Anyone update iPod touch 2G to iOS 4?

[NJMetsHero]

It doesn't seem like I'd get very much by updating a 2nd gen touch. Did anyone do it? Curious to see what new features we would get exactly.

[trfjason]

I updated my iPod Touch 2G 8GB to iOS 4. It feels slower than before, anyone else have this experience?

[lilcosco08]

Can't seem to find iBooks.
hmm...

[KaPOWitsCHRIS]

It doesn't seem to let me set a background

[Brradley]

It doesn't seem to let me set a background

You can't have a background, or multitask on the 2G.

[KaPOWitsCHRIS]

You can't have a background, or multitask on the 2G.

Man that sucks D:

[fernando.kreutz]

You can't have a background, or multitask on the 2G.

i'm really disappointed with this, that i found out after the update. So, if even this feature is not included, this firmware update ads nothing but iads to this **it.
also, scrooling looks to be crashing, is not smooth as before.

----edit---

also, i've just noticed now, but, anyone ele feels that the ipod button on the dock looks low-resolution?

[Freshmixture]

You can't have a background, or multitask on the 2G.

I cant see any reason why you cant have a background......:confused:

[Josh.C.123]

damn unlucky guys.. im ok with a 3rd gen but my bro has a 2nd gen... hes gunna be annoyed. and yer i dont understand the wallpaper part... sure multitasking but surely a wallpaper is irrelevant as apple use a black wallpaper anyway?

[vong]

You can't have a background, or multitask on the 2G.

then whats the point for updating a 2G itouch lol :(. lost my reason for updating my iTouch.

[ehmjay]

At least you managed to upgrade...

Tried to install the iOS 4 upgrade today on my iPod Touch 2G and things were going smoothly, albeit taking a bit long.

At the end of the process I got an error saying "An Error Occurred while restoring this ipod (-34)" (screen grab here: http://twitpic.com/1yshie )

[Rowbear]

Upgrade went fine on my 2nd gen. 8g, but I don't see any differences. Aren't we suppose to be able to create folders of apps ? If so, how ?

Thanks in advance ;)

[fernando.kreutz]

At least you managed to upgrade...

Tried to install the iOS 4 upgrade today on my iPod Touch 2G and things were going smoothly, albeit taking a bit long.

At the end of the process I got an error saying "An Error Occurred while restoring this ipod (-34)" (screen grab here: http://twitpic.com/1yshie )

you downloaded the ios 4 over itunes or using direct link? if u used direct link, try downloading again, just to be sure it is not corrupted. Then, reset your device to factory settings (it will reset anyway during the update). Then, if u used direct link and are using a mac, plug in the device, open itunes, press optin and click "restore my device" then select the file source. I hope u're able to update it.

[fernando.kreutz]

Upgrade went fine on my 2nd gen. 8g, but I don't see any differences. Aren't we suppose to be able to create folders of apps ? If so, how ?

Thanks in advance ;)

we are, just hold ur finger in a icon, and when it starts shaking, drag it above anoder icon, then the folder is created.
The most noticiable difference, is the dock, that is exatly the same as in the mac.

[BradenG]

Yea Folders and iBooks is about the only neat features the 2G Touch gets.

Create A Folder: Tap and hold an app and drag it on top of another to create a folder.
edit: beaten

Also, is the Orientation Lock only available to the higher up's as well? Kind of ridiculous that the 2G can't have custom backgrounds / screen orientation lock.

[Night--Mare]

where is game center

[SnowLeopard2008]

damn unlucky guys.. im ok with a 3rd gen but my bro has a 2nd gen... hes gunna be annoyed. and yer i dont understand the wallpaper part... sure multitasking but surely a wallpaper is irrelevant as apple use a black wallpaper anyway?

I cant see any reason why you cant have a background......:confused:

No wallpapers because of the way icons are drawn. It's not as simple as putting an image in the background. I forgot the complete reason but it has something to do with the way the icons have a shadow or something.

[fernando.kreutz]

No wallpapers because of the way icons are drawn. It's not as simple as putting an image in the background. I forgot the complete reason but it has something to do with the way the icons have a shadow or something.

thats why jailbraked iphones and ipod since 1st gen can have a background... bulls*it

[Rowbear]

we are, just hold ur finger in a icon...

Works realy well. Thanks :)

[jaster2]

During the restore process it stopped with a -20 error. This happened during the music/videos part. Re-launched iTunes and it continued the restore for awhile but iTunes eventually crashed. Shut down the computer (G5 PPC), rebooted, relaunched iTunes, process continued and finally ended happy. My iPod Touch 16GB feels exactly the same. In fact, for a moment I thought it didn't have the new software. Not sure why others have posted they are getting slow scrolling etc. I checked and it's exactly how it was under previous OS.

