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Joe Fries
Jul 14, 2010, 09:11 PM
Hello MacRumors forums, this is my first post here and I would really like some help building the best home theatre possible.

Some information on my living situation:
I will be moving to an apartment in San Diego for school this fall and am in need of a home theatre/entertainment center. I have somewhere between 700-1000 DVD and Blu-Ray disks that I want to bring with me, digitally, of course. I will also have an Xbox 360 and a PS3. I also own a MBP 15" from spring of 09 and a Dell XPS Desktop PC. I will have dedicated cable internet in my apartment also.

What I want:
I thought I could just purchase a DVD HDD combo player and be done, but upon researching the products available, I found out that none of them suited my needs. I want to be able to store all of my DVDs, music, and photos and play them through my 1080p capable TV using the fewest amount of devices possible.

I threw around the idea of buying a time capsule and apple TV to stream the data wirelessly, but today when I went to the local apple store to talk to the Geniuses about it, they suggested that I invest in a Mac Mini and use that as a server instead. Also, the problem with ATV is that the max output is 720p and I want to view my movies in 1080p. I know there is a solution out there and I have less than a month to find it.

Gaming is a big deal to me also, and I was wondering if the Time capsule/Airport Extreme have any known problems connecting to Xbox 360's and keeping an open NAT.

Budget is pretty much unlimited.
Thanks in advance for the help.



Bye Bye Baby
Jul 15, 2010, 01:41 AM
I have a similar setup.

Content is the elephant in the room in the home theatre question. Where do you put all that stuff and how do you get access to it?

I love my mac mini media server solution with a drobo. The drobo has been great and the ability to grow storage over time has been fantastic. I have 5 TBs of storage at the moment.

I use a TC for sharing my internet connection and it plays well with the PS3, xbox and even the TV. It is hardwired however as I prefer wiring when I can.

The mini is great. It serves my iMac, iPad, MBP, apple TV, iPhone, PS3 and XBOX. It is also good to have a computer on my HDTV for surfing the web.

My library is enormous- almost 1000 movies, 1500 tv episodes and music, books, podcasts etc.

Joe Fries
Jul 15, 2010, 05:04 AM
Thanks for the response. I think I'm going to go with a mac mini with a couple of external drives. I'm going to wait and see if anything groundbreaking/worth waiting for will be released with the new Apple TV though.

randy98mtu
Jul 15, 2010, 06:29 AM
If you've got a month, you better get to ripping. It's going to take longer than that to process 700-1000 movies. :eek:

If you have a Mac, install Plex and start trying things. It's nice, and I like it for the ability to play 1080p movies. And scrubbing your content is great. My only problem with it is I'm apparently just the customer Apple is looking for. I'm pretty well set in the iTunes ecosystem. And in that, Apple TV is still the best, with a few caveats of its own. As I said, Plex is great for scrubbing and it can play your 1080p movies. To me, it's the user interface and integration with iTunes that is lacking. I can't play my DRM stuff. I don't ever find myself playing music on it because I just don't like how it works with the shared library. And I miss the great photo screen saver from the Apple TV. That said, the Apple TV can't do 1080p or DTS audio being stuck with mp4's. The metadata on your movies is only what you put on them. It runs hot and has it's own dropped wireless connection issues. I just find that the overall experience is more convenient and pleasing. I'm really praying this next Apple TV opens up 1080p. If it does that, I'll be done with my Mac Mini and Plex. And FWIW, I seem to be in the minority. Most people around here seem to love Plex. I don't hate it, I just like the iTunes integration of the Apple TV better.

So play with Plex on your current Mac and wait till September. Start making Apple Universal mp4's for your DVD's and hold off on Blurays until after the iPod event.

dlegend
Jul 15, 2010, 06:35 AM
Do you want a copy of the DVD on your hard drive (including menu, extras, etc.) or just the actual movie part? That will make a huge difference in how much hard drive space you'll need.

Also, make sure it's backed up. You don't want to have to do this twice.

Hellhammer
Jul 15, 2010, 06:46 AM
A ripped DVD is about 4GB in size. A Blu-Ray can be over 40GB. That would mean you would need at least 4TB of storage, depending on the amount of Blu-Rays.

I would say your best bet is to use a desktop PC (I'm sure you have one in your house) and use HandBrake to encode the DVDs. That will drop the size to less than 1GB depending on your settings. Menus etc will be excluded though, only the actual film will remain I think. With PC you can easily rip Blu-Rays as well and then encode them into Mac friendly format.

