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boltjames
Jun 24, 2010, 02:19 PM
Someone please tell me that the 720p 30fps native videos that the iPhone 4 takes will seamlessly and easily play on Apple TV with no encoding or tricks necessary.

Thank you.

BJ

Posted from my iP4/32GB/UDP/$299



suss2it
Jun 24, 2010, 03:20 PM
If you have an iPhone 4 why don't you just test it out?

boltjames
Jun 24, 2010, 04:19 PM
If you have an iPhone 4 why don't you just test it out?

Because I'm at work.

BJ

zedsdead
Jun 24, 2010, 05:08 PM
They won't. You will have to bring it into iMovie and transcode it to 960x540. The Apple TV cannot handle 30fps at 720p.

boltjames
Jun 24, 2010, 05:52 PM
They won't. You will have to bring it into iMovie and transcode it to 960x540. The Apple TV cannot handle 30fps at 720p.

Hold on: Are you saying that I can't use an iPhone 4 to create HD home movies that I can watch on my Apple TV?

I don't have iMovie, and isn't 960x540 non-HD?

BJ

jeffreyropp
Jun 24, 2010, 06:13 PM
Video formats supported

H.264 and protected H.264 (from iTunes Store): Up to 5 Mbps, Progressive Main Profile (CAVLC) with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps (maximum resolution: 1280 by 720 pixels at 24 fps, 960 by 540 pixels at 30 fps) in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

iTunes Store purchased video: 320 by 240 pixels, 640 by 480 pixels, 720 by 480 pixels (anamorphic), or high-definition 720p

MPEG-4: Up to 3 Mbps, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps (maximum resolution: 720 by 432 pixels at 30 fps) in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html

I'll bet there are different recording options.

jaw04005
Jun 24, 2010, 06:37 PM
The new iPhone 4 has a medium quality 540p export option that's compatible with Apple TV. Not HD, but close enough for most people.

Hopefully, we'll get a new Apple TV in the fall or at least a software update to support 30 fps.

boltjames
Jun 24, 2010, 07:03 PM
Video formats supported

H.264 and protected H.264 (from iTunes Store): Up to 5 Mbps, Progressive Main Profile (CAVLC) with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps (maximum resolution: 1280 by 720 pixels at 24 fps, 960 by 540 pixels at 30 fps) in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

iTunes Store purchased video: 320 by 240 pixels, 640 by 480 pixels, 720 by 480 pixels (anamorphic), or high-definition 720p

MPEG-4: Up to 3 Mbps, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps (maximum resolution: 720 by 432 pixels at 30 fps) in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats

http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html

I'll bet there are different recording options.

The new iPhone 4 has a medium quality 540p export option that's compatible with Apple TV. Not HD, but close enough for most people.

Hopefully, we'll get a new Apple TV in the fall or at least a software update to support 30 fps.

Thank you both for your help.

Let's pretend that there is no Apple TV of the Future that will support 720p/30. Can you tell me what product I can purchase right now that will allow me to watch my beautiful 720p/30 HD iP4 video on my 1080p LCD HDTV?

My dream (silly me) was that I'd shoot my 720p/30 HD, sync to iTunes, BOOM, there are my home movies of the kids easily archived. Maybe hit 'em with the mobile version of iMovie and make 'em look professional even. Can you help me to a somewhat similar solution that doesn't involve any encoding? If I need to purchase another $300 set top box of sorts, I'll do it. I just want an easy way to shoot HD home movies and watch them on my HDTV. Help.

TIA

BJ

tommylotto
Jun 24, 2010, 07:45 PM
Not sure, but iPhone 4 might allow you to record at 24fps. If so, the video would play on the AppleTV as easily as you want. I don't get my iPhone until 7/2, so I can't tell you for sure.

boltjames
Jun 24, 2010, 08:22 PM
Not sure, but iPhone 4 might allow you to record at 24fps. If so, the video would play on the AppleTV as easily as you want. I don't get my iPhone until 7/2, so I can't tell you for sure.

It has no settings at all. You merely point and shoot. At the point of getting the video off the phone, you can email or upload to the likes of MobileMe at which point the resolution is dumbed-down for ease of transport. To get the raw HD files off the easiest thing to do is navigate into the folder they live in and drag/drop them out.

BJ

Billy Boo Bob
Jun 24, 2010, 08:38 PM
You'd think they would have set up an option for recording at 24 fps so people could do just what this guy wants. This could even be fixed with a software update. Or at least let iTunes do a "Convert to ATV" option of changing frame rate and leaving the resolution instead of only letting you dumb down the resolution, keeping the 30 fps rate.

wmealer
Jun 24, 2010, 08:47 PM
The fact that iPhone 4's 720p video is too much for the current ATV should tell you the ATV to this point truly has been a "hobby." I expect the OP's wishes to come true when the revised ATV is released in it's non-hobby version, whenever that may be.

It would be backwards for Apple to provide a 24fps option on iPhone 4, just to accommodate a device that they've never taken seriously in the first place.

CWallace
Jun 24, 2010, 09:26 PM
Let's pretend that there is no Apple TV of the Future that will support 720p/30. Can you tell me what product I can purchase right now that will allow me to watch my beautiful 720p/30 HD iP4 video on my 1080p LCD HDTV?

The Mac Mini?

That will be my choice come September if there is no :apple:tv update.

boltjames
Jun 25, 2010, 06:12 PM
The fact that iPhone 4's 720p video is too much for the current ATV should tell you the ATV to this point truly has been a "hobby." I expect the OP's wishes to come true when the revised ATV is released in it's non-hobby version, whenever that may be.

It would be backwards for Apple to provide a 24fps option on iPhone 4, just to accommodate a device that they've never taken seriously in the first place.

Is there an HDMI video cable that can output the 720/30 HD from the iP4 directly into my HDTV?

BJ

smoked
Jun 26, 2010, 09:37 AM
I could never get my :apple:Tv to play MOV files. I used Handbrake to convert the ip4 video to mp4 using the :apple:Tv preset. Looked wonderful!

(it was a 720p iMovie project done on the iPhone)