[NJMetsHero]

Apparently if you Jailbreak with redsnow it allows you enable these things. I'm going to try it after class tonight.

I went ahead and did it and everything does seem a bit more sluggish as apposed to before. Weird.

[celticpride678]

where is game center

It will be coming later this year in a separate update.

[lewis82]

I am still updating it... this is SO long!

It was written it could take up to one hour. I'm still not there, but man this is long :\

EDIT: Finally done. First thing I do: swipe across the app pages. It lags. It freezes at the search page. I press the home button. Nothing. I hold it for a couple of seconds. Screen shuts down. Press again, "Synchronizing iPod" appears at the top. And it disappears. I hit the synchronize button on iTunes. It backs up, and syncs again.

I'm trying it live now: it works. Yay!

EDIT #2: This is very pretty. The animation of the icons is just awesome. And I discovered there is a flight mode. Useful to shut the wifi down quickly, as otherwise it would always stay on. Apps load faster. Nice update, even without wallpapers :)

[IJBrekke]

Mine finished, here's my new home screen.

No multitasking, no screen rotation lock, no background images. The lack of the rotation lock really bugs me, I was really looking forward to that. I dig the folders though, they make sense.

[Toshii]

okay , i have the iTouch 3rd generation and its taking hours to backup:mad: . is that going on with anybody else ?

[IJBrekke]

okay , i have the iTouch 3rd generation and its taking hours to backup:mad: . is that going on with anybody else ?

Yes, unfortunately I think there are enough changes to force a complete wipe of the iPod, then a load-up of iOS4, THEN a re-load of all music, pictures, apps, etc...

It took me about 2 hours total.

[bahooki]

then whats the point for updating a 2G itouch lol :(. lost my reason for updating my iTouch.

Persistent wifi and iBooks. Persistent wifi now enables you to lock your Touch and still receive text messages and IMs.

[byulasfjazz]

Tried to update my wifes ipod 2ndGen 8GB this afternoon.. but when it went to restore before loading the new software... it said it was verifying restore with apple. Then it just sat there with an error.. saying apple could not verif restore. I tried 3 times .. same result

what could be wrong??

Im updated to the newest Itunes

I have a solid internet connection

all cables look fine..

dunno

but after the reviews maybe I should think twice about updating it.

[Kibbe17]

Can't seem to find iBooks.
hmm...

Dont you have to download it from the regular app store.. thats how it is with the iPad anyway. I wouldnt know because my update is taking extremely longgg. :mad:

[wywern209]

You can't have a background, or multitask on the 2G.

not if u jailbreak.the latest redsn0w enables this (if u want).

Tried to update my wifes ipod 2ndGen 8GB this afternoon.. but when it went to restore before loading the new software... it said it was verifying restore with apple. Then it just sat there with an error.. saying apple could not verif restore. I tried 3 times .. same result

what could be wrong??

Im updated to the newest Itunes

I have a solid internet connection

all cables look fine..

dunno

but after the reviews maybe I should think twice about updating it.

apple's server is prob bogged down with all the ppl trying to update

I updated my iPod Touch 2G 8GB to iOS 4. It feels slower than before, anyone else have this experience?

nope.i have a 2g and its just as fast for me.

[shankar2]

Not sure if it's relevant but check out this thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=944354

[jpolk]

A bunch of my apps have started crashing. This rots.

[espndeportes]

I can't figure out how to use multitask. No matter which program I open if I double tap it just closes or nothing happens.

Is there something I'm missing?

[celticpride678]

I can't figure out how to use multitask. No matter which program I open if I double tap it just closes or nothing happens.

Is there something I'm missing?

What generation iPod touch do you have?

[Hammie]

I just realized that the 2G Touch's don't have wallpaper. That was the ONLY feature my 9 year old wanted. The suckiest part is that it wiped all his game data away during the update.

He is one sad little fella right now. I feel bad that I did the update now. :(

[lewis82]

I just realized that the 2G Touch's don't have wallpaper. That was the ONLY feature my 9 year old wanted. The suckiest part is that it wiped all his game data away during the update.

He is one sad little fella right now. I feel bad that I did the update now. :(

Just try zooming in any web page in Safari.

It's sooo much smoother. Feels like a much more powerful iPod.

I mean, is the wallpaper that important? Do you stare at the springboard for hours? Everything is snappier, not bad for a free update.

[213rules]

I used redsn0w beta 0.9.5b5 to jailbreak my iPod touch 2G. Now I have multitasking, and wallpapers. Pretty awesome, but half my jailbreak apps don't work. Oh well.

[espndeportes]

What generation iPod touch do you have?

