Linux is the same an Mac.

[atif.muhammad]

isnt the Linux the same as the Mac OSX?

Linux is an imitation of UNIX
Mac OSX is built on UNIX

Mac OSX Panther is the GUI for UNIX
KDE,GNOME etc. are the GUI for LINUX


so technically, that means that we can install Linux on the Apple machines and there is nothing special about the Apple OSX.

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.

[Sun Baked]

isnt the Linux the same as the Mac OSX?

Linux is an imitation of UNIX
Mac OSX is built on UNIX

Mac OSX Panther is the GUI for UNIX
KDE,GNOME etc. are the GUI for LINUX


so technically, that means that we can install Linux on the Apple machines and there is nothing special about the Apple OSX.

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.Based on your assumptions...

A Hyundai is a internal combustion vehicle like a Bently, so why pay $235,000 for a Bently when a $16,000 Hyundai will work just as well.

It's called user experience... sometimes you have to pay a little more for the luxury items that are included with the package.

---

But why buy a Apple HW when there are white-box Linux PPC computers?

Because the Linux PPCs are generations behind the Apple HW, just like the SW.

[agreenster]

You can install YellowDog Linux on a Mac pretty simply.

The real question is...

Why?

[MrMacMan]

You can install YellowDog Linux on a Mac pretty simply.

The real question is...

Why?

hahaha.

But yeah there are a few distro's of linux on mac, they have no software... sooo doesn't make much sense... whatever. :o

[jaromski]

isnt the Linux the same as the Mac OSX?

Linux is an imitation of UNIX
Mac OSX is built on UNIX

Mac OSX Panther is the GUI for UNIX
KDE,GNOME etc. are the GUI for LINUX


so technically, that means that we can install Linux on the Apple machines and there is nothing special about the Apple OSX.

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.

i agree with you 100%, fedora should be free. actually redhat should pay its fedora userbase/community to use that piece of ****.

some computer users would rather spend the majority of their time using their computers than configuring, debugging, or maintaining their systems. i know it sounds forward-thinking, but trust me, it works.

mac and linux are different trunks on the unix tree. mac came down from the bsd trunk and linus torvalds rolled his own unix-like kernel in linux. but they co-oped with the FSF (free software fanatics) for all the system level libs and C compiler. well that was back in the early days, now there is more stuff available, hell even intel has a linux compiler now. pretty spiffy.

i think linux is wonderful. you can cobble together a really custom rig to do most anything you need. file server, web server, firewall, music server, home desktop, etc. but you will always pay a price to use linux. it is called, configuration and debugging HELL. sure there are some nice distros that have "very few" sharp edges but it has been my experience that they are slow and bloated, kinda like Microsoft Windows. you have to really get into the internals of linux, get dirty and customize it to really leverage its advantages fully.

that was fine and wonderful back in college. but now i am tired. i am cranky. i don't want to muck with config files or find the bug(s) in some kernel driver source code or application code. at some point i just want to read my e-mail, surf my news sites, and listen to my music. cue mac here.

to each their own i suppose, and sometimes you have to figure out your own deal, your own path. so it boils down to this...

where do you want to go today?

ahahahaha

jaromski

[AmigoMac]

Right place to do the wrong observation... I liked better the "Mac os x on x86" thread ...

[Nermal]

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.

Because there are no Linux versions of:

iTunes
iPhoto
Word
Excel
Halo
Dreamweaver
OmniGraffle
Knights of the Old Republic
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
World of Warcraft
... and plenty of others.

[LeeTom]

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.

Okay... Actually try OS X for a while, then come back and you'll answer that question yourself.

Lee Tom

[cluthz]

hahaha.

But yeah there are a few distro's of linux on mac, they have no software... sooo doesn't make much sense... whatever. :o

Well, wrong.
You won't find many precompiled binaries, but almost all linux software is opensource. And then its only to build it.. configure, make, make install ..
Also, Yellowdog comes with very much software these days..

But its no use since you can run, those apps in x11..

