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sheppy1
Jun 9, 2010, 11:17 PM
Hi guys, just thought I'd create a little thread about my new(ish) MBA. Today I picked up, what I think is a newer model MBA, basically it's a store ex display model and I don't know how long it was on display for, it doesn't have a single mark on it or have any problems at all but the battery has completed 110 cycles.

I was slightly wary about buying one of these to begin with as I had a quick browse around this forum and saw lots of people talking about all of the problems they were having, problems such as light bleeding from the edges of the screen, faulty hinges, overheating and so on, even after reading all of this I still decided to buy one, after all I did get rather a good deal, anyway I am pleased to say that I haven't had any of the problems that I read about, my MBA appears to be in perfect condition and the only problem I can find is the rather weak battery life, I fully charged it to 100% earlier and it went down to 0% within about 2-3 hours, I have no idea if this is normal but it isn't much of a problem as most of the time I will be within reach of a plug socket.

Anyway that's about it, just thought I'd introduce my self to the MBA forums and talk a little bit about my new baby :-)



halledise
Jun 10, 2010, 03:51 AM
Hi guys, just thought I'd create a little thread about my new(ish) MBA. Today I picked up, what I think is a newer model MBA, basically it's a store ex display model and I don't know how long it was on display for, it doesn't have a single mark on it or have any problems at all but the battery has completed 110 cycles.

I was slightly wary about buying one of these to begin with as I had a quick browse around this forum and saw lots of people talking about all of the problems they were having, problems such as light bleeding from the edges of the screen, faulty hinges, overheating and so on, even after reading all of this I still decided to buy one, after all I did get rather a good deal, anyway I am pleased to say that I haven't had any of the problems that I read about, my MBA appears to be in perfect condition and the only problem I can find is the rather weak battery life, I fully charged it to 100% earlier and it went down to 0% within about 2-3 hours, I have no idea if this is normal but it isn't much of a problem as most of the time I will be within reach of a plug socket.

Anyway that's about it, just thought I'd introduce my self to the MBA forums and talk a little bit about my new baby :-)

welcome young sheppy!
you have purchased a great little Mac which performs far better than those that don't own one realise.

go to :apple: / 'about this Mac' / to see what specs you have.

as for the battery, allow the Air to run down altogether (screen saver on and 'sleep never') and allow it go to sleep then leave it overnight if possible.

wake it up in the morning by attaching power cable and pressing power button once (takes a while) then allow it to charge for at least 8 hours.
(you can use it during this time if you wish or else shut it down and allow the charging to take place.

some would disagree with me, but this is the best way to recalibrate your battery.
mine's on 400 cycle count and is still rated at 96% health by CoconutBattery
(http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27425)

all the very best! :D

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 10:24 AM
welcome young sheppy!
you have purchased a great little Mac which performs far better than those that don't own one realise.

go to :apple: / 'about this Mac' / to see what specs you have.

as for the battery, allow the Air to run down altogether (screen saver on and 'sleep never') and allow it go to sleep then leave it overnight if possible.

wake it up in the morning by attaching power cable and pressing power button once (takes a while) then allow it to charge for at least 8 hours.
(you can use it during this time if you wish or else shut it down and allow the charging to take place.

some would disagree with me, but this is the best way to recalibrate your battery.
mine's on 400 cycle count and is still rated at 96% health by CoconutBattery
(http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27425)

all the very best! :D

Thanks for the warm welcome, I had a look at the specs and I have the 1.6Ghz model with a 120GB HD. I've checked my battery health with coconut battery and it's showing to have 93% health, this isn't surprising though as the laptop is stores ex display model and it's been sat there with the charger plugged in, on display for about a year now and I'm guessing that's not very good for the battery, I shall do what you have suggested though in an attempt to improve the battery life

Spacekatgal
Jun 10, 2010, 11:25 AM
It's a great laptop! I think you'll really grow to love it!

Bri

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 11:32 AM
HeHe, I've only owned it for a day and I already absolutely adore it, MUCH more than my old basic white Macbook which I owned a few years ago, there is just something about the Air. I am actually looking at buying the Snow Leopard upgrade later on today as I hear it drastically improves loading times and also recovers a lot of much needed HD space.

I let the battery run down to 0% and left it that way for a while, I then fully charged it to 100% which took an absolute age and now It's showing between 2 and 3 hours battery remaining, I'm guessing that's not good lol

halledise
Jun 10, 2010, 03:57 PM
at least you have a RevB with nVidia graphics onboard and a SATA drive rather than the PATA of the RevA, but geez they must've used it as a demo for a long time cos them babies were discontinued in mid-2009.

hopefully you got it fer a bargain price.

unusual with 93% health you're still only getting 3 hours max from a charge.
(a long charge time usually means battery is healthy)
I'd talk with the Apple Store where you purchased it and see what sort of a deal they can do for you to replace the battery.

10.6 should definitely improve things for you.

here are your specs:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook-air/stats/macbook-air-core-2-duo-1.6-13-nvidia-late-2008-specs.html

Scottsdale
Jun 10, 2010, 04:08 PM
Congrats. Welcome to our elitist club, LOL! Hope you enjoy yours as much as the rest of us do!

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 07:48 PM
at least you have a RevB with nVidia graphics onboard and a SATA drive rather than the PATA of the RevA, but geez they must've used it as a demo for a long time cos them babies were discontinued in mid-2009.

hopefully you got it fer a bargain price.

unusual with 93% health you're still only getting 3 hours max from a charge.
(a long charge time usually means battery is healthy)
I'd talk with the Apple Store where you purchased it and see what sort of a deal they can do for you to replace the battery.

10.6 should definitely improve things for you.

here are your specs:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook-air/stats/macbook-air-core-2-duo-1.6-13-nvidia-late-2008-specs.html

Yea I here that this model is one the better ones and I actually bought it from PC World where I work so I really doubt that there is anything that I can do except going to Apple and paying for them to replace the battery, I have just installed Snow Leopard now though so hopefully this will improve he battery life a little bit. Thanks for the spec sheet too :)

Oh and it was only actually out on display for about 3 or 4 months, the rest of the time it was in the warehouse so it has no marks or scratches on it at all and the only problem is the slightly poor battery life

sahni130
Jun 10, 2010, 08:01 PM
Yea I here that this model is one the better ones and I actually bought it from PC World where I work so I really doubt that there is anything that I can do except going to Apple and paying for them to replace the battery, I have just installed Snow Leopard now though so hopefully this will improve he battery life a little bit. Thanks for the spec sheet too :)

Oh and it was only actually out on display for about 3 or 4 months, the rest of the time it was in the warehouse so it has no marks or scratches on it at all and the only problem is the slightly poor battery life

Congrats on you purchase! How much did you pay for it (if you don't mind me asking)?

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 08:07 PM
Congrats on you purchase! How much did you pay for it (if you don't mind me asking)?

Not at all, I paid 500, that's about $730

ClassicII
Jun 10, 2010, 08:18 PM
Congrats!! was it from an apple store? I always wondered what happened to the display models.

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 08:24 PM
Congrats!! was it from an apple store? I always wondered what happened to the display models.

No, it was from PC World, the display models at PC World just get sold off once the new stock has run out, I don't know what they do with them at the Apple store

cloroxbleach4
Jun 10, 2010, 08:25 PM
Very good deal! Congrats

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 08:33 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome everyone :-).

I just wish that I could afford Applecare for it though because as it is an ex-display model I fear that it may develop faults a lot sooner than a new model would and at the moment it is out of warranty and I have no cover on it so I'd be pretty much done for, I'd have to shell out a fortune for Apple to fix it for me

gyus
Jun 10, 2010, 09:14 PM
About your battery - there is no need to cycle your battery like that. That is an old wives tale dating back to the days of NiMH battery packs. Li-On batteries (or their derivative) have a set amount of useful cycles (ie full charge to full discharge) and no memory effect.

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 09:23 PM
About your battery - there is no need to cycle your battery like that. That is an old wives tale dating back to the days of NiMH battery packs. Li-On batteries (or their derivative) have a set amount of useful cycles (ie full charge to full discharge) and no memory effect.

Right, Ok I guess there isn't much I can do about the poor battery life then...It' not that much of a problem though as I won't be taking it on long journeys or anything like that, I will mainly be using it in my lectures when I start Uni

bowlerman625
Jun 10, 2010, 09:30 PM
Enjoy your new toy!!

bowlerman625
Jun 10, 2010, 09:32 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome everyone :-).

I just wish that I could afford Applecare for it though because as it is an ex-display model I fear that it may develop faults a lot sooner than a new model would and at the moment it is out of warranty and I have no cover on it so I'd be pretty much done for, I'd have to shell out a fortune for Apple to fix it for me

Check ebay. I was able to get my AppleCare policy for about 1/2 the normal cost there.

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 09:36 PM
Enjoy your new toy!!

I shall :D i've not stopped playing with it since i got it yesterday, got everything setup the way I wanted it on Leopard and then I decided to buy Snow Leopard so I installed that a few hours ago and I've just been playing about seeing what new stuff i can find (I've owned a Mac before so I had already had a play about on Leopard), so far I'm really impressed with Snow Leopard, it's a lot faster than Leopard, I like the minor UI tweaks and updates and I love how it managed to free up about 10GB of HD space for me too :D...Oh and one more thing I love about this thing is the keyboard, it's an absolute joy to type on, I very rarely hit the wrong key and it's soooooo comfortable too

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 09:38 PM
Check ebay. I was able to get my AppleCare policy for about 1/2 the normal cost there.

Ooooooo really, I didn't realise you could buy it off there, I just thought it was a type of insurance that was just applied to your Macbook, how does it work if you buy it from eBay then? do you get some sort of card with a code on it that you use to register the Apple care on the laptop?

bowlerman625
Jun 10, 2010, 09:44 PM
Ooooooo really, I didn't realise you could buy it off there, I just thought it was a type of insurance that was just applied to your Macbook, how does it work if you buy it from eBay then? do you get some sort of card with a code on it that you use to register the Apple care on the laptop?

First off, you want to make sure you are dealing with a legit seller. There are a number of them out there. When I bought mine, I was sent an email containing the code I needed to use to register the policy. It was very easy and like I said, about half the cost of what Apple sells it for.

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 09:44 PM
Check ebay. I was able to get my AppleCare policy for about 1/2 the normal cost there.

Ok so I've had a look on eBay and it seems to be selling for 1/4 of what it retails at, I have no idea how that works...anyway, in the listing it says that you must still be within your first years warranty for you to be able to apply AppleCare to it, I don't think I'll be able to use it then will I, as my Macbook is over a year old and has been used as a display model, I even checked the warranty status on their website and it says that the 1 year warranty has expired :(

ReallyOldGuy
Jun 10, 2010, 09:44 PM
You will love it even more the longer you have....great price. Congrats and good luck!

bowlerman625
Jun 10, 2010, 09:46 PM
Ok so I've had a look on eBay and it seems to be selling for 1/4 of what it retails at, I have no idea how that works...anyway, in the listing it says that you must still be within your first years warranty for you to be able to apply AppleCare to it, I don't think I'll be able to use it then will I, as my Macbook is over a year old and has been used as a display model, I even checked the warranty status on their website and it says that the 1 year warranty has expired :(

Yes, you are correct. You do need to be within the original one year warranty when you purchase AppleCare.

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 09:48 PM
Yes, you are correct. You do need to be within the original one year warranty when you purchase AppleCare.

Awwwww that sucks, looks like I'm out of luck with that option then, I always thought that the 1 year warranty was always effective from the day you bought the product, is this true?

bowlerman625
Jun 10, 2010, 10:10 PM
Awwwww that sucks, looks like I'm out of luck with that option then, I always thought that the 1 year warranty was always effective from the day you bought the product, is this true?

The one year warranty begins when the original purchaser buys the product brand new. Apple also provides a one year warranty on things they sell refurbished.

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 10:15 PM
The one year warranty begins when the original purchaser buys the product brand new. Apple also provides a one year warranty on things they sell refurbished.

Hmmmmm, well that would be me then as the laptop wasn't previously owned by anyone else, I'm just wondering why the warranty status is showing up as being expired, is it just because it is quite an old laptop? Basically I would now like to by some Applecare off eBay but I wouldn't want to sped 60 on it to then try to apply it to my Macbook and then find out I can't because the warranty has expired

bowlerman625
Jun 10, 2010, 10:18 PM
You may want to ask the seller about that. Or possibly call Apple and have them check the SN for the MBA.

sheppy1
Jun 10, 2010, 10:20 PM
You may want to ask the seller about that. Or possibly call Apple and have them check the SN for the MBA.

Ok, I will give Apple a call tomorrow, thanks for your help :)

bowlerman625
Jun 10, 2010, 10:21 PM
Good luck!

halledise
Jun 11, 2010, 06:32 AM
I actually bought it from PC World

sez it all really … … :rolleyes:

sheppy1
Jun 11, 2010, 08:14 AM
sez it all really :rolleyes:

HaHaHa I actually work there too

sheppy1
Jun 11, 2010, 08:30 AM
Ok well I rang Apple and they said that the warranty was effective from the day that PC World put it out on display so it is definitely out of the 1 year warranty and I can't purchase AppleCare for it...sigh, it's not THAT bad though as I am paying for monthly cover from PC World and that pretty much covers me against everything but theft and loss and i can have it repaired an unlimited amount of times, so I should be fine

halledise
Jun 11, 2010, 06:02 PM
Ok well I rang Apple and they said that the warranty was effective from the day that PC World put it out on display so it is definitely out of the 1 year warranty and I can't purchase AppleCare for it...sigh, it's not THAT bad though as I am paying for monthly cover from PC World and that pretty much covers me against everything but theft and loss and i can have it repaired an unlimited amount of times, so I should be fine

sweeet.
new battery please - oh and throw an SSD in there to replace the faulty hard disk whilst you're at it would you please :D

sheppy1
Jun 11, 2010, 07:13 PM
sweeet.
new battery please - oh and throw an SSD in there to replace the faulty hard disk whilst you're at it would you please :D

HaHa the battery is actually the one thing that they won't replace, not unless it actually develops a fault anyway, if it just has problems holding a charge then they won't replace it as it's just classed as a consumable item

sheppy1
Jun 11, 2010, 10:57 PM
Uh that can't be good, I'm still getting about 2-3 hours out of my battery but the condition has now gone from "Good" to "Normal"

Edit: Oh never-mind, apparently that's just because I've upgraded to Snow Leopard and normal is just the same as Leopards "Good" rating

skate71290
Jun 12, 2010, 08:23 AM
Ooooooo really, I didn't realise you could buy it off there, I just thought it was a type of insurance that was just applied to your Macbook, how does it work if you buy it from eBay then? do you get some sort of card with a code on it that you use to register the Apple care on the laptop?

University Students (UK) get AppleCare really cheap.

sheppy1
Jun 12, 2010, 08:51 AM
University Students (UK) get AppleCare really cheap.

I didn't know that either, is that just an offer from Apple or would I have to ask my Uni about it? It's not like it matters anyway though as my warranty has already expired but it would be good to see what other deals I can get