Hmmm not sure but I bought it September 09.....i think 2nd gen

[Hammie]

... is the wallpaper that important...

To a 9 year old, yes.

[sadcamper]

Hmmm not sure but I bought it September 09.....i think 2nd gen

No multitask for you...sorry. :(

[Jimbo47]

For many of these features, apple left out the fact that more than just multitasking would be missing. Only good thing is folders.

[stubeeef]

over an hour into the backup of my daughters 2gen, if I stop it now does that stop the upgrade? From reading here it doesn't sound like it is worth doing on a 2gen. and it is taking forever.

edit: stopped the backup and ejected the touch. went back and plugged it in and it came up fine and still os 3.1.3
from most of what I have read-glad I did. Good night.

[Blakeco123]

heres my upgrade :mad:experience:mad: with ipod touch 2g:

-it took 2 HOURS to back up

-apps wouldn't load properly on the device

-after creating numerous folder in itunes when i went to sync it it deleted all the folders and i had to make them on the device

-feels very sluggish compared to ios 3

-ibooks takes 40 seconds to load and be functional (i.e. turning a page)

-very mad about not having wallpapers on the device (i could care less about multitasking although i do see how it could be a valuable feature)

-the only feature that matters to me was the folders and they serve there purpose although im mad about itunes syncing

[Jimbo47]

over an hour into the backup of my daughters 2gen, if I stop it now does that stop the upgrade? From reading here it doesn't sound like it is worth doing on a 2gen. and it is taking forever.

I would just keep it going. It's still worth it, but some of the *better* features aren't there.

[fernando.kreutz]

after the disapointing result of a disapointing experience in updating to ios 4, i'm really determined to jailbrake my device for the 1st time, when a compatible jailbrake is available (currenty is only to iphone 3g and ipod 2 nd gen except for MC models) i'll do it. I'll get all we wanted: background and multitasking. As gift, a bunch of other features, maybe also wi-fi on/off app on home screen or some bluetooth file transfer and wireless sync.
At this point, "voiding warranty" worths.
And how about overclock? imagine a itouch with liquid nitrogen cooling, hahahaha

[wicked271]

I just updated my 2nd gen 32gb ipod touch to ios4. So far, only update for the 2g ipod touch are the folders and I can see the airplane mode in the settings. Not much else but the folders are great! I really like the folders. Was able to organize all my apps and my 10pages are now down to 4 pages of apps.

Took me almost 3 hours to update but it was worth it! So far had no problems with anything. It took almost 2 hours just to backup all my files.

[fishduckbean]

I updated my 2G Touch and with a jailbreak multitasking and backgrounds are enabled. Not really any noticeable speed changes but the animation does lag a bit when returning to the home screen...

[uptherighttree]

been running iOS4 with the developer release and then the official version.

upgrade took 30 mins max and have to say I think it's running nice. For it's age (Touch 2G) i'd say it handles well.

multi tasking would have been sweet but i've survived without it so not going to complain.

really wish i had an iphone now instead of my htc hd2....grrr!

[brsboarder]

go jailbreak your ipod if all you wanted was multitasking and backgrounds. Not too difficult for a solution thats been perfected over the past 2 years.

[Duffinator]

I'm on the fence on whether or not to upgrade. I'm on 3.1.3 and it works fine. No big deal about the multitasking as mine in mainly used for music. My concern is the speed. Can anyone confirm if 4.0 is faster or slower?

[bobnugget]

To a 9 year old, yes.

Hey, try jailbreaking with redsn0w, there are guides on the web. You can add the background then, and although the icons animations are a little slower, it works fine over all. I've got multi-tasking on my 2G iPod Touch using this tool, too.

[liamkp]

Hey, try jailbreaking with redsn0w, there are guides on the web. You can add the background then, and although the icons animations are a little slower, it works fine over all. I've got multi-tasking on my 2G iPod Touch using this tool, too.

You can get winterboard. :)

[trsnrtr]

Upgrade went fine on my 2nd gen. 8g, but I don't see any differences. Aren't we suppose to be able to create folders of apps ? If so, how ?

Thanks in advance ;)

I thought that you couldn't upgrade the 8gig Touch?

Never mind, my machine just updated to iTunes 9.2 and now shows that I can update my 3rd gen, 8gig Touch. :)

[trsnrtr]

FWIW, I just upgraded my 3g,8 gig and it took about 15 minutes total. :)

[rainsguitar]

i liked the OS4 but unfortunately it wouldnt interface with my car's ipod uPAC control module. well, i would have had to buy another piece of hardware to get it to be compatible. I reverted back. i had the 2nd gen anyway. most of the cool upgrades didnt even happen on this device.