[atif.muhammad]

Because there are no Linux versions of:

iTunes
iPhoto
Word
Excel
Halo
Dreamweaver
OmniGraffle
Knights of the Old Republic
Battlefield 1942
Call of Duty
World of Warcraft
... and plenty of others.

of course you can have all of that on Linux. I've got Crossover Office Professional and I use Microsoft Office, Starcraft on Linux. I'm sure Halo won't be a problem either.

[russed]

os x = userfriendly and a joy to use
linux = a pain in the a**, how can they make it so hard to install something oh and it doesnt look anywhere near as nice

[Sun Baked]

os x = userfriendly and a joy to use
linux = a pain in the a**, how can they make it so hard to install something oh and it doesnt look anywhere near as niceDon't you mean...

os x = pre-assembled furniture
linux = box of wood, elmer's glue, readme file with plans, and a swiss army knife

[iMeowbot]

linux = box of wood, elmer's glue, readme file with plans, and a swiss army knife
And a distinct lack of decent software. wine doesn't really count for that much, because it's not cross-architecture, and it doesn't even work very well unless you have Windows installed to get at Microsoft DLLs.

[russed]

Don't you mean...

os x = pre-assembled furniture
linux = box of wood, elmer's glue, readme file with plans, and a swiss army knife

no

os x = nice to use whether you know what you are doing or not and lots of possibilities if you do also
linux = if you know a lot its fine, if you know quite a bit or less you stand no chance, user friendly it is not and that is where its problems lie. they need to settle on one gui and one or two distros if it is to become anywhere near to being a viable alternative

[5300cs]

Mac OSX Panther is the GUI for UNIX
KDE,GNOME etc. are the GUI for LINUX

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.

KDE & Gnome aren't as polished and nice as Aqua is.




...let's see if anyone jumps on me for saying that........

[russed]

KDE & Gnome aren't as polished and nice as Aqua is.




...let's see if anyone jumps on me for saying that........

i would say that it is a bit of an undersatement!
:)

[jsw]

so technically, that means that we can install Linux on the Apple machines and there is nothing special about the Apple OSX.

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.
Well, let's see here. If you buy a new Mac, it comes with the OS installed. If you buy an older Mac onto which you could consider installing OS X, then there's a 100% chance that you could have bought a PC with more horsepower cheaper - so you should be installing Linux on that, not the Mac you shouldn't have bought.

If you get an older Mac for free which could run Panther, then, yes, in that case you'd be able to save money by installing Linux. Unless, of course, you value your time any, in which case the extra time spent trying to get a Linux distro up and running makes it "cost" more than Panther - which will run you less than a hundred pounds anyway.

[russed]

isnt the Linux the same as the Mac OSX?

Linux is an imitation of UNIX
Mac OSX is built on UNIX

Mac OSX Panther is the GUI for UNIX
KDE,GNOME etc. are the GUI for LINUX


so technically, that means that we can install Linux on the Apple machines and there is nothing special about the Apple OSX.

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.

no offence, but i have seen that you have only been around here for a few days and all of your posts have either been bashing apple or saying how great linux is. shouldnt you be in a linux forum?

[yellow]

Mac OSX Panther is the GUI for UNIX


No, Aqua is the GUI windowmanager for Darwin, which is the *NIX behind OS X.

Linux relies upon X11, therefore all apps have to be command line or X11. Mac OS X apps can be command line, Aqua, or X11.

Good luck running Final Cut Pro etc on Linux.

[5300cs]

i would say that it is a bit of an undersatement!
:)

Let me elaborate then :D

In OS X I know where to find the preferences for all my apps, because it's always in the same place. In Linux it can be in any number of places (like a certain popular OS whose name I don't feel like typing right now.) Icons don't always make a lot of sense to me at first glance like they should. Also, I've the preferences in KDE to be a disaster; they're laid out totally hap-hazardly over a series of menus that make it unessessarily confusing.

I do like Linux though. I was a Linux user (Mandrake then Debian) before coming to OS X :) :cool:

[Sun Baked]

no offence, but i have seen that you have only been around here for a few days and all of your posts have either been bashing apple or saying how great linux is. shouldnt you be in a linux forum?Considering he posted this... you have made a fantastic point. im a 15yr old student in the UK. I had my Prefect badge taken off me ...Which probably means he was laughed off all the adult chat rooms, and came here because he was bored. :rolleyes:

Definitely not one of the younger crowd that actually can act mature, like some of the other teens we have.

They don't last long with these type of threads.

[edesignuk]

isnt the Linux the same as the Mac OSX?

Linux is an imitation of UNIX
Mac OSX is built on UNIX

Mac OSX Panther is the GUI for UNIX
KDE,GNOME etc. are the GUI for LINUX


so technically, that means that we can install Linux on the Apple machines and there is nothing special about the Apple OSX.

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.
http://upload.yo-momma.net/uploads/macros/incorrect.jpg

This thread is hysterical http://upload.edesignuk.net/uploaded_data/smilies/rollinglaugh.gif, there really isn't much more to say other than that, that hasn't already been said.

[BornAgainMac]

Linux is a hard sell for the Mac for me. I feel like I am using a future version of Linux by just using Panther.

Linux is appealing on Intel because of the alternatives to Linux on Intel and the price of the hardware is dirt cheap.

[makisushi]

of course you can have all of that on Linux. I've got Crossover Office Professional and I use Microsoft Office, Starcraft on Linux. I'm sure Halo won't be a problem either.

Well, good for you, troll.

How about you just use linux and be happy in your own life, and let us use OSX and be happy in our lives?

[themadchemist]

This is chiefly predicated on the indefensible position that all operating systems that run are equal and all GUIs that exist are the same...I'm not even going to bother trying to explain why that's not the case...I never thought I would have to.

[atif.muhammad]

i only posted a thread for some discussion. you lot really got all stressed up about it.
relax its only a forum

[edesignuk]

i only posted a thread for some discussion. you lot really got all stressed up about it.
relax its only a forumSo you come to a Mac forum, saying that you think that Linux and OS X are the same, and expect everyone to just go along with it?

LOL!

[russed]

i only posted a thread for some discussion. you lot really got all stressed up about it.
relax its only a forum

as i said before. why are you not on a linux forum if you love it so much. most of your posts have been about linux. if you cant see the difference between linux and os x you must be a three legged banana

[edesignuk]

as i said before. why are you not on a linux forum if you love it so much. most of your posts have been about linux. if you cant see the difference between linux and os x you must be a three legged bananaoddly enough, apparently (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=95508) he/she wants an iBook now :confused:

[russed]

oddly enough, apparently (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=95508) he/she wants an iBook now :confused:

does he want to run linux on it? what is this person on. he changes his ideas all the time?


mmm. like your 'tar though

[applemacdude]

Let Me Elaborate (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/open.html)

[russed]

Let Me Elaborate (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/open.html)

i like it!

[edesignuk]

Let Me Elaborate (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/open.html)http://upload.edesignuk.net/uploaded_data/smilies/rollinglaugh.gifhttp://upload.edesignuk.net/uploaded_data/smilies/rollinglaugh.gifhttp://upload.edesignuk.net/uploaded_data/smilies/rollinglaugh.gifhttp://upload.edesignuk.net/uploaded_data/smilies/rollinglaugh.gif

[Sun Baked]

http://forums.macrumors.com/image.php?u=4465&dateline=1098865214

http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18488&stc=1

[russed]

http://forums.macrumors.com/image.php?u=4465&dateline=1098865214

http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18488&stc=1


u cant hit her!

she needs stroking! and loving!

[edesignuk]

Neither of you will do any such thing! :p

Anyway, if you wanna talk about it, probably best to move it over to this (http://tinyurl.com/5r43l) thread :)

[russed]

Neither of you will do any such thing! :p

Anyway, if you wanna talk about it, probably best to move it over to this (http://tinyurl.com/5r43l) thread :)


right have continued it there! (by the way, its rather odd having such a beautifl woman as your avatar as i think of you as her - quite worrying!)

anyway, where has the cause of this thread gone and his linux loving? stick up for yourself and your view to be bashed!

[Punani]

isnt the Linux the same as the Mac OSX?

Linux is an imitation of UNIX
Mac OSX is built on UNIX

Mac OSX Panther is the GUI for UNIX
KDE,GNOME etc. are the GUI for LINUX


so technically, that means that we can install Linux on the Apple machines and there is nothing special about the Apple OSX.

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.I wish you would at least check your facts, or at least pretend to know something. As your statement doesn't flow logically.

They're both Unix-like derivatives. Darwin, just happens to be a little more closely related to the the source, but they both boot like a Unix, run like a Unix, and crash like a Unix. And I know you're aware, but it seems a half-baked commentary.

Hmm...rm -rf /...wait...no...where'd my files go? :eek:


Moving along, I have to ask why it has taken 5 iterations of OS X for Apple to finally add HFS+ aware Unix utilities by default...the existence of CpMac, MvMac, etc. (When did they even show up?) is not a reason to have not included compatible utilities by the public beta 4 years ago and tout the Unix base of the system.

Also, could someone explain why Carbon and Cocoa in Tiger aren't 64-bit in Tiger, and what kind of impact this really has? I believe it's only a memory issue, but I'd like to know for sure.

[yellow]

the existence of CpMac, MvMac, etc. (When did they even show up?)

October 6th, 2001. As part of the Dev Tools.

[atif.muhammad]

the only reason i like linux at the moment is because i havent got an iBook. when i get the iBook with OSX on it, i'll happily ditch all pcs.

[Mechcozmo]

the only reason i like linux at the moment is because i havent got an iBook. when i get the iBook with OSX on it, i'll happily ditch all pcs.

**ahem**troll**cough**

So you bash (pun intended) OS X only because you do not have it yet... :confused:

I really don't get it.

[atif.muhammad]

i dont bash the OSX. i just think that both OSX and Linux have roots from the same OS, Unix. and its true isnt it?

[paxtonandrew]

As far as i know Linux = Linux Is Not UniX.

We have to stop feeding the trolls. They are just not worth it. If he feels that he must bash Mac OsX because he doesn't have it, he needs to have a look at himself in the mirror, and realize that Mac OsX is better than all distros of any other Operating System (including Windoze, no question)

Lets just ignore the troll and move on to more pressing issues, like...

Release dates for Tiger
or
Release dated for a PowerBook G5
or
The release of 10.3.6

[Mechcozmo]

isnt the Linux the same as the Mac OSX?

Linux is an imitation of UNIX
Mac OSX is built on UNIX

Mac OSX Panther is the GUI for UNIX
KDE,GNOME etc. are the GUI for LINUX


so technically, that means that we can install Linux on the Apple machines and there is nothing special about the Apple OSX.

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.

i dont bash the OSX. i just think that both OSX and Linux have roots from the same OS, Unix. and its true isnt it?

Hmm. Nothing special about OS X...why pay 100 pounds ( :confused: ) for Panther.... yup. No bashing there. :p

Please kill this thread. I need to photoshop something... a do not feed the trolls sign....

[iMeowbot]

i dont bash the OSX. i just think that both OSX and Linux have roots from the same OS, Unix. and its true isnt it?
Only in a superficial way. Both kernels were developed in a very different way from the original Unix family. Both did add APIs so that they would mimic Unix, so from a command prompt as an end user you might not notice the differences. Programmers and sysadmins will see that there are very different things happening under the covers.

[Punani]

Only in a superficial way. Both kernels were developed in a very different way from the original Unix family. Both did add APIs so that they would mimic Unix, so from a command prompt as an end user you might not notice the differences. Programmers and sysadmins will see that there are very different things happening under the covers.Linux was a student project of Linus Torvalds that he happened to give away. It uses System V type conventions, such as init style scripts.

Darwin is a fork of the FreeBSD project that uses the BSD-4.4 Lite code, and BSD began from a copy of System V that Ken Thompson brought from Bell Labs to his alma mater, Cal. So, we are sans Unix certification, more "Unix" than Linux.

I think that you are right in saying that there are differences in the various Unices, as one cannot find /dev/audio in Mac OS X (I was bored one day and wanted to "cat /mach_kernel > /dev/audio"), but there is more that is similar than different. POSIX compliance is a joke though, Windows qualifies under it as far as I know.

[Sun Baked]

http://www.apple.com/opensource/

[iMeowbot]

Linux was a student project of Linus Torvalds that he happened to give away. It uses System V type conventions, such as init style scripts.
init stuff is more a userland thing, very little really has to do with the kernel. For example, there are Linux systems that use BSD-style init, SysV-style init, and various hybrid arrangements.

Apart from the kernel, the core libraries and utilities used by most all Linux distributions are lifted directly from the GNU system, which was written entirely independently of Unix.

Darwin is a fork of the FreeBSD project
No. The Darwin kernel is a fork of CMU Mach. NeXT chose to use a great many BSD utilities and libraries around Mach, and they developed a modified GNU C compiler to build it all (mainly consisting of the ObjC extensions).

When NeXTStep kernel and Unix personality were renamed to Darwin, the older Berkeley userland was gradually replaced with newer counterparts borrowed largely from the FreeBSD fork, but also coming from other systems.

that uses the BSD-4.4 Lite code, and BSD began from a copy of System V that Ken Thompson brought from Bell Labs to his alma mater, Cal. So, we are sans Unix certification, more "Unix" than Linux.
BSD was not derived from SysV, its origins were in Unix 32V (which was basically 7th Edition). By the time 4.4BSD arrived, there was essentially no AT&T code left (and there was a rather lengthy and nasty legal battle that determined this fact).

Indeed, SysV inherited a substantial amount of code from Berkeley, rather than the other way around. 7th ed./V32 was a rather tiny and primitive system in comparison to the original AT&T example.

I think that you are right in saying that there are differences in the various Unices, as one cannot find /dev/audio in Mac OS X (I was bored one day and wanted to "cat /mach_kernel > /dev/audio"), but there is more that is similar than different. POSIX compliance is a joke though, Windows qualifies under it as far as I know.

The /dev tree is a higher-level abstraction, an example of the compatibility layering I wrote about earlier. The actual device driver architecture a few layers beneath that is very different between Unix, Linux and especially Darwin. Memory and process management are other areas where you will find significant differences. These systems simply aren't put together the same way.

Windows as shipped doesn't meet POSIX (but there are several library packages that can provide it), and POSIX is not the definition of a Unix system by any stretch of the imagination. For that, you need to meet SUS (and Darwin doesn't quite do that).

[Punani]

I stand educated, thank you for correcting me iMeowbot, shows what I know! :rolleyes:

[iMeowbot]

Learning about where all this stuff came from was necessary to put some customers at ease. When SCO first started making sweeping claims about owning other people's operating systems, knowing the real family tree became very important.

[themadchemist]

isn't the ant the same as the human?

Ants are descendents of single cellular prokaryotes.
Humans are descendants of single cellular prokaryotes.

Mitochondria are the energy production organelles of most of ants' cells.
Mitochondria are the energy production organelles of most of humans' cells.

[atif.muhammad]

yes i suppose you lot have a good point. i give in. you win.

OSX is better than Linux after all

[russed]

have you suddenly aqquired an ibook to back up your claims? if not i suppose this thread was pointless. argue your claims. why do you suddenly say os x is better?

[5300cs]

I have a strong suspicion that this thread is going to head on down to a place that starts with "W" and ends with "asteland"

[agreenster]

I feel like I am using a future version of Linux by just using Panther.

