Radeon HD 5800 and MacPro

[The Rominator]

coolio doodio

ima gona shred sum games nao yo


actually scratch my earlier report, 5870 gives output on both ports without x3000. Dvi to Hdmi also works. Just no QECI.

atyinit from #70, my binimage

With the ATY from #70, if it works like mine, the blue screen will EVENTUALLY (a few minutes) break into "The Desktop" which will be a mass of squares. AT a glacial pace, one square after another will be re-drawn with noisy black mess.

The one I emailed was an attempt to Init the card a completely other way. Netkas spent hours redoing it but when he got issues resolved, still no luck.

Where are those 10.6.5 seeds?

[Cindori]

the atyinit from your mail results in black screen on 5870. this is still without x3000

[strausd]

So, did anyone ever find unreleased drivers for the 4870 right before it came out with the 2009 MP? If so, how long after the find were they available? If not, well, crap.

[enigma99a]

When I copied over the drivers to S/L/E, I now get a KP.

It doesn't seem to matter if ATY_INT is in there or not. Seems to be a dependency issue, but it doesn't make sense. Ideas? Please help :D

Oh, I'm running a hack on 10.6.4

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7089/img0035c.jpg

[The Rominator]

Interesting info.

I am going to have a look to see if those files have newer versions in the Mini disk image we found rest of drivers on.

It would make sense that if those files don't have references to new cards/drivers, they would not know how to deal with.

Unfortunately, the fact that several folks have perfectly running 5870s on Hacks seems to say that ultimately these files aren't crucial to success.

SInce you have a Hack, you should post at InsanelyMac. Your luck will be better there.

Meanwhile, back at my 10th floor tenement, I couldn't STAND not knowing if that AGPM / MacPro 4,1 thing was important. So, I stuffed BOTH hands down the couch cushions, grabbed ALL of the change I could grab, and bought a 4,1 Mac Pro.

And no, it didn't make any stinking difference. Still runs EXACTLY the same, but now IOReg Explorer actually shows BOTH of the control strings, the ones my 1,1 showed, and the ones the 4,1 hack showed.

If Netkas can think of any 1,1 vs 4,1 tests that might help, I'll do them.

[abccba]

When I copied over the drivers to S/L/E, I now get a KP.

It doesn't seem to matter if ATY_INT is in there or not. Seems to be a dependency issue, but it doesn't make sense. Ideas? Please help :D

Oh, I'm running a hack on 10.6.4

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7089/img0035c.jpg

I get the exact same KP on a legit MP....

[peskaa]

Meanwhile, back at my 10th floor tenement, I couldn't STAND not knowing if that AGPM / MacPro 4,1 thing was important. So, I stuffed BOTH hands down the couch cushions, grabbed ALL of the change I could grab, and bought a 4,1 Mac Pro. .
You bought a new MP just to test this? You're insane! Why didn't you get a cheaper Quad too?

[Cindori]

You bought a new MP just to test this? You're insane! Why didn't you get a cheaper Quad too?

bcoz teh dude wants his cypress going yo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddDVWXNsV9U

[antonenright]

Thanks to everyone for getting ATI5xxx support moving so quickly.

My HD5850 is working fine with one major issue. The displayport won't output anything and it's where my main monitor goes (Apple Cinema Display with adapter from mini-dp to displayport).

I've tried Vervet, Eulemur and Uakari and none of these will wake up the displayport with the current drivers. Eulemur won't output anything, and Vervet and Uakari only talk to the main DVI port.

Does anyone have any ideas about how to get the displayport output going ? either alone or with a DVI monitor also connected ?

Is this something that later drivers might fix ? should I try more framebuffers, or other hackery ?

Edit: This is a hackintosh btw
Anton

[Cindori]

mac or hack?

[antonenright]

Sorry, its hackintosh

[The Rominator]

Does anyone have any ideas about how to get the displayport output going ? either alone or with a DVI monitor also connected ?

Is this something that later drivers might fix ? should I try more framebuffers, or other hackery ?

Edit: This is a hackintosh btw
Anton

Tim to try different framebuffers

go down the list and switch out all 6 or 7 instances of each name and keep records of which ports work.

