer away at that data over spite.

I read somewhere yesterday that some were intending to do just that.

thats me.. yes, in 2 days i accumulated less than 500mb
so granfathered is FTW

shadygrove
Jun 6, 2010, 11:04 AM
I actually think the new plans will save me money in the long run. The one or two times I might go over won't total more than savings. Most of my time is around Wifi. That said... If I had my iPad (still on the list of things to get) I would get the unlimited just for *****. I am getting a the new iPhone (will be my first) so I don't really have the option of getting the new the hardware plus the grandfather plan. But, I actually think it is for the best in my situation, as it will save me money (in theory anyway).

SailorMike
Jun 6, 2010, 11:25 AM
I'm another one forced to spend $30 every month when I only need it on the odd month for travel.

And it's also very annoying that as of Sunday morning, Apple is STILL advertising that I can start and stop unlimited 3G without penalty. That's false advertising.

So does that mean that now Apple is evil? My mother warned me about hanging around with the wrong crowd (AT&T)

ciaran00
Jun 6, 2010, 11:56 AM
I am waiting for consumer outrage to change the way AT&T is going.

You may say I'm a dreamer.

But I'm not the only one :)

AppleNewton
Jun 6, 2010, 12:06 PM
I got it last night, i was hoping to hold off a few weeks thoughg as im heading on a trip for a few weeks without a notebook and could see using more than 2gb, esp with using some apps streaming data/media and no wifi.
So its a just in case I extend my stay it seemed worth it.

barkomatic
Jun 6, 2010, 12:29 PM
I got the unlimited plan yesterday. I'm probably going to keep it for a few months to cover some traveling I'm doing this summer. It's nice to not have to worry about going over.

DotCom2
Jun 6, 2010, 12:40 PM
I can't!
I haven't even received mine iPad 3G yet to do so!
I can't believe AT&T did this.
What a PR fiasco.
Like AT&T needs another black eye. SHEESH!

ckr4282
Jun 6, 2010, 12:48 PM
Okay, so here's the shipping status on my iPad. When it's delivered and I turn it on for the first time, will I be given the option to go with the unlimited plan? It's shipping to Sacramento, CA by the way.

Safari King
Jun 6, 2010, 12:48 PM
lol. I was thinking. After 2 million iPads sold. :apple: and At&t can afford to play with yalls feelings.

I bet if they only sold 500k the offer would still stand. Damn Crooks. :cool:

nobody is playing with my feelings.....

phpmaven
Jun 6, 2010, 01:40 PM
I can't!
I haven't even received mine iPad 3G yet to do so!
I can't believe AT&T did this.
What a PR fiasco.
Like AT&T needs another black eye. SHEESH!

The latest info from AT&T indicates that as long as you purchased it before 6/7, you can get the unlimited data plan. However, unless you are among the 2% data hog figure, you will save money going with a lesser plan.

brentsg
Jun 6, 2010, 01:43 PM
I'm another one forced to spend $30 every month when I only need it on the odd month for travel.


If you only needed for the odd month of travel, why not save the money and just pay the additional for those odd months?

stealthman1
Jun 6, 2010, 02:02 PM
I jumped to the unlimited so I can watch the Tour de France at work in July. After that we'll see. I would not turn WiFi off just to hammer 3g as while my 3g service is decent here (close to 2mbps normally), it isn't WiFi.

Chimera-se
Jun 6, 2010, 07:18 PM
I don't think I will. I haven't even used the 3G service since buying the iPad on launch day. However, stealthman1, how will you watch the TdF on your iPad? I might pay for a couple months just for this capability. Vive la Tour! :D

HiFiGuy528
Jun 6, 2010, 07:24 PM
I upgraded because you don't know what the future brings. I figure that I can always downgrade if I REALLY don't need it. If you don't upgrade now, you are stuck.

I turned off wifi on the iPad so I am using all of what I am paying for.

WardC
Jun 6, 2010, 07:34 PM
I don't think I will. I haven't even used the 3G service since buying the iPad on launch day.