Felt like it needed a second

[atif.muhammad]

o yea, im really gonna get an iBook in 2 days arent i?
my stupid dad never has any money.
i'll have to get a job after my GCSE's and earn it myself. its a long wait. i went off to PC World and tried the eMac which wasn't bad. i have some concerns over the PB though. because its metal, won't it heat up easily? also, what hardware protection mechanisms are installed in the iBook and PB?

[russed]

o yea, im really gonna get an iBook in 2 days arent i?
my stupid dad never has any money.
i'll have to get a job after my GCSE's and earn it myself. its a long wait. i went off to PC World and tried the eMac which wasn't bad. i have some concerns over the PB though. because its metal, won't it heat up easily? also, what hardware protection mechanisms are installed in the iBook and PB?

i was being sarcastic when i said had you got one. also have you ever heard of the phrase "dont bite the hand that feeds you" so i wouldnt say stuff like that about your dad, i'm sure he wouldnt be too impressed.

if you really want to get one, pc world really isnt the place to go. how abouts the educational discount that apple offer? over the pb, the metal case asts as a big heat sink, so yes it is suppost to get hot but it doenst get too hot. the reason it is suppost to get hot is so that it will dissapate the heat away from the processor and working components.

what do you mean hardware protection mechanisms? on all apple items and probably most computers there will be a slot so you can attach a belkin lock so it wont get lifted as easily.

[fedora]

Read a book about the history of linux like "Rebel code", that may make you understand the diference beetween linux and os x. Try fedora C 2 and then think about the new features we will get in tiger next year, tiger wins hands down for new features this is why we pay for os x

[Mechcozmo]

My new avatar says it all.

[atif.muhammad]

i was being sarcastic when i said had you got one. also have you ever heard of the phrase "dont bite the hand that feeds you" so i wouldnt say stuff like that about your dad, i'm sure he wouldnt be too impressed.

if you really want to get one, pc world really isnt the place to go. how abouts the educational discount that apple offer? over the pb, the metal case asts as a big heat sink, so yes it is suppost to get hot but it doenst get too hot. the reason it is suppost to get hot is so that it will dissapate the heat away from the processor and working components.

what do you mean hardware protection mechanisms? on all apple items and probably most computers there will be a slot so you can attach a belkin lock so it wont get lifted as easily.

im not really gonna buy an iBook from PC World. they are a useless company. the only reason i go there is to look around or try out some of the laptops like i did with the PB and the desktop like eMac.
there is no way i will ever make a purchase from PC World. Macs are meant to be bought from Apple, and thats the way it will be.

actually, i will try reading Rebel Code, it seems like an interesting book.

Now I'm going to make another comment which may spark some more controversy: Dont you think that the current Linux is equilvalent to something like the 1986 versions of Mac OS?

Come on, fight me over this statement if you want. I will stick by my comments.

[risc]

isnt the Linux the same as the Mac OSX?

Linux is an imitation of UNIX
Mac OSX is built on UNIX

Mac OSX Panther is the GUI for UNIX
KDE,GNOME etc. are the GUI for LINUX


so technically, that means that we can install Linux on the Apple machines and there is nothing special about the Apple OSX.

Why pay 100 pounds for Panther when you can get Fedora free.

I'd been using GNU/Linux and *BSD since 1994 before I started using Panther last November. Although this is an obvious troll I'll bite.

After 9 years of using x86 open source UNIX clones as my primary OS I got sick and tired of the dodgy thrown together feel of the OSes, the fact they seemed to be getting more apps (how many text editors do I need?), but nothing original, and still no real integration. My main problem with Linux other than the lack of a fully integrated desktop was the fact things even now just feel half done. OS X feels like a completed OS, the integration is there, the proprietry apps are there (if you need them, I've never understood this it has to be open source mentality), back in 1998/99 with companies like Loki porting commercial games for Linux I really thought it had a hope on the desktop, but Loki died and that stopped right there. To me Linux is like the little OS that could of, and OS X is like the OS that DID!

So for me the idea of a complete UNIX like OS with all the proprietry apps, games, open source tools, and the full desktop integration including X11 running along side Aqua is just so much better than Linux.

As of yet I haven't found 1 thing that I can't do on OS X (as a desktop user, at the command line both OSes feel the same to me - once you get passed the BSD vs GNU vibe) that I could do on Linux, the other side though is completely obvious my GF uses Linux everyday and I've been trying to get her to buy a Mac for months now because I've just got sick and tired of not being able to do something, or battling for hours to do something that I can do in OS X in a second or 2. Yes box in the corner running Debian I mean you! I spent hours last night trying to get QT, GTK+, and GTK2 apps to look roughly the same. In the end I gave up with it kind of looking right but still feeling completely wrong to me, the primary HDD failed on that box last night, and even though installing Linux is easy enough getting it to what I'd consider a usable state takes way too long!

Don't get me wrong Linux is a nice enough OS, but it isn't even close to being ready for general use, and the fact that people always bring up wine or crossover, etc for proprietry apps/games just says it all really.

[yellow]

Dont you think that the current Linux is equilvalent to something like the 1986 versions of Mac OS?

Where are you getting that idea from? They are nothing a like.

[russed]

im not really gonna buy an iBook from PC World. they are a useless company. the only reason i go there is to look around or try out some of the laptops like i did with the PB and the desktop like eMac.
there is no way i will ever make a purchase from PC World. Macs are meant to be bought from Apple, and thats the way it will be.

actually, i will try reading Rebel Code, it seems like an interesting book.

Now I'm going to make another comment which may spark some more controversy: Dont you think that the current Linux is equilvalent to something like the 1986 versions of Mac OS?

Come on, fight me over this statement if you want. I will stick by my comments.

1) i was only offering advice about pc world there you go. you obviously dontr appear to be the most friendly person around here

2)you comment was only a comment, you are not arguing something as you merely stated something. therefore you are not arguing a case to defend. therefore you have nothing to fight over.

3) i would probably say that linux is better than the 1986 version of mac. what a stupid statement. that is like saying that windows 3.1 is like linux. what a pile of rubbish. are you just trying to make a fool of yourself?

[solvs]

Perhaps you aren't a troll, but we in the Mac community have a bit of a persecution complex because of people coming in and bashing Macs for no reason. Perhaps if you had worded your comments sightly differently, you would not be met with such hostility.

Such as: hey guys. I've used Linux, but am looking in to getting an iBook. Is OS X really that much better, and worth the 100 clams if I were to buy it. Then we would have helped you instead of making fun of you. We'll still help you now, if you play nice. But we also reserve the right to make fun of you. I believe if you stick around, it would be worth it, even with the ribbing.

BTW, I think you will be happy with the iBook. OS X is what Linux should be. And if you still have apps for *nix, as mentioned you can run X11. Just be aware that PowerPC does not = x86.

[themadchemist]

Where are you getting that idea from? They are nothing a like.

I think atif is trying to ingratiate himself with us after the previous controversy.

Atif: I'm not as much annoyed because you knocked OS X as I am because you knocked it without any real justification or defense. Similarly, to knock Linux without any justification is a bit perturbing, although, because of my bias, not as perturbing as knocking OS X.

[Sun Baked]

...Now I'm going to make another comment which may spark some more controversy: Dont you think that the current Linux is equilvalent to something like the 1986 versions of Mac OS?

Come on, fight me over this statement if you want. I will stick by my comments.You are starting to develop a pattern here atif.muhammad... please read.

Let's recap the rules (aka Read this or risk getting Banned) (http://forums.macrumors.com/announcement.php?f=5)

Since the pattern you are developing is one of a troll.

[edesignuk]

Dont you think that the current Linux is equilvalent to something like the 1986 versions of Mac OS?
In short, No. Now to the more important question, what exactly is wrong with you?? http://upload.edesignuk.net/uploaded_data/smilies/wtf.gif

[atif.muhammad]

lets just end this thread here. this is going to wasteland

[russed]

lets just end this thread here. this is going to wasteland

bravo, that is the best thing that has been said on here!