Quite often having a DVI to VGA adapter on one DVI port will enable one of the other digital ports. Ideally you would have 2 or or 3 of same monitor. Frequently the EDID doesn't get matched to port it actually got read from.

So try each name out, but try different combos of ports, whatever you can do. But do try each port via DVI and then plug in a DVI to VGA adapter. Can be Apple's or a cheapy. Just has to trigger "Hot Plug Detect"

[Cindori]

Lol, AMD just confirmed Radeon 6000 series is coming in a few months. So much for mac pro getting in on the latest graphics.



"In the second half of the year, we expect GPU demand to remain healthy and supply constraints to ease. We remain on track to bolster our GPU leadership with the introduction of our second generation DX11 graphics products, later this year."

[peskaa]

Lol, AMD just confirmed Radeon 6000 series is coming in a few months. So much for mac pro getting in on the latest graphics.



"In the second half of the year, we expect GPU demand to remain healthy and supply constraints to ease. We remain on track to bolster our GPU leadership with the introduction of our second generation DX11 graphics products, later this year."

I doubt it is the 6000 series, but a mid-life refresh of the 5000s. Expect things like the 5875...

[Cindori]

nope, next generation, HD 6000.

"ATI’s add-in-card partner, Hightech Information System, better known as HIS, has revealed knowledge of the ATI Radeon HD 6000 series (thought to be codenamed Southern Islands) launch, saying that the next-gen GPUs will be due out by Q4 2010, and that they would follow with their own partner cards in Q1 2011."

[Tesseract]

Lol, AMD just confirmed Radeon 6000 series is coming in a few months. So much for mac pro getting in on the latest graphics.

"In the second half of the year, we expect GPU demand to remain healthy and supply constraints to ease. We remain on track to bolster our GPU leadership with the introduction of our second generation DX11 graphics products, later this year."

The earth would explode if Apple ever included anything other than a year-old graphics card in their products.

Anyways, it will be interesting to see what kind of hardware the 6000 series is, considering all of the rumors (RUMORS, mind you! RUMORS!!11!) saying that the 6000 series will just be a slight tweaking of the 5000s. Plus... the apparent fact that the 6000s will be released sometime later this year, but the 28nm boards won't be ready until 2011.

[Cindori]

its 32nm

[Fiete5401]

its 32nm

Radeon 6000 will be 40 nm and just a minor step:
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/graphics/radeon-hd-6000-is-a-minor-improvement
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Radeon-HD-6000-Series-Is-Just-a-Tweaked-HD-5000-148081.shtml

[Cindori]

you are right and I am wrong





"nApoleon said R9xx chip should be the time to tape out at 40nm node,less stream processors than Cypress,performance target is 10%-20% higher than GTX480.There are some changes in architecture,but it's not a totally new architecture."

[Fiete5401]

"nApoleon said R9xx chip should be the time to tape out at 40nm node,less stream processors than Cypress,performance target is 10%-20% higher than GTX480.There are some changes in architecture,but it's not a totally new architecture."

Looks like a marketing release and nothing really to worry about when the MP will get 5000 series.

[The Rominator]

Looks like a marketing release and nothing really to worry about when the MP will get 5000 series.

Something tells me we WILL worry about it.

Sounds like equivalent of the 4870 moving to 4890. A double edged sword for us. Slightly faster once flashed for Mac Pro, but INFINITELY more bother.

I look forward to the (hopefully) coming day when I can use a 5870 in either of my Pros, but it will stink if just as we figure out 5870, the 5890/6xxx equiv shows up and the remaining 5870 start getting cheaper/nonreference parts / boards and we start the who;e "try to keep them working" game again.

Here's hoping we have SOME 5xxx series working BEFORE the replacement hits the market.

[jnickz]

Hello, i am currently having problem with my graphic card, i can only set my display to 1024X768, and other things work just fine.