I am just like you. I have had my iPad exactly 30 days now and I still haven't activated the 3G service (yes it's Sunday 6/6). So...I am really on the wire about whether to spend $30 a month for a service that I will probably not really get to use very much...I have WiFi at home and at work, and I am not really on the go that much. But if I take a trip and want to download an HD movie from the iTunes store or something like that, it's like 5.5GB. Well, I guess I will just have to download it before the trip then. Only use the 3G for light web surfing and stuff. I might just get the 250MB plan and see how that goes. I can always upgrade to 2GB later if I need to, and I seriously doubt I will. I use WiFi for practically everything on the iPad, well everything right now....(since I haven't signed up for 3G service yet). We will see...

Zazoh
Jun 6, 2010, 07:46 PM
I am just like you. I have had my iPad exactly 30 days now and I still haven't activated the 3G service (yes it's Sunday 6/6). So...I am really on the wire about whether to spend $30 a month for a service that I will probably not really get to use very much...

And AT&T is banking on many less prudent who are rushing to lock. I see a boardroom of execs high-fiving right now.

Chimera-se
Jun 6, 2010, 07:47 PM
Yeah, those are my thoughts exactly WardC. I bought the 3G version (and what a long month to wait for it!) for the "just incase" scenario. I'm leaning toward signing up tonight, just to cover all my bases. And really, if I don't like it, after a couple months, I'll drop it. No big sacrifice, you know? And, DjAmTraX, that's a great idea! I never would of thought about turning off the wifi on it while I'm at home. It might just be worth the expense for that reason alone, and of course to get a good laugh! Haha! :D

HiFiGuy528
Jun 6, 2010, 08:31 PM
I like streaming music in the car.

Chupa Chupa
Jun 6, 2010, 08:45 PM
I turned off wifi on the iPad so I am using all of what I am paying for.

Don't forget 3G kills the battery faster than WiFi & also usually slower.

And AT&T is banking on many less prudent who are rushing to lock. I see a boardroom of execs high-fiving right now.

Not sure I follow your logic. ATT changed the plan so abruptly b/c iPad owners were using more data than anticipated. Now they have even more iPad owners using even more data. I doubt they are happy about that. If they were making money on the $30 plan they would not have dumped it.

Chimera-se
Jun 6, 2010, 08:57 PM
Well call me "less prudent" then (!?!?). I just signed up and am on 3G right now...you're right chupa it is slower for sure, but as to the batt I'm not worried about that. Some days I'll run the batt all the way down, other days barely 10 or 20%. I signed up for one reason: options. If I don't like it, then fine, I'll cancel in 2 or 3 months, no biggie...certainly not a big investment. But to not sign up and never have the option again would really annoy me to no end! Cheers, guys!

Mike Oxsaw
Jun 6, 2010, 08:57 PM
Don't forget 3G kills the battery faster than WiFi & also usually slower.



Not sure I follow your logic. ATT changed the plan so abruptly b/c iPad owners were using more data than anticipated. Now they have even more iPad owners using even more data. I doubt they are happy about that. If they were making money on the $30 plan they would not have dumped it.

Oh they're making money, lots of it, but the network can't cope. They are reaping the benefit of the tech they are selling without having invested sufficiently In the infrastructure to cope. It's a disgusting way to treat consumers.

They're counting on the iPad and phone being desirable enough to overcome theating their customers like crap. Unfortunately it probably is.

gigaguy
Jun 6, 2010, 09:12 PM
I'm on the 250mb plan and switched up to unlimited yesterday, but it doesn't kick in til June28. Do I trust ATT to do what they are saying, on Jun28? not totally. They created a lot of confusion with misinformation.

so....I called ATT tonight to make sure I'm set up, and well, they were closed. it was 830pm local. It would have been nice to hear that I had the Unlimited plan coming at my next 30 day cycle. but who do you believe? Their email verification said my cc was charged $30.30 but I don't see it yet.
ahh, the magical ipad.

Chupa Chupa
Jun 6, 2010, 09:18 PM
Oh they're making money, lots of it, but the network can't cope. They are reaping the benefit of the tech they are selling without having invested sufficiently In the infrastructure to cope. It's a disgusting way to treat consumers.

They're counting on the iPad and phone being desirable enough to overcome theating their customers like crap. Unfortunately it probably is.

What I'm referring to is CEO Stephenson's initial comments on the 3G back in March (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0218356720100303) that ATT did not expect a lot of 3G subscribers b/c it was primarily a WiFi device:

"My expectation is that there's not going to be a lot of people out there looking for another subscription," he said during a webcast of an investor conference, adding that the device would be a mainly "Wi-Fi driven product."

Obviously that "estimate" was off the mark and the heavy use they are seeing is paying a toll on their network. That, in fact, does cost ATT money.

As for ATT treating customers like crap... they are a cellco. That is what cellcos do. Verizon & Sprint are no better...been there (still have Verizon for home DSL). T-Mob is a little friendlier but there network makes ATT's look beefy.

Blorzoga
Jun 6, 2010, 09:25 PM
I signed up for the unlimited tonight. I'm not even sure if I had to. Shouldn't I have been grandfathered since I bought it before 6/7 which would mean I can sign up anytime and it should be available? Since there is not hard information about the grandfathering, I figured I better sign up in case that falls apart too. This is all very calculated by AT&T. I'm sure they are going to see a HUGE jump in 3G subscriptions today. The thing is, 3G on the iPad SUCKS. it is so unbelievably slow it's not even worth using. I feel like I'm using a dialup modem. I doubt I will autorenew at this point.

I assume the unlimited privilege is not transferrable. I'd sell me 64 gb 3 g in a second and just buy another that's not grandfathered.

Chimera-se
Jun 6, 2010, 09:43 PM
I'm on the 250mb plan and switched up to unlimited yesterday, but it doesn't kick in til June28. Do I trust ATT to do what they are saying, on Jun28? not totally. They created a lot of confusion with misinformation.

so....I called ATT tonight to make sure I'm set up, and well, they were closed. it was 830pm local. It would have been nice to hear that I had the Unlimited plan coming at my next 30 day cycle. but who do you believe? Their email verification said my cc was charged $30.30 but I don't see it yet.
ahh, the magical ipad.

I think you'll be fine. Having that email confirmation will allow you to say and, more importantly, prove when you signed up for the service. Of course if AT&T doesn't honor that, it would be supremely messed up, IMO. But, at least you did what you could...

Dewey911
Jun 6, 2010, 09:44 PM
I am rather new to the forum but I'll give this a go. I did go with the unlimited and AT&T is just now getting up and running here in northern ND. In fact it appears that as of right now the best I can get is what I believe to be "edge" if I read the forums correctly. But I guess my question is how hard or easy is it to use over 2GB? What does one have to be doing to use large amounts of data? Does just having cellular data turned use any? And it seems that when I switched to unlimited and then tried to check my usage it now just says unlimited. I mean the 30 a month is ok with me and I hope once AT&T is in full swing that I will be able to enjoy the 3G benefits that others seem to enjoy. So that's my story...... :)

boltjames
Jun 6, 2010, 11:55 PM
It's more of a wake I suppose than a celebration. Coming is that day you have to yell at your kids to turn off the Internet b/c you don't own the ISP, and you will remember this day, the day when how we pay for data changed forever.

Anyway, I begrudgingly turned on the 3G spigot today.

http://clipart.peirceinternet.com/png/balloons.png

It's an awesome day! I changed my sig in celebration! It's the day that those of us who can afford $1 a day for unlimited internet access anytime, anywhere, stood up to be counted!

And, best of all, this unique club isn't taking any more members. Nope. Time to get "UDP FTW" engraved on the back of my 3G/64GB/$829. The rich get richer. As it should be.

BJ

Posted from my iPad 3G UDP

Zepaw
Jun 7, 2010, 12:24 AM
I did, but if the first month I had it for and then let it lapse is indicative I will probably go down to 2GB. I used 1.8gb the month I had it and I would be surprised if my usage does not decrease. Nice to have the choice though.

stephg
Jun 7, 2010, 01:49 AM
It's almost midnight and I've been debating all day whether to activate my 3G. I finally decided to go ahead and do it. Then I was worried I was too late, since I didn't know if the cutoff was midnight my time or what. Well, I did successfully activate the unlimited 29.99 plan, so I'll see how much I use it for the next month and decide whether or not to continue it. I am definitely dropping my iPhone plan to the low level, so that would help pay for it if I decide to keep it. I figured it was worth the $30 to have the opportunity to stay on this plan.