1000 movies will take a long time so make sure you have fast DVD and Blu-Ray drive in your computer. It'll take ages with laptop DVD drive, thus I said use desktop drive as they are faster. You should invest on another DVD drive as well if your PC is fast enough so you can encode two at the same time (or use the Blu-Ray drive to rip)

Joe Fries
Jul 15, 2010, 12:54 PM
I just did a rough count and got 20 Blu Ray disks. I believe I will have my PC up and running soon and I think it has 2 drives that can burn. Should I invest in an eSATA card for my MBP so that I can transfer files faster to the external drive?
I only am interested in the movie part of the DVD, I don't need all of the extras.

tommylotto
Jul 15, 2010, 01:03 PM
I have mentioned this hard math before, encoding 1000 DVD's with a c2d processor will take you about 2000 hours. With an i5 iMac it will take you about 500 hours. That is a difference of 1500 hours -- which is over two additional months of non-stop processor pegging encoding. Assuming your time is worth even a little bit of money, it would make sense to upgrade your computer before you launch into this encoding project.

Hellhammer
Jul 15, 2010, 01:09 PM
I just did a rough count and got 20 Blu Ray disks. I believe I will have my PC up and running soon and I think it has 2 drives that can burn. Should I invest in an eSATA card for my MBP so that I can transfer files faster to the external drive?
I only am interested in the movie part of the DVD, I don't need all of the extras.

If you are going to use your PC to rip the movies, there is no need for eSATA card in MBP as you will be transferring the movies from the PC to external drive thus get external with eSATA connection and get eSATA card/adapter for your PC if it doesn't have eSATA port.

Also, make sure you have right format in the external. FAT32 is probably the best one as most of your movies are DVDs so the 4GB file size limit doesn't bottleneck you. For Blu-Rays, you can dedicate a ~250GB NTFS partition.

Joe Fries
Jul 15, 2010, 01:22 PM
I have mentioned this hard math before, encoding 1000 DVD's with a c2d processor will take you about 2000 hours. With an i5 iMac it will take you about 500 hours. That is a difference of 1500 hours -- which is over two additional months of non-stop processor pegging encoding. Assuming your time is worth even a little bit of money, it would make sense to upgrade your computer before you launch into this encoding project.

That does seem like quite a bit of time, but I think I would rather sacrifice bringing a few DVDs over dropping $1,800 on a new laptop or desktop mac.

Hellhammer
Jul 15, 2010, 01:29 PM
That does seem like quite a bit of time, but I think I would rather sacrifice bringing a few DVDs over dropping $1,800 on a new laptop or desktop mac.

You could just update your PC. For less than 300$, you can get new mobo and six-core AMD which will be blazing fast in encodes. I know you might not want to spend money on it but for this purpose, it's better and a lot cheaper than dropping money on 8-core Mac Pro.

Joe Fries
Jul 15, 2010, 01:49 PM
You could just update your PC. For less than 300$, you can get new mobo and six-core AMD which will be blazing fast in encodes. I know you might not want to spend money on it but for this purpose, it's better and a lot cheaper than dropping money on 8-core Mac Pro.

Solid idea. I didn't even think about upgrading my PC. Thanks a lot. Ill definitely look into that.
Should I go with the i5 if it is the same price, or possibly i7 for $70 more?

peskaa
Jul 15, 2010, 02:09 PM
My suggestion would be to pick up a WD TV Live for the 1080p output to the TV, and the WD TV accepts a lot of formats (rather than the AppleTV!). This then means you won't need your PC, or any other computer, on and serving media.

The backend for this would then be a Netgear ReadyNAS with whatever capacity of drives you need for your media.

Total cost will be lower than a Mac Mini by itself and far more flexible.

Hellhammer
Jul 15, 2010, 03:05 PM
Solid idea. I didn't even think about upgrading my PC. Thanks a lot. Ill definitely look into that.
Should I go with the i5 if it is the same price, or possibly i7 for $70 more?

i7 is worth it when encoding due Hyper-Threading (each core can drive up to two threads causing 8 virtual cores). However, at AMD's Phenom x6s, they are still faster in encoding due real cores plus the price ain't bad, 200$ for 6-core @2.8GHz IIRC. Of course if your current PC has motherboard with either LGA 1156 or LGA 1366 socket, an i5 or i7 is better because there is no need for new mobo.