[Aeroplane]

I'm on the fence on whether or not to upgrade. I'm on 3.1.3 and it works fine. No big deal about the multitasking as mine in mainly used for music. My concern is the speed. Can anyone confirm if 4.0 is faster or slower?

This is what concerns me for the most part.

Im going to keep my 3.x OS for now (although will be missing the iBooks for pdfs and books)
but when newer apps and updates start asking me for iOS4 it's gonna be HELL if the ipod suddenly goes slow and buggy....

i think i'll hold the update until they do some adjustments in .x revisions to address specific 2nd ipod issues....anyone agree in this course of action?!!?!?!

[liamkp]

I dont have an ipod touch but i agree.

[NetShroud]

I'm disappointed by the lack of a software orientation lock, one of the promised features of iOS 4.

[liamkp]

So are alot of people. :(

[Duffinator]

Possibly another reason not to upgrade, an issue with WiFi. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=944419)

[trsnrtr]

I've had iOS4 running on my 3rd gen, 8 gig Touch now for 24 hours and it runs just as fast as it always did and I can see no difference in wifi at all. If anything, it's better. I had iBooks on my iPad and definitely wanted it for my Touch. I spent a couple hours today at the local hospital reading a book while waiting on my wife visiting a friend. What is really nice is that the same books are allowed on both devices and I can now continue reading on the bigger iPad at home. If I bothered to sync both, it would even have my same bookmarks.

I'm always amazed at naysayers, especially those that haven't even tried it yet.

[Dale Sorel]

I'll tell you what... iOS4 is definitely worth it after you use the redsn0w jailbreak :p

[liamkp]

For all the people with battery problems: The answer is to restore but DO NOT RESTORE FROM BACKUP. Restore and then sync. It fixes the battery problem, but you have to go through and reestablish all your app prefs.

I found this on another post, good luck!

[shep456]

Since updating to iOS4, my NY Times app crashes every time after I read a story and then go back to the table of contents.
Clearly a bug fix is needed here. How come this kind of thing is not detected in the beta testing?:(

[Dale Sorel]

Since updating to iOS4, my NY Times app crashes every time after I read a story and then go back to the table of contents.
Clearly a bug fix is needed here. How come this kind of thing is not detected in the beta testing?:(

My NY Times was crashing a lot too... I just deleted it and re-downloaded and now it works fine.

[liamkp]

Try that with every app that doesnt work. :)

[iMacdude313]

Anybody notice shotty wifi after the update? I always have full connection at home, after the iOS 4 update I've had shotty wifi throughout my house. Nothing has changed to my airport and everything else works fine (360 and Macbook). Now I have one or two bars on the iPod wifi connection...

[Duffinator]

Anybody notice shotty wifi after the update? I always have full connection at home, after the iOS 4 update I've had shotty wifi throughout my house. Nothing has changed to my airport and everything else works fine (360 and Macbook). Now I have one or two bars on the iPod wifi connection...Did you read the link in post 60?

[OGDaniel]

i'm really disappointed with this, that i found out after the update. So, if even this feature is not included, this firmware update ads nothing but iads to this **it.
also, scrooling looks to be crashing, is not smooth as before.

----edit---

also, i've just noticed now, but, anyone ele feels that the ipod button on the dock looks low-resolution?

iAds aren't actually the only thing added. Your mail was improved, you can make folders, you can make playlists, and now spell checking is incorporated into the native apps. For me, folders is enough to upgrade. And after a day of rigorous personal testing, my whole device seems to be running smoother. You obviously don't see this though.

Why don't you go jailbreak and brick your device.

[liamkp]

Anybody notice shotty wifi after the update? I always have full connection at home, after the iOS 4 update I've had shotty wifi throughout my house. Nothing has changed to my airport and everything else works fine (360 and Macbook). Now I have one or two bars on the iPod wifi connection...
I was following another post where a guy went to the Genius bar and they said that you should restore without backing it up.
iAds aren't actually the only thing added. Your mail was improved, you can make folders, you can make playlists, and now spell checking is incorporated into the native apps. For me, folders is enough to upgrade. And after a day of rigorous personal testing, my whole device seems to be running smoother. You obviously don't see this though.

Why don't you go jailbreak and brick your device.

+1

[philosopherdog]

Three words: DONT DO IT! The new features aren't worth it. It kills your battery and is not ready for prime time. I installed it on two different Touches and it's flakey at best. I had to waste time downgrading to 3.1.2 since Apple prevents you from going back to 3.1.3! Thanx Apple! Really appreciate it. I like the adding insult to injury technique for building customer loyalty.

[liamkp]

Three words: DONT DO IT! The new features aren't worth it. It kills your battery and is not ready for prime time. I installed it on two different Touches and it's flakey at best. I had to waste time downgrading to 3.1.2 since Apple prevents you from going back to 3.1.3! Thanx Apple! Really appreciate it. I like the adding insult to injury technique for building customer loyalty.

