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Chip NoVaMac

Nov 2, 2004, 08:45 PM

The only reason is uniformity, and to not over shadow the new iMac design.

Apple tries to never release a ho-hum product, and they would have had to for the 1.8 or it would over shadow the iMac design.

Not sure that I would agree. At 1.8 for both, and given the inside look of the PM; I assume that there are many of us that would have welcomed a new form factor over the PM without a LCD monitor. A middle ground if you will...

coconn06

Nov 2, 2004, 09:59 PM

Converted2Truth

Nov 2, 2004, 10:06 PM

areyouwishing

Nov 2, 2004, 10:53 PM

Not sure that I would agree. At 1.8 for both, and given the inside look of the PM; I assume that there are many of us that would have welcomed a new form factor over the PM without a LCD monitor. A middle ground if you will...

Yeah, middle ground form factor *would* have been great, i am also in that camp. Apple just doesn't like diversifing their product lines... the "Power" Line and the "i/e" line... in apples eyes everything must fall in one of those 2 categories.

My point was imagining all the people like you, I and the media that would say "wow, what a cool new idea for apple to do a middle ground project" thus stealing thunder from the 2" thick iMac.

btw, benchmarks for the new sp 1.8 vs. the old sp 1.8 are on maccentral's site...
http://www.macworld.com/2004/11/news/ibookbench/index.php

hauer

Nov 3, 2004, 11:29 AM

Thanks for the link. I wish that they'd go more into depth with their report. I always get the feeling from them that they're so deep in Apple's pocket that they don't want to rock the boat.

Dr. No

Nov 8, 2004, 11:46 PM

Converted2Truth

Nov 8, 2004, 11:55 PM

Who would you recommend for RAM??
Everyone will say Crucial. I say Kingston (KTAG5400*G)

where the asterix is the num of Gigabytes. 1G/2G/etc...

Rod Rod

Nov 9, 2004, 03:40 AM

Who would you recommend for RAM??

18004memory.com / coast to coast memory

you get lower prices by first going to ramseeker.com, then clicking on their link. if you go to their site directly you won't get as good prices.

dealram.com does the same thing.

I've ordered all my RAM through ramseeker.com / clicked through to 18004memory.com, and every time I received quality RAM with no problems at all.

~Shard~

Nov 9, 2004, 07:46 AM

Everyone will say Crucial. I say Kingston (KTAG5400*G)

where the asterix is the num of Gigabytes. 1G/2G/etc...

Either one is equally as good. And yes, 18004memory is usually a good deal. I heard that APple actually uses Crucial RAM in their machines, I'm not sure if anyone can confirm this or not....

Rod Rod

Nov 9, 2004, 01:12 PM

Either one is equally as good. And yes, 18004memory is usually a good deal. I heard that APple actually uses Crucial RAM in their machines, I'm not sure if anyone can confirm this or not....

CanadaRAM had the last word (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=1080232&postcount=43) on that issue in this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=89825).

~Shard~

Nov 9, 2004, 04:26 PM

CanadaRAM had the last word (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=1080232&postcount=43) on that issue in this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=89825).

Thanks for the link, good to know!

mac512pbg4

Nov 9, 2004, 06:03 PM

I just ordered my new 1.8GHz PowerMac G5 - 160GB HDD, ATi Radeon 9600XT, AE, 1.25GB RAM (not Apple RAM, of course).

Shipping on or before 11/9. I'm excited to finally be upgrading from my 500 MHz G3 iBook!

Yesterday, I received a similar machine. :D

Opened box; connected wires; transferred contents of nearly full 60GB TiBook with apps, prefs etc. using firewire and setup assistant; updated to 10.3.6; began working - all in about an hour!!! :)

Last week spent almost an entire day cleaning viruses and updating virus software and XP to SP2 on my brother-in law's Compaq PC. :confused:

We report, you decide! :D :D :D

Dr. No

Nov 10, 2004, 01:46 AM

Yesterday, I received a similar machine. :D

Opened box; connected wires; transferred contents of nearly full 60GB TiBook with apps, prefs etc. using firewire and setup assistant; updated to 10.3.6; began working - all in about an hour!!! :)

How do you like the machine? Is it fast?? Are you happy with the new G5 1.8 single?? Tell us all about it :)

mac512pbg4

Nov 10, 2004, 10:00 AM

How do you like the machine? Is it fast?? Are you happy with the new G5 1.8 single?? Tell us all about it :)

Certainly a lot faster than my Powerbook G4 (1G, 1G memory)

Routine Photoshop stuff almost instant (1G memory); I haven't really tested it yet. Everything from web browser to finder windows seem zippier as well.

Very happy so far! :D

As I mentioned above, Apple's transfer setup software was incredible. It isn't hard to do manually, but the assistant made it so easy, I could do other things while it did the work. I'm sure the G5 processor maxxed out the firewire.

It is really big! The noise level is noticeable but not excessive; with iTunes playing, it's not an issue. Did I say it is really big?!!!

Beautiful clean design, not kludgy like most PC towers.

If I have any problems (or new positives) I will post them.

Best thing about Apple is you don't have spend half your life maintaining the system. It just works and you can go about your business. :D

TorbX

Nov 10, 2004, 10:03 AM

Tell us more! Test more stuff out, give us the "average normal" users perspective. Dont care about benchmarks, just the usage and level of happiness :-)

mac512pbg4

Nov 10, 2004, 10:11 AM

Tell us more! Test more stuff out, give us the "average normal" users perspective. Dont care about benchmarks, just the usage and level of happiness :-)

see edited post 1 up

jstock

Nov 10, 2004, 07:55 PM

The noise level is noticeable but not excessive; with iTunes playing, it's not an issue.