My suggestion would be to pick up a WD TV Live for the 1080p output to the TV, and the WD TV accepts a lot of formats (rather than the AppleTV!). This then means you won't need your PC, or any other computer, on and serving media.
The backend for this would then be a Netgear ReadyNAS with whatever capacity of drives you need for your media.

Total cost will be lower than a Mac Mini by itself and far more flexible.

I think that wouldn't solve OP's problem as OP doesn't want to bring all his DVDs with him (that's what I understood), he wants to rip them to external HD and bring that with him, which I totally understand. That WD would be great for playing the video when it's finally ripped though. It's a good idea, upgrade the PC and use it for ripping and then buy the WD TV and hook external to it and use it for playback

dlegend
Jul 15, 2010, 09:59 PM
I think the WD player might work for him, you put everything on a hard drive, connect it to the WD player and hit play.

How did you end up with 1,000 dvds/blu rays? I thought I had a decent amount, but it's probably only 100. I can't imagine you'll be watching almost 3 movies a day in the next year. (Please note, I would totally have that many movies if I had the funds. 'Til then Netflix...)

Are you going away to college? I would suggest going through your DVDs and pulling out the ones you really want and encoding them first, you can always get more onto your machine during breaks.

Also, encoding goes quicker when the dvd is already copied onto your hard drive. You might want to start ripping them now so you can encode later.

thejadedmonkey
Jul 15, 2010, 10:07 PM
If you can wait until November...

http://www.boxee.tv/box

danny_w
Jul 15, 2010, 11:05 PM
FYI, I am also looking for a media player solution (I currently have an :apple:TV and a WDTV Live Plus) and was just about to plunk down my money for the new Mac Mini when I saw over on the Apple support forum that many people are having an issue with the HDMI port when switching off the tv/avr or changing video sources away from the Mac Mini. It seems this causes the Mini to get into a lockup situation trying to re-sync to the video target, sometimes causing a kernel panic and often causing the mini to become unresponsive and overheat. I expect Apple will work this out given time, but until then it can be a real pain (Apple says to turn off the Mac Mini before switching the tv/avr away from the Mini!). I am now looking at the Asrock 330-HT media box (ION, dual-core Atom, space for 2nd hdd, dvd or blu-ray drive, etc.).

peskaa
Jul 16, 2010, 03:13 AM
I think that wouldn't solve OP's problem as OP doesn't want to bring all his DVDs with him (that's what I understood), he wants to rip them to external HD and bring that with him, which I totally understand. That WD would be great for playing the video when it's finally ripped though. It's a good idea, upgrade the PC and use it for ripping and then buy the WD TV and hook external to it and use it for playback
Hence I recommended the ReadyNAS as the storage backend. Saves having a power-sucking computer on 24/7, which in the long run will add up.

Hellhammer
Jul 16, 2010, 03:23 AM
Hence I recommended the ReadyNAS as the storage backend. Saves having a power-sucking computer on 24/7, which in the long run will add up.

Yeah, I understand. I didn't say OP should take his PC with him, just rip them now at home and then put them in external (or that NAS) and bring that with him when he moves (and use for example the WD TV for playback, it has USB right?). I doubt neither of those, the NAS or WD TV can rip DVDs :p But I got your point, you were talking about playback solution when all movies are nicely ripped to an external :cool:

Joe Fries
Jul 16, 2010, 03:49 AM
I think the WD player might work for him, you put everything on a hard drive, connect it to the WD player and hit play.

How did you end up with 1,000 dvds/blu rays? I thought I had a decent amount, but it's probably only 100. I can't imagine you'll be watching almost 3 movies a day in the next year. (Please note, I would totally have that many movies if I had the funds. 'Til then Netflix...)

Are you going away to college? I would suggest going through your DVDs and pulling out the ones you really want and encoding them first, you can always get more onto your machine during breaks.

Also, encoding goes quicker when the dvd is already copied onto your hard drive. You might want to start ripping them now so you can encode later.
It basically looks like we robbed a blockbuster or something. Yes, I am going away to college and I would really like whatever I have my media playing through to also allow me to use netflix, which makes the WD TV kind of useless to me. That new Boxee TV looks incredible, but it will be a long 2 months with limited media should I decide to wait. At the same time though, if the new Apple TV, that may or may not be announced at the WWDC, is coming, then it better be able to blow that boxee box away or I think apple's 4th leg will snap off of the stool.

steviem
Jul 16, 2010, 04:00 AM
If you are going to use your PC to rip the movies, there is no need for eSATA card in MBP as you will be transferring the movies from the PC to external drive thus get external with eSATA connection and get eSATA card/adapