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relimw
Oct 18, 2004, 03:32 AM
I don't know if it's just me, but I'm personally very tired of all the political ads, and wishy-washiness of all the rheoric from both parties. Anybody else ready for it to be over, and get things somewhat back to normal?



Roger1
Oct 18, 2004, 07:46 AM
I'm ready. I'm tired of the bs both sides are spewing out all over. If they had just taken all the money they had spent campaigning and gave it to charity, our nation would be a better place than it is now. Just put their name on the ballot and let us vote. All your ads aren't going to sway me one way or the other. I've already made up my mind. :rolleyes:

MattG
Oct 18, 2004, 07:49 AM
I'm sick of all of Bush's sleazy smear/attack ads. I'm ready for those to be over.

Early voting starts today in Florida--I'll be going on my lunch break.

Thomas Veil
Oct 18, 2004, 08:15 AM
Frankly, even though I'm obviously a Kerry supporter, I'm ready for all the ads to be over. I'm just sick of them already.

I'm Thomas Veil, and I approved this message.

wordmunger
Oct 18, 2004, 09:05 AM
You guys just live in the wrong state -- I'm in a "red" state and so hardly get any ads -- though our senate race is getting pretty interesting with all the attack ads.

Taft
Oct 18, 2004, 09:36 AM
You guys just live in the wrong state -- I'm in a "red" state and so hardly get any ads -- though our senate race is getting pretty interesting with all the attack ads.

No kidding. I live in Chicago and my parents were in town this weekend from Michigan. They kept mentioning how releaved they were that they got away from the attack ads for the weekend. In Illinois we are blissfully ignorant of most of the attack ads circulating right now.

Ahhh, ignorance.

That said, you still get a healthy dose of partisan attacks if you are at all active in political communities on the internet. Partisan hacks don't limit their attacks to the TV.

Taft

Roger1
Oct 18, 2004, 09:47 AM
Did anybody notice there are no ads on this page. Particularly NO political ads? Hmmm.

relimw
Oct 18, 2004, 11:13 AM
Early voting starts today in Florida--I'll be going on my lunch break.

I'm sorry, what early voting starts today that you're going to? :confused:

Absentee voting has been going for some time now. I voted almost two weeks ago.

blackfox
Oct 18, 2004, 05:55 PM
I'm sick of all of Bush's sleazy smear/attack ads. I'm ready for those to be over.

Early voting starts today in Florida--I'll be going on my lunch break.
Out of curiousity Matt, in what manner did you vote? (ie traditional paper-ballot, electronic voter machine w/ or w/o receipt). Thanks.

pseudobrit
Oct 18, 2004, 06:20 PM
I got a mailing from Swiftvets today. I thought about marking it refused, but they probably just have a trash policy for refused bulk mail, so it just ended up in my trash can.

I'm not ready for the election hubbub to be over.

I remember that after the last presidential Election Day, the real insanity began.

Then of course we had four years of Bush, which was anything but normal. So, yeah, I'm ready for this insanity to end.

Mike Teezie
Oct 18, 2004, 07:54 PM
I'm really ready for it to be over.

I need to hurry up and find out if I have to pack for Canada or not.

:D

MattG
Oct 18, 2004, 08:02 PM
Out of curiousity Matt, in what manner did you vote? (ie traditional paper-ballot, electronic voter machine w/ or w/o receipt). Thanks.Unfortunately I didn't get to vote today; couldn't get out of the office. Will vote tomorrow for sure!

It's touchscreen voting, and they do issue paper-receipts from what I understand.

blackfox
Oct 18, 2004, 08:32 PM
Unfortunately I didn't get to vote today; couldn't get out of the office. Will vote tomorrow for sure!

It's touchscreen voting, and they do issue paper-receipts from what I understand.
Thanks. The reason I ask is because of the cynicism I have about proper fairness in the tabulation of votes. This has been bolstered by the handful of articles describing attempts at manipulating the process for partisan gains. I was curious about your scenario in particular, as many eyes will be focused on the booths come November, but right now I am unsure if much attention is being focused on fairness.

I do not know who you are voting for, but it is in the interest of everyone to have their vote count. Glad to see you are making the effort.

LethalWolfe
Oct 18, 2004, 11:11 PM
I'm Thomas Veil, and I approved this message.

ROFL

Everytime I see one of her ads I'm always thinking, 'I hope you approve it it's your freakin' ad!"


Lethal

blackfox
Oct 18, 2004, 11:29 PM
ROFL

Everytime I see one of her ads I'm always thinking, 'I hope you approve it it's your freakin' ad!"


Lethal
Who is this "her" you are referring to? I assume it is Barbara Boxer, based on where you live and what I can gather from your political leanings.

I believe Thomas was referring to Bush's ads, which may not get much play in California or alternately may not draw your ire for Partisan reasons.

Personally, as someone who never watches TV, I am blissfully unaware of all of this crap. That said, it is the character and nature of many of these ads (eg attack ads) that bother me more than the obviousness of a Politician attaching their explicit approval.

Anyways, in response to the original topic, while I hate the nature of the Political season, I also enjoy the fact that it demands the voter's attention to the Political World, which should happen all the time. It is vaguely depressing, however, that many people, forced to pull their heads from out of the sand for Election season, while rightfully decrying the madness they are exposed to, opt to get back to "normal" instead of trying to address the problems they are so irritated by.

I guess we collectively reap what we sow, by action or inaction...

LethalWolfe
Oct 19, 2004, 12:08 AM
Who is this "her" you are referring to? I assume it is Barbara Boxer, based on where you live and what I can gather from your political leanings.

I am refering to her ads (I couldn't remember her name).

I believe Thomas was referring to Bush's ads, which may not get much play in California or alternately may not draw your ire for Partisan reasons.


I haven't seen any pres. ads


Regardless of my politics, verbally stating approval of your own ad at the end said ad is just a "d'uh" statement. You seem to have me mistaken for a partisan slut. ;)


Lethal

solvs
Oct 19, 2004, 08:08 AM
I need to hurry up and find out if I have to pack for Canada or not.
Me first. I'm only a few hours away. I'll just have to stop off in Bellevue first (or Oregon, no tax) before I go. I hear Macs are expensive up there. At least I'll get healthcare again. :p

relimw
Oct 19, 2004, 09:00 AM
Regardless of my politics, verbally stating approval of your own ad at the end said ad is just a "d'uh" statement. You seem to have me mistaken for a partisan slut. ;)


Actually from what I understand, adding the 'This ad is approved by whoever', is required by the election reform act (mccain-feingold or something like that). Sorry for the speeling errors, I had surgery yestreday and they have me on yummy drugs.

skunk
Oct 19, 2004, 12:58 PM
You speeling looks fine to me. ;)

MattG
Oct 19, 2004, 01:42 PM
Thanks. The reason I ask is because of the cynicism I have about proper fairness in the tabulation of votes. This has been bolstered by the handful of articles describing attempts at manipulating the process for partisan gains. I was curious about your scenario in particular, as many eyes will be focused on the booths come November, but right now I am unsure if much attention is being focused on fairness.

I do not know who you are voting for, but it is in the interest of everyone to have their vote count. Glad to see you are making the effort.
Just got back from voting...loooooong lines there. Stood there for about an hour before I got to vote, but I'm glad I got it over with.

And I take back what I said about the machines leaving paper trails...they are *not* doing that in Florida, at least not in this county.

Xtremehkr
Oct 19, 2004, 06:54 PM
If Bush steals this one too things are going to get ugly...

skunk
Oct 19, 2004, 07:27 PM
Things are already ugly...

Xtremehkr
Oct 19, 2004, 09:25 PM
uglier...

trebblekicked
Oct 20, 2004, 11:51 AM
for those of you who live in battleground states...

how the ******* do you deal with it? i just spent a week in pennsylvania and was inundated with presidential ads. you can't get away from them in pittsburgh; every commercial break on tv, every radio station, every billboard...i simply cannot fathom putting up with that garbage day in and day out.

MattG
Oct 20, 2004, 01:05 PM
for those of you who live in battleground states...

how the ******* do you deal with it? i just spent a week in pennsylvania and was inundated with presidential ads. you can't get away from them in pittsburgh; every commercial break on tv, every radio station, every billboard...i simply cannot fathom putting up with that garbage day in and day out.
I live in the Battleground State of Battleground States, and I'm sick to death of it. I can't wait for the next week and a half to be over.

solvs
Oct 20, 2004, 01:18 PM
I didn't think WA was a battle ground state, but we are also inundated with political ads. I feel bad for you in FL. My Aunt is there, lets just say she's renting a lot more movies and watching less TV these days. She's a big Kerry supporter BTW.

Durandal7
Oct 20, 2004, 09:08 PM
Yes, I am. The campaign ads are starting to get on my nerves. Not do the Presidential campaigns consider Colorado a swing state, but we have a closely contested Senate race and another close race for Congress. Everytime I turn on the TV or radio, all I hear is:
"I'm George W. Bush"
"I'm John Kerry"
"I'm Pete Coors"
"I'm Ken Salazar"
"I'm Greg Walcher"
"I'm John Salazar"

Ack!

It would also be nice to have some finality and certainty about what is going to happen.

blackfox
Oct 20, 2004, 09:14 PM
Durandal, what is the mood of voters with regards to the proposition for Electoral reform? I am curious. Thanks.

The Coors race seems very tight, BTW...

Durandal7
Oct 20, 2004, 09:29 PM
Durandal, what is the mood of voters with regards to the proposition for Electoral reform? I am curious. Thanks.

The Coors race seems very tight, BTW...

Most voters are sadly oblivious to electoral reform. Republicans are dead set against it. Democrat politicians in the state are split on the issue. About half of them want to push it through while the other half is thinking "what if John Kerry wins the state or a Democrat wins in 2008?" Polls show that the voters are about evenly split on the issue, it seems that people outside of the state are paying more attention than inside the state.

I personally think it's a terrible idea that will cut us down to 1 effective electoral vote. I'm not against changing the electoral college system but it should be on a national scale, not just Colorado.

Coors and Salazar are still about even. That could go either way. One thing to keep in mind is that Coors went from being 20 points behind to tied in a matter of weeks. He is a better campaigner than most people give him credit for.

Colorado could easily make Florida in 2000 look like small peanuts this year. Voter registration groups have been caught submitting a record number of falsified registrations. We're talking about thousands of false registrations that were found and likely even more that were pushed through the system. In the meantime, a large number of people registering as Republicans through these groups have discovered that their registrations were never submitted and simply tossed. Because of this, thousands of provisional ballots are being issued for people whose registration was destroyed.

While the Presidential race will probably go to Bush, there will be a very close vote on Amendment 36 and the Senate race. Expect lots of fraud and antics. If the vote gets disrupted, expect accusations to fly towards Attorney General Ken Salazar.

All in all, Colorado may be one of the more interesting states this election. I'm signed up as an election judge so I get to deal with all the provisional ballots and such.