Interesting that you say noise is noticable. It isn't on my 1.8 SP G5 at all during normal use. In 8 days I've only heard the fans rev up twice. The first time was when I ran the Hardware Test CD for kicks. I'm right next to it and the only noise is from the new LG superdrive on disc insertion. I'm bummed I didn't get a Pioneer, but at least the LG noise is a known issue. I was worried it might be specific to mine at first. Since it isn't, I'll live with it.

I've never had a Macintosh or a PC this quiet before. It amazes me to be honest.

bokdol

Nov 11, 2004, 08:31 AM

I'm right next to it and the only noise is from the new LG superdrive on disc insertion. I'm bummed I didn't get a Pioneer, but at least the LG noise is a known issue.

you got an LG superdrive? i did not know that apple supported LG superdrives..... could you sendscreen shots of the system profiler?. i want to saee what model it is...
thanks

tiselday

Nov 11, 2004, 08:38 AM

I got mine (w/ Radeon 9600) on monday, installed an additional 1GB, but since it has been an extremely busy week for me, I still have not had time to test it properly. Anyway, here are my first impressions:

The machine feels very snappy to normal usage. I had before a TiBook 667 at home and I use an AluBook 1.33 at work and the difference is quite noticeable. Opening the programs means seen one or two bounces at most.

Under normal usage, i.e. browsing, itunes, email and so on, the machine feels very smooth.

Noise. Noise is a BIG issue for me. I enjoy silence and have a very quiet appartment (with views to a fjord, of course!). I had to sell my iMac G4 after 4 months because I could not stand the sound of the fan 50cm away from my nose. I also borrowed an iMac G5 from a friend to test it, and although very silent while idling, the noise while doing something intensive was irritating. You are supposed to use the computer, not just look at it!! The TiBook had probably spoiled me, it has been a wonderful computer and virtually silent for two years!

The PowerMac is noisier while idling than an iMac G5, I would say. I can perfectly hear it from across the room. But then, this level remains constant all the time (at least, for the moment). I find this much less annoying than the iMac. I have enclosed it in a noise absorbing case (basically a custom made case that does not cover either the front or the rear panels, to keep cooling working!) and then it is extremely silent.

All in all, I am very happy with this PowerMac!!! :)

jstock

Nov 11, 2004, 10:52 AM

you got an LG superdrive? i did not know that apple supported LG superdrives..... could you sendscreen shots of the system profiler?. i want to saee what model it is...
thanks

Sure here you go. I think from reading other sites, batches of the newer G5s got these. I've seen a few other reports.

http://home.comcast.net/~stockjl/LG.tiff

Jawbreaker

Nov 11, 2004, 08:53 PM

I just received my SP 1.8ghz G5 today (though I am still waiting on a new, sadly non-Apple, display).

-the Radeon 9600 beats the GeForce to smithereens and is the best $50 you'll spend

-Noise: I had an iMac G5 and returned it after much hassle and repair because of a noise problem. I figured if a computer is going to be noisy, it should at least be upgradable or have some sort of tradeoff. The Power Mac is ever so slightly louder at idle than an iMac G5 with no processor load. And I do mean slightly; the noise it emits is lower pitch than the iMac's whine and is much nicer to my ears. What really impresses me though is that I've hit the system with everything I've got and the fans have not yet come on. I know they work because they do a short self-test on waking from sleep, but otherwise, the enormous enclosure is clearly far better for keeping things cool.

In summary, it's an amazing machine and should serve me well for years to come.

Devie

Nov 14, 2004, 09:29 PM

I hope to buy this machine (1gb, 160gb, 9600XT) in January with the new Dell 20" Widescreen LCD... c'mon its fricken cheap compared to the ACD! :D

~Shard~

Nov 14, 2004, 09:56 PM

I hope to buy this machine (1gb, 160gb, 9600XT) in January with the new Dell 20" Widescreen LCD... c'mon its fricken cheap compared to the ACD! :D

Most of what Dell sells is cheap compared to Apple... in more ways than one... :cool:

Rod Rod

Nov 14, 2004, 09:58 PM

I hope to buy this machine (1gb, 160gb, 9600XT) in January with the new Dell 20" Widescreen LCD... c'mon its fricken cheap compared to the ACD! :D

I wish Dell gave you the option of removing the Dell brand name from the monitor's bezel.

You're right.. with coupons that 20" Dell 1680x1050 monitor cost $634 the other day (as shown on dealmac.com). What's even better is the Dell monitor has composite, component, S-video, DVI and VGA inputs... and for half price.

~Shard~

Nov 14, 2004, 11:32 PM

You're right.. with coupons that 20" Dell 1680x1050 monitor cost $634 the other day (as shown on dealmac.com). What's even better is the Dell monitor has composite, component, S-video, DVI and VGA inputs... and for half price.

That's true, it is a very good deal. Does anyone know how this things stacks up though in terms of quality, compared to other displays? The thing can have as many features, inputs and outputs as it wants, but if the quality isn't top-notch, that all doesn't mean much. If it's decent on quality though, it's an even better deal. Of course, it's no 30" display... ;)

Regardless, there's just something in the fiber of my being which wouldn't allow myself to buy anything Dell, no matter what it was... :cool:

Dr. No

Nov 22, 2004, 10:47 PM

Does the new single 1.8 use a PPC 970 or 970FX?

Converted2Truth

Nov 22, 2004, 11:01 PM

Does the new single 1.8 use a PPC 970 or 970FX?
Who cares? really... you shouldn't worry about this, but they supposedly to use the 90nm fab 970fx. The original design of this powermac was created before 90nm technology had arrived though, so who really knows. It would be interesting to see if the 970 has the same socket as the 970FX... for upgrade purposes of course... ;)