I installed iatkos s3 v2 (version 10.6.3)

My Spec:
ATI Radeon HD 5800 (ASUS Brand)
Core I7 860 @2.80ghz
4Gb RAM
P7P55D PRO

Any one can give any suggestion?
i have been seeking and digging on many sites but still can't find out the suitable driver for me.... :(

Thank you.....:apple:

[The Rominator]

Hello, i am currently having problem with my graphic card, i can only set my display to 1024X768, and other things work just fine.

I installed iatkos s3 v2 (version 10.6.3)

My Spec:
ATI Radeon HD 5800 (ASUS Brand)
Core I7 860 @2.80ghz
4Gb RAM
P7P55D PRO

Any one can give any suggestion?
i have been seeking and digging on many sites but still can't find out the suitable driver for me.... :(

Thank you.....:apple:

1. No such card as 5800
2. whichever card you have, you probably need to try different frame buffers
3. This is an actual Mac site with not much useful info for Hacksters
4. Insanely Mac or Netkas.org are only places you will likely find useful info.

But you're gonna hafta figure out which card you have first.

[jnickz]

1. No such card as 5800
2. whichever card you have, you probably need to try different frame buffers
3. This is an actual Mac site with not much useful info for Hacksters
4. Insanely Mac or Netkas.org are only places you will likely find useful info.

But you're gonna hafta figure out which card you have first.

Thx for your reply, oh :( then probably i will have to find again .....

[The Rominator]

Thx for your reply, oh :( then probably i will have to find again .....

no idea what you mean

find the card?

find your computer?

find what?

[MacRoysan]

Hi to all of you on this forum!

I have a Sapphire ATI Radeon HD5870 Vapor-X 1GB GDDR5
and a Mac Pro 2008 Early 2x2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xenon 8 GB 800 MHz DDR FB-DIMM Boot ROM-version: MP31.006C.B05
SMC-version (system): 1.25f4
I want to get my Graphic card to work on my Mac (This is a real Mac). Can i help with testing please let me no.

Here is what it shows in about this computer

Typ: Grafikprocessor
Buss: PCIe
Kortplats: Slot-1
PCIe-bandbredd: x16
Tillverkare: ATI (0x1002)
Enhets-ID: 0x6898
Revisions-ID: 0x0000

Regards MacRoysan :apple:

[ghola]

Any word yet with this working some how with an ATI 5870 mobile?
Is there another thread somewhere else?

[Mackilroy]

From what I've read here and on netkas's site it's currently only for desktop chips, not mobile.

[MacRoysan]

Hi to all of you on this forum!

I have a Sapphire ATI Radeon HD5870 Vapor-X 1GB GDDR5
and a Mac Pro 2008 Early 2x2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xenon 8 GB 800 MHz DDR FB-DIMM Boot ROM-version: MP31.006C.B05
SMC-version (system): 1.25f4
I want to get my Graphic card to work on my Mac (This is a real Mac). Can i help with testing please let me no.

Here is what it shows in about this computer

Typ: Grafikprocessor
Buss: PCIe
Kortplats: Slot-1
PCIe-bandbredd: x16
Tillverkare: ATI (0x1002)
Enhets-ID: 0x6898
Revisions-ID: 0x0000

Regards MacRoysan :apple:

Hi!

I manage to get my card to work almost perfectly except for not hawing QE/CI. Can you help me???

ATI Radeon HD 5870:

Styrkretsmodell: ATI Radeon HD 5870
Typ: Grafikprocessor
Buss: PCIe
Kortplats: Slot-1
PCIe-bandbredd: x16
VRAM (totalt): 1024 MB
Tillverkare: ATI (0x1002)
Enhets-ID: 0x6898
Revisions-ID: 0x0000
ROM-revision: 113-B7710C-176
EFI-drivrutinsversion: 01.00.318
Bildskärmar:
SyncMaster:
Upplösning: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
Bildpunktsdjup: 32 bitars färg (ARGB8888)
Huvudbildskärm: Ja
Spegel: Av
Uppkopplad: Ja
Bildskärmskontakt:
Status: Ingen bildskärm ansluten


Regards / MacRoysan

[Cindori]

there is no way to enable qeci yet on mac pro, tyvärr.
it has to do with the netkas initializers, hopefully he can produce a solution

[The Rominator]

Anyone notice that the much vaunted Eyefinity feature is not mentioned anywhere?

In any case, flashing possibilities are pretty good.

Likely that at least 2 @ digital ports will work, and possibly three, though we may once again have a lack of Dual Link ports.

Pix coming.:)

[tezro]

And now for the card to be available...
Hopefully they will release the 5870 as a separate card too.
And even more hopefully, for a reasonable price. Do I think we can all doubt that. Again.

[abccba]

And now for the card to be available...
Hopefully they will release the 5870 as a separate card too.
And even more hopefully, for a reasonable price. Do I think we can all doubt that. Again.

http://www.apple.com/macpro/features/graphics.html

[tezro]

http://www.apple.com/macpro/features/graphics.html

I am missing the idea behind your link?

[zoob]

Anyone notice that the much vaunted Eyefinity feature is not mentioned anywhere?

In any case, flashing possibilities are pretty good.

Likely that at least 2 @ digital ports will work, and possibly three, though we may once again have a lack of Dual Link ports.

Pix coming.:)

Eyefinity seems like it's mainly for gaming on the PC. I doubt this is something that Apple wanted to target. Apple does however heavily advertise the fact that it supports three outputs.

Three outputs is exactly what I'm looking for... I get to slim down from two power hungry cards (GTX285+GTS250) to a single to support my tri-monitor setup! :)

[abccba]

I am missing the idea behind your link?

The 5870 will be available....

[Cocoia]

The 5870 will be available....

I think he doesn't want it to come with the computer attached to it ;). Let's hope for an upgrade kit.

[tezro]

Yeah, well I said "separate". As in not BTO, but for separate buying.

[abccba]

I think he doesn't want it to come with the computer attached to it ;). Let's hope for an upgrade kit.

Ahh I see... my bad, sorry... :D

Well I'm sure we'll be able to flash PC ones.... ;)
Or so I hope, because I got two 5770s lying around here :D

[netkas]

all we need is rom from one of these cards :D

[Cocoia]

Alright, I just read through this whole thread and the comments + article at netkas.org and I'm going to hop into this process with my HD5970 and see if I can get any progress going. I'll be using the same package Spanky used (uses?).

[Spanky Deluxe]

Alright, I just read through this whole thread and the comments + article at netkas.org and I'm going to hop into this process with my HD5970 and see if I can get any progress going. I'll be using the same package Spanky used (uses?).

Yup, still using it. Bear in mind that I'm not using a Mac Pro though. My machine's an i7 hackintosh.

It's still working great though. The only issue I have is that the XFX ROM doesn't have the 2560x1600 VESA resolution built in so when Chameleon loads it displays at a low resolution. Unfortunately this means that when OSX boots up my display isn't initialised - a problem I had with my 4870s too. Unplugging the display and plugging it back in sorts it right out but another workaround I've found is that it does initialise the screen if the screen goes to sleep so for now I've got my screen sleep time set to one minute so all I have to do is wait one minute after booting up and then I can use it.
That may sound like a hassle but I don't reboot much and when I do I usually need to go pee or make a cup of tea anyway and it's much less hassle than having to move my computer to unplug and replug the cable.
The workaround with my 4870s was to have Chameleon start up with the 2560x1600 resolution. That way OSX wouldn't need to change the resolution and I could bypass the issue. This only works with VESA supported resolutions though. I'm hoping that when 5xxx Mac bioses start to float around that the Rominator will be able to create a 5970 bios using them and that they may have the VESA resolution for the 30" ACD.

[Spanky Deluxe]

Rominator, any goodies in here:

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/27/apple-issues-updated-mac-os-x-10-6-4-versions-for-new-imacs/

[MacRoysan]

all we need is rom from one of these cards :D

Hi netcas!

when do you think we can have access to that ROM ?
:) :apple:

[Tesseract]

Hi netcas!

when do you think we can have access to that ROM ?
:) :apple:

Whenever anybody buys one of the cards, and is kind enough to dump the ROM to us.

[jadedgamer]

Whenever anybody buys one of the cards, and is kind enough to dump the ROM to us.

Or whenever someone with a thumb drive waltzes into an apple store...

[cured.not.dried]

Or whenever someone with a thumb drive waltzes into an apple store...

apple stores don't put CTO models on display, especially not mac pros. :(

[ThEMarD]

Heyyo,

I hope this helps, it's an IOReg dump from my hackintosh notebook with ATi 5650 Mobility in it so maybe someday in the future I can have a widescreen resolution on my notebook. :)

At the time I did have aty_int.kext loaded, not the ati5000controller.kext or anything cause those just cause my screen to blank or get stuck on text in verbose mode, or corrupt my display.

[Pressure]

Whenever anybody buys one of the cards, and is kind enough to dump the ROM to us.

That and the new drivers.

[Cindori]

That and the new drivers.

already leaked

[The Rominator]

already leaked

i think he means WORKING ones

btw, new imac image has slightly newer drivers (thanks cpn chunk) but still a no go

it befuddles me that a Hack running OSX can have this work perfectly but not on a real Mac.

perhaps has something to do with when card gets inited?

So close, and yet so F\far

[Cindori]

i think he means WORKING ones

btw, new imac image has slightly newer drivers (thanks cpn chunk) but still a no go

it befuddles me that a Hack running OSX can have this work perfectly but not on a real Mac.

perhaps has something to do with when card gets inited?

So close, and yet so F\far

it was my understanding that the drivers are fully functional but problem with aty init leads to driver not connecting properly


rommy....... look at my email

[Spanky Deluxe]

I couldn't even get my hackintosh to work with my 5970 - kept getting kernel panics at boot. I didn't try for long though since I had work to do so I reloaded the mac mini ones.

[zoob]

Unplugging the display and plugging it back in sorts it right out but another workaround I've found is that it does initialise the screen if the screen goes to sleep so for now I've got my screen sleep time set to one minute so all I have to do is wait one minute after booting up and then I can use it.

I have the same problem. Hot-corner for sleeping the display is faster than waiting 1 min for the screen saver :)

[Cocoia]

I couldn't even get my hackintosh to work with my 5970 - kept getting kernel panics at boot. I didn't try for long though since I had work to do so I reloaded the mac mini ones.

Sorry if I'm being dense, but do you have any idea how to go about initializing the new drivers on a 'genuine' Mac? I've been searching all over but the only reasonable answer I can find is reflashing, while I've read some reports of people running it without doing so (on a non-hack).

[Spanky Deluxe]

I have the same problem. Hot-corner for sleeping the display is faster than waiting 1 min for the screen saver :)

Ha, that is a good idea. Alas I already use all my corners and don't really want to reset them to something else. I did try briefly looking for a way to put the screen to sleep with a terminal command but alas I could find nothing.

Sorry if I'm being dense, but do you have any idea how to go about initializing the new drivers on a 'genuine' Mac? I've been searching all over but the only reasonable answer I can find is reflashing, while I've read some reports of people running it without doing so (on a non-hack).

It's currently not possible. Poor Rominator has been banging his head against a wall for the past few weeks trying to get 5xxx series working on genuine macs. Unfortunately it looks like genuine Mac Pro users will have to wait for the BIOS files to leak. That should start pretty soon though. Once the iMac's 5670 and 5750 rom files get leaked by some willing donors then EFI enabled ROM files with which to flash 5xxx series PC cards should be just around the corner.

[Cocoia]

It's currently not possible. Poor Rominator has been banging his head against a wall for the past few weeks trying to get 5xxx series working on genuine macs. Unfortunately it looks like genuine Mac Pro users will have to wait for the BIOS files to leak. That should start pretty soon though. Once the iMac's 5670 and 5750 rom files get leaked by some willing donors then EFI enabled ROM files with which to flash 5xxx series PC cards should be just around the corner.

Ah, thanks for your eloquent response, Spanky. I guess I'll have to wait :)

[MachineShedFred]

There is currently a seed of a "Snow Leopard Graphics Update" available on ADC right now that has new ATI driver kexts in it, as well as a new OpenGL / OpenCL framework, it would appear:

http://i34.tinypic.com/hrj9lj.png

You're welcome =P