Thats technically 4 words. :p

Ive heard it great, terrible and ok, im confused.

[doug in albq]

Three words: DONT DO IT! The new features aren't worth it. It kills your battery and is not ready for prime time. I installed it on two different Touches and it's flakey at best. I had to waste time downgrading to 3.1.2 since Apple prevents you from going back to 3.1.3! Thanx Apple! Really appreciate it. I like the adding insult to injury technique for building customer loyalty.


absolutely correct. iOS 4 on an iPod Touch 2G is very slow! If you still have 3.1.3 I would keep it, as Apple will not even let us iPT 2G folks downgrade even though performance is terrible in many apps!

quite pissed at Apple about this...4.1, or 4.0.1 better have some fixes for the poor performance on a device they say is supported!

[liamkp]

This thread is so full of hatred! :mad:

:)

[knightlie]

There seem to be very different experiences. My 2G Touch is definitely sluggish after the upgrade, and it crashes regularly - Safari in particular. The home screen is so sluggish that the whizzing icons animation often doesn't happen because it stops updating the screen. The new features just about make it worthwhile, as will apps using the new iSO 4 features, but I hope there's an update soon.

[Hmmiller]

Can't seem to find iBooks.
hmm...

I also cannot find iBook. Any help?

[tadad1]

I also cannot find iBook. Any help?

It is not included in iOS 4.0 you need to download it from iTunes like a regular app.

[Duffinator]

This thread is so full of hatred! :mad:

:)Nothing wrong with someone expressing their disappointment with this software upgrade. Those of us with a 2G Touch want to know what others are experiencing with the new software. iOS 4 works great on my iPhone 4 but looks like it's not working as well on a 2G Touch so I'll wait to upgrade the software on mine.

[liamkp]

Nothing wrong with someone expressing their disappointment with this software upgrade. Those of us with a 2G Touch want to know what others are experiencing with the new software. iOS 4 works great on my iPhone 4 but looks like it's not working as well on a 2G Touch so I'll wait to upgrade the software on mine.

Just saying; hatred at iOS4 and Apple.

[DolmenRage]

It's buggy and slow and the battery life is much worse, but there's a few things that are worth it. Namely, folders (I have everything in just one screen instead of ten), the new look for albums, and the playlist maker thing. Screen rotation lock would be good.
If I were you I'd wait for the update that is supposed to fix this update.

[Vader]

I believe battery life decrease is due to a new feature. The wifi will stay on while the iPod is in sleep mode (more than just at the interval set to check mail) to receive push notifications.

I just turn wifi off when I don't need it, and I haven't noticed any worse battery life. Mine is even jailbroken, so I do multitasking and have a custom background.

It is slow sometimes, but I assumed that is from the jailbreak running multitasking and backgrounds.

[FallenAnjel]

I originally heard that 2nd gen wasn't upgradeable to iOS4. Some people have done it, some haven't. Since iOS4 uses so much space, I would think the less gigs you have, the slower it's going to make the iTouch. Makes logical sense, right? I have less than a gig available on the 2nd gen, so I'm not going to upgrade. The people I know that did upgrade successfully, had at least 4gb free space. I tried it, but iTunes got stuck on "Backing up", so I gave up. I let my son play w/ the 8gb, I have my 32gb 3rd gen.

[lilcosco08]

multitasking works pretty well on a JB 2g

[liamkp]

I originally heard that 2nd gen wasn't upgradeable to iOS4. Some people have done it, some haven't. Since iOS4 uses so much space, I would think the less gigs you have, the slower it's going to make the iTouch. Makes logical sense, right? I have less than a gig available on the 2nd gen, so I'm not going to upgrade. The people I know that did upgrade successfully, had at least 4gb free space. I tried it, but iTunes got stuck on "Backing up", so I gave up. I let my son play w/ the 8gb, I have my 32gb 3rd gen.

I dont think it's not upgradeable unless something changed. Not really, use of storage doesn't make devices slower... does it?

[Dale Sorel]

multitasking works pretty well on a JB 2g

Agreed :cool:

[liamkp]

Agreed :cool:

Cool, :cool:

[cherieaustralia]

I have a 2g Touch 8gb and immediately after updating to iOS 4 it froze. I searched the internet for days to find a way to fix it but nothing worked. I could re-charge it ok and iTunes could see it but it was stuck in a sort of restore/ unknown error loop. This week I sent it back to Apple to fix or replace.

[liamkp]

I have a 2g Touch 8gb and immediately after updating to iOS 4 it froze. I searched the internet for days to find a way to fix it but nothing worked. I could re-charge it ok and iTunes could see it but it was stuck in a sort of restore/ unknown error loop. This week I sent it back to Apple to fix or replace.

Fee?

[cherieaustralia]

Fee?


In Apples letter they say
Problem Description: System-wide Issues - Frozen - Apple Logo

Our initial diagnosis indicates that because your product replacement will likely be covered by the warranty, an AppleCare Protection Plan, or another Apple repair program, there should be no charge to you.

[archurban]

multitasking works pretty well on a JB 2g

are you sure about that? ipod touch 2G has only 128MB memory. when it does multitasking, at some point, apps run very slower, and froze too. so you have constantly to clear memory by using free memory pro, or memory swap. but that's not enough. overall performance is not really what I expected. it is slower than 3.1.3. I don't agree with you. it's not running great. my iphone 3Gs seems to run fair though.

[liamkp]

In Apples letter they say
Problem Description: System-wide Issues - Frozen - Apple Logo

Our initial diagnosis indicates that because your product replacement will likely be covered by the warranty, an AppleCare Protection Plan, or another Apple repair program, there should be no charge to you.

Ok, just wondering.

[skyperbon]

It doesn't seem like I'd get very much by updating a 2nd gen touch. Did anyone do it? Curious to see what new features we would get exactly.

I upgraded to iOS 4 but now my iPod seems to run a little slower, maps wont display my current location(registered with skyhook wireless), no backgrounds, no multitasking, and the battery doesn't last too long(might be because of persistent WiFi)

I might decide to downgrade to 3.1.3.

[liamkp]

I upgraded to iOS 4 but now my iPod seems to run a little slower, maps wont display my current location(registered with skyhook wireless), no backgrounds, no multitasking, and the battery doesn't last too long(might be because of persistent WiFi)

I might decide to downgrade to 3.1.3.

There are two solutions that might work: doing a full restore (you'll lose all your saves and such), or turning off push notifications. You should probably try turning off push notification first though.

[Phat Elvis]

Everything is slow now. I used to have no lag at all and now it takes 15 sec (timed) just to open 'settings'.

I've got it in airplane mode and with wifi off but it seems to inconsistently take forever to open up apps. I did the complete restore (not from back up) and reloaded everything. Not better.

This has been a big dissappointment. If the chip can't handle it then don't allow 2nd generation iPod Touch to upgrade to it. Hopefully there will be a patch - or at least the opportunity to downgrade the OS.

[liamkp]

Everything is slow now. I used to have no lag at all and now it takes 15 sec (timed) just to open 'settings'.

I've got it in airplane mode and with wifi off but it seems to inconsistently take forever to open up apps. I did the complete restore (not from back up) and reloaded everything. Not better.

This has been a big dissappointment. If the chip can't handle it then don't allow 2nd generation iPod Touch to upgrade to it. Hopefully there will be a patch - or at least the opportunity to downgrade the OS.

Try turning off push notifications.

[Phat Elvis]

Try turning off push notifications.

I did. That didn't help. But then I noticed that my Wi-Fi was greyed out and unavailable for some reason. I couldn't turn it on or off.

I did a soft reset and the Wi-Fi reappeared. It's running a lot faster now - but still not as fast as before the new OS.

[doug in albq]

after setting up my iPod touch 2G as a new device and not using a backup, it is actually much faster. Works just about as fast as 3.1.3.

I need to retract my previous post on this thread...my Touch is now mostly all good.:)

[DragonJade]

In Apples letter they say
Problem Description: System-wide Issues - Frozen - Apple Logo

Our initial diagnosis indicates that because your product replacement will likely be covered by the warranty, an AppleCare Protection Plan, or another Apple repair program, there should be no charge to you.

So, you have AppleCare? I wonder what Apple would have said if you didn't.

[cherieaustralia]

So, you have AppleCare? I wonder what Apple would have said if you didn't.

No I don't have AppleCare.
But my refurbished iPod Touch was only six months old. Status on the Apple page says it's been replaced and on its way to me. No charges have been mentioned.

[Wren523]

I had to do full restore when I upgraded cuz of error 34 when I tried to sync. All playlists were gone and I couldn't add any manually. After the pain of full restore, I could add playlists again, but always got message that my iPod was interrupted ... and did I want to cancel, delete back-up or continue? I always chose cancel and thought I could deal w that since everything else was great (no wifi probs or battery issues). Then yesterday error 34 again and all playlists gone; this time I could add new ones. I have Time Machine now, but don't know where to look for playlists file. I'd appreciate any assistance in locating them.

[fernando.kreutz]

iAds aren't actually the only thing added. Your mail was improved, you can make folders, you can make playlists, and now spell checking is incorporated into the native apps. For me, folders is enough to upgrade. And after a day of rigorous personal testing, my whole device seems to be running smoother. You obviously don't see this though.

Why don't you go jailbreak and brick your device.

actually, i've already tried, both things, brick and jailbreak it, unfortunatly, none worked ; )

[Aeroplane]

how many people have been complaining about iOS4 making their ipod touch 2nd touch slower...

I kinda hate the way they give you something (folders, ibooks, etc) but ruin a bit of the functionality of the ipod, in general making your ipod user experience diminished...all i can think of now is to buy an upgrade soon, depending on whether the new ipod comes with a super cool camera and facetime, if not. blah!!! i'll wait for ipod touch 5! :p

[liamkp]

how many people have been complaining about iOS4 making their ipod touch 2nd touch slower...

I kinda hate the way they give you something (folders, ibooks, etc) but ruin a bit of the functionality of the ipod, in general making your ipod user experience diminished...all i can think of now is to buy an upgrade soon, depending on whether the new ipod comes with a super cool camera and facetime, if not. blah!!! i'll wait for ipod touch 5! :p

You can downgrade to 3.1.2 http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/, the 3.1.3 firmware file is corrupted.

See my sig.

[Wren523]

My itouch G2 does use up battery power so quickly since 4.0 update. I have turned off wi-fi when not using it and all notifications forever.:(

[abriwin]

I mean 2g or 3 g - i bought it last xmas

[liamkp]

I mean 2g or 3 g - i bought it last xmas

Is it 8GB?

[iMac0765]

If it's 8GB, then don't update to iOS4. It's not worth it... :)

[Dale Sorel]

If it's 8GB, then don't update to iOS4. It's not worth it... :)

Until you perform a redsn0w jailbreak on it :)

[unagimiyagi]

iphone 4 os is worthless on a 2g. It's slow as molasses, and my battery life went to mush.

[TMC2k1]

Is there absolutely NO way to go back to 3.1.3? I have an iPod Touch 2G. I am kicking myself to not sticking with 3.1.3. My iPod is SO much slower since "upgrading" to os 4.0. This sucks. :mad:

[pogi]

After reading all 5 pages, I decided NOT to upgrade my Ipod Touch 2G 8Gb to iOS4. Firmware 3.1.2 works fine, I use my iPod mainly as videoplayer (while driving in bus to work), somethimes when my son uses PC I use it as internet browser and somethimes he plays games on iPod..... and that's it.

[liamkp]

After reading all 5 pages, I decided NOT to upgrade my Ipod Touch 2G 8Gb to iOS4. Firmware 3.1.2 works fine, I use my iPod mainly as videoplayer (while driving in bus to work), somethimes when my son uses PC I use it as internet browser and somethimes he plays games on iPod..... and that's it.

+1

[TMC2k1]

I restored back to 3.1.2. How do I jailbreak now? I tried using blackra1n and I keep getting errors with the program itself and needing to close.

EDIT: Nevermind. Got it to work! :)

[kapeman]

After reading all 5 pages, I decided NOT to upgrade my Ipod Touch 2G 8Gb to iOS4. Firmware 3.1.2 works fine, I use my iPod mainly as videoplayer (while driving in bus to work), somethimes when my son uses PC I use it as internet browser and somethimes he plays games on iPod..... and that's it.

I wish I had come here before I upgraded!

:mad:

[liamkp]

I wish I had come here before I upgraded!

:mad:
You can still downgrade...

[Macloven]

You can still downgrade...

so far I haven't been able to downgrade. I've got a 2g updated to 4.0 and it's almost unusable in my car.

Tried the 2.2.1 and 3.1.2 firmware downgrades from the felixbruns site, and it wouldn't work. Either I got error 20 on 2.2.1 and 3.1.2 said it was unauthorized. My ipod is not jailbroken and I didn't save the signature files before I upgraded.

is there a way to go back still???? Please point me in the right direction, as I hate to throw this thing but getting close.....

Thanks,

Mark

[liamkp]

so far I haven't been able to downgrade. I've got a 2g updated to 4.0 and it's almost unusable in my car.

Tried the 2.2.1 and 3.1.2 firmware downgrades from the felixbruns site, and it wouldn't work. Either I got error 20 on 2.2.1 and 3.1.2 said it was unauthorized. My ipod is not jailbroken and I didn't save the signature files before I upgraded.

is there a way to go back still???? Please point me in the right direction, as I hate to throw this thing but getting close.....

Thanks,

Mark
Hmmmm... Thats odd. A restore in DFU mode might help but you would still be in iOS4.

[Macloven]

Hmmmm... Thats odd. A restore in DFU mode might help but you would still be in iOS4.

I was able to get it going again in os4 after the various error messages, but nothing works going down in versions. Between Safari 5 crashing all the time, and now this, losing faith in Apple big time. Both upgrades that prevent going backwards...this is much too much like the windows world :mad:

[Macloven]

Hmmmm... Thats odd. A restore in DFU mode might help but you would still be in iOS4.

Ipod is now restoring after trying the process in DFU mode. It appears to be showing 2.2.1! It even gave a notice that some of my app's are incompatible with my version of OS, so encouraging. It'll probably take another hour or so before everything is synced and I can start rebuilding the thing, but if it works in my car again, all will be well.

For others trying this, my touch is 2g, mb model 32gb. Not jailbroken, updated from 2.2.1 straight to 4.0. I didn't get copies of the files needed for signatures etc so didn't think this could work, but for now.....

Cautiously optimistic thank you!

Mark

[kapeman]

Ipod is now restoring after trying the process in DFU mode. It appears to be showing 2.2.1! It even gave a notice that some of my app's are incompatible with my version of OS, so encouraging. It'll probably take another hour or so before everything is synced and I can start rebuilding the thing, but if it works in my car again, all will be well.

For others trying this, my touch is 2g, mb model 32gb. Not jailbroken, updated from 2.2.1 straight to 4.0. I didn't get copies of the files needed for signatures etc so didn't think this could work, but for now.....

Cautiously optimistic thank you!

Mark

I am in the exact same situation.

Went from 2.2.1 to 4.0 and it not only negatively affected my ipod, but now my iHome radio is not supported.

I am trying to downgrade to 3.1.3, but not having much luck.

I was seriously considering an iPad, but that is not going to happen now.

It will be a cold day before I buy another Apple product.

[AJ.G]

yeah...

i had an itouch 2nd gen 8 gig until i replaced it cuz it messed up.
so at the apple store they replaced it with an 8 gig itouch 3rd gen.
and i was rly hyped up abt multitasking and eerything i couldnt do on my 2g itouch,
only to realise that the 3rd gen 8 gig is pretty much the same,
therefore no multitasking, i was really dissapointed.

but it doesnt feel slower, and i like the new doc!!

:P

AJ-

[cubist]

Yes, it's a little slower, and battery life a little shorter. But as a developer I want everyone to update to it so I can use UIGestureRecognizer in my apps ;-).

[Duffinator]

Yes, it's a little slower, and battery life a little shorter. And I'm sticking with 3.1.3.

[tod]

I'm holding off on upgrading my iPod Touch 2G, because I need to test iPhone apps against 3.1.3.

Be careful if you decide to upgrade. iTunes will not let you downgrade. It won't even let you go from 4.0.1 to 4.0. iTunes phones home to Apple to verify your iOS software image before it will install it, and if Apple has deemed that they don't want you to install something, you won't be able to.

[Macloven]

I am in the exact same situation.

Went from 2.2.1 to 4.0 and it not only negatively affected my ipod, but now my iHome radio is not supported.

I am trying to downgrade to 3.1.3, but not having much luck.

I was seriously considering an iPad, but that is not going to happen now.

It will be a cold day before I buy another Apple product.

I couldn't get mine to go from 4.0 to 3.1.2 or 3.1.3 but thinking that's because I'd never purchased those updates. I went 2.2.1 straight to 4.0.

Now that I've successfully downgraded back to 2.2.1, the touch works perfectly in my car again, which was my main objective. A few of the free apps no longer work as they require 3 or higher, but I'm not touching this thing. Still pissed about the time wasted, but at least I have my tunes again on the road :D

[liamkp]

I couldn't get mine to go from 4.0 to 3.1.2 or 3.1.3 but thinking that's because I'd never purchased those updates. I went 2.2.1 straight to 4.0.

Now that I've successfully downgraded back to 2.2.1, the touch works perfectly in my car again, which was my main objective. A few of the free apps no longer work as they require 3 or higher, but I'm not touching this thing. Still pissed about the time wasted, but at least I have my tunes again on the road :D
Glad to hear! :)

[zjzjn1]

My 2nd gen iPod touch supports multitasking and custom wallpaper. Just jailbreak it with redsnow and they will be enabled! Pics confirm that!

http://www.shrani.si/f/g/Y7/3zpI3Pdx/photo2.png http://www.shrani.si/f/2N/V/nTwKTzX/photo.png

[Derkatwork]

Mine finished, here's my new home screen.

No multitasking, no screen rotation lock, no background images. The lack of the rotation lock really bugs me, I was really looking forward to that. I dig the folders though, they make sense.

Why is it that simple things like no background image can't be given to them? On a jailbroken iphone 1st gen, I don't notice any drop in performance. So why does Apple withhold that and screen rotation lock? Or are they hinting that upgrades should be made?