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skunk
Oct 23, 2004, 03:43 PM
http://nytimes.com/2004/10/24/international/worldspecial2/24gitmo.html?hp&ex=1098590400&en=65eec9e56f90971f&ei=5094&partner=homepage
After Terror, a Secret Rewriting of Military Law
By TIM GOLDEN

Published: October 24, 2004

ASHINGTON - In early November 2001, with Americans still staggered by the Sept. 11 attacks, a small group of White House officials worked in great secrecy to devise a new system of justice for the new war they had declared on terrorism.

Determined to deal aggressively with the terrorists they expected to capture, the officials bypassed the federal courts and their constitutional guarantees, giving the military the authority to detain foreign suspects indefinitely and prosecute them in tribunals not used since World War II.

The plan was considered so sensitive that senior White House officials kept its final details hidden from the president's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, and the secretary of state, Colin L. Powell, officials said. It was so urgent, some of those involved said, that they hardly thought of consulting Congress.

White House officials said their use of extraordinary powers would allow the Pentagon to collect crucial intelligence and mete out swift, unmerciful justice. "We think it guarantees that we'll have the kind of treatment of these individuals that we believe they deserve," said Vice President Dick Cheney, who was a driving force behind the policy.

But three years later, not a single terrorist has been prosecuted. Of the roughly 560 men being held at the United States naval base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, only 4 have been formally charged. Preliminary hearings for those suspects brought such a barrage of procedural challenges and public criticism that verdicts could still be months away. And since a Supreme Court decision in June that gave the detainees the right to challenge their imprisonment in federal court, the Pentagon has stepped up efforts to send home hundreds of men whom it once branded as dangerous terrorists.

"We've cleared whole forests of paper developing procedures for these tribunals, and no one has been tried yet," said Richard L. Shiffrin, who worked on the issue as the Pentagon's deputy general counsel for intelligence matters. "They just ended up in this Kafkaesque sort of purgatory."

The story of how Guantánamo and the new military justice system became an intractable legacy of Sept. 11 has been largely hidden from public view.

But extensive interviews with current and former officials and a review of confidential documents reveal that the legal strategy took shape as the ambition of a small core of conservative administration officials whose political influence and bureaucratic skill gave them remarkable power in the aftermath of the attacks.

The strategy became a source of sharp conflict within the Bush administration, eventually pitting the highest-profile cabinet secretaries - including Ms. Rice and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld - against one another over issues of due process, intelligence-gathering and international law.

In fact, many officials contend, some of the most serious problems with the military justice system are rooted in the secretive and contentious process from which it emerged.

Military lawyers were largely excluded from that process in the days after Sept. 11. They have since waged a long struggle to ensure terrorist prosecutions meet what they say are basic standards of fairness. Uniformed lawyers now assigned to defend Guantánamo detainees have become among the most forceful critics of the Pentagon's own system.

Foreign policy officials voiced concerns about the legal and diplomatic ramifications, but had little influence. Increasingly, the administration's plan has come under criticism even from close allies, complicating efforts to transfer scores of Guantánamo prisoners back to their home governments.

To the policy's architects, the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon represented a stinging challenge to American power and an imperative to consider measures that might have been unimaginable in less threatening times. Yet some officials said the strategy was also shaped by longstanding political agendas that had relatively little to do with fighting terrorism......(more)
Interesting read.



Desertrat
Oct 23, 2004, 05:12 PM
I still am in accord with those who have said that there are enough laws already on the books, that we don't need new laws to deal with any facet of the "WOT". I still believe the Patriot Act does more to protect Congressfolks and high bureaucrats than it does the public at large.

I don't have a problem with military courts/tribunals dealing with any who have been shooting at our troops. Even there, though, the dealings should be timely and in accord with the UCMJ. I sure don't see any need for secrecy in the process, if further legal enablements are needed.

I'd like to know which Big Wheels were on which side during the "secretive and contentious process".

'Rat

skunk
Oct 23, 2004, 08:39 PM
I don't have a problem with military courts/tribunals dealing with any who have been shooting at our troops. Even there, though, the dealings should be timely and in accord with the UCMJ. I sure don't see any need for secrecy in the process, if further legal enablements are needed.
Quite. But you also need to bear in mind that some of those in Guantanamo were NOT shooting at anybody. Some were picked up/kidnapped/handed over to the US or the Pakistanis or the Northern Alliance for little or no reason. This is why the detention without trial is so unjust.

solvs
Oct 25, 2004, 06:42 AM
Quite. But you also need to bear in mind that some of those in Guantanamo were NOT shooting at anybody. Some were picked up/kidnapped/handed over to the US or the Pakistanis or the Northern Alliance for little or no reason. This is why the detention without trial is so unjust.
Welcome to the current Patriot Act. Have you read that thing? Same type of crap. Isn't this why we kicked the British out in the first place? :p

skunk
Oct 25, 2004, 12:58 PM
Isn't this why we kicked the British out in the first place? :p
No, that was just a storm in a teacup.

solvs
Oct 27, 2004, 01:52 AM
Well, we are fighting for Texas tea.

(Oil, son... black gold, Texas tea)