Chimera-se
Jun 7, 2010, 01:54 AM
Good job stephg! A good decision made in the final hour. Better to at least have the option now and keep it if you want, then to never have it at all!:D

Zazoh
Jun 7, 2010, 05:32 AM
Not sure I follow your logic. ATT changed the plan so abruptly b/c iPad owners were using more data than anticipated. Now they have even more iPad owners using even more data. I doubt they are happy about that. If they were making money on the $30 plan they would not have dumped it.

Not necessarily, AT&T admitted only 2% of users were classified as heavy users. They offer a lower plan for light users but know most will be fearful of going over that and stay where they are. Playing on that same fear they say if you are grandfathered you are okay. Oh, and we'll give you time to grandfather.

There has been a rush of activations and folks saying they will now lock in monthly. The fad of turning off WiFi will subside, only 2% of users will be heavy and AT&T wins all around. If wecdon't think they thought this out, we are underestimating big business. While data modles are new, they've been doing this with phone minutes all along.

Chupa Chupa
Jun 7, 2010, 08:33 AM
Not necessarily, AT&T admitted only 2% of users were classified as heavy users. They offer a lower plan for light users but know most will be fearful of going over that and stay where they are. Playing on that same fear they say if you are grandfathered you are okay. Oh, and we'll give you time to grandfather.

There has been a rush of activations and folks saying they will now lock in monthly. The fad of turning off WiFi will subside, only 2% of users will be heavy and AT&T wins all around. If wecdon't think they thought this out, we are underestimating big business. While data modles are new, they've been doing this with phone minutes all along.

Say you have a pie with 100 pieces and 100 guests, but 2 people are fast eaters and manage to gobble down 25 pieces each. 2% are using 50% of the available pie leaving the other 98% to fight over the remaining 50%.

2% in the abstract is a small number. In reality it depends on the circumstances.

Mitchrapp
Jun 7, 2010, 09:13 AM
It's only a 5 dollar difference, right? 30, unlimited, 25, 2G? I have a wifi only but later this summer I was going to get a 3G for some serious travel for work. I guess I'll go Mifi, but those are a bit more expensive aren't they?

Now I want some pie.

barkomatic
Jun 7, 2010, 09:18 AM
Say you have a pie with 100 pieces and 100 guests, but 2 people are fast eaters and manage to gobble down 25 pieces each. 2% are using 50% of the available pie leaving the other 98% to fight over the remaining 50%.

2% in the abstract is a small number. In reality it depends on the circumstances.

This sounds like one our staff lunches at work. We definitely have a few people here who eat a lot of pie.

Dapper
Jun 7, 2010, 10:27 AM
The latest info from AT&T indicates that as long as you purchased it before 6/7, you can get the unlimited data plan. However, unless you are among the 2% data hog figure, you will save money going with a lesser plan.

I just checked my account and it lists 3 separate plans, 250MB, 2gig and unlimited. Is there any indication how long the grandfathered rates will be available. I currently have the 250MB. Yes it is June 7th.

Chimera-se
Jun 7, 2010, 11:01 AM
Let's not forget that the new plan doesn't even offer an unlimited option. I get the people saying they're not heavy users, but for AT&T not even to offer an unlimited option, even at a higher price for instance, is messed up. There are a lot of people who would pay for the service, even at a high premium, to have it. Don't tell me how to use the Internet AT&T. Oh well, it's most frustrating for people who haven't even bought the device, ya know?

boltjames
Jun 7, 2010, 03:29 PM
Today I checked my Cellular Data Account page ten times on my iPad, just to see those beautiful words "Unlimited Domestic Data" and then I pinch myself just to make sure it's real.

BJ

Posted from my iPad 3G/64GB/$829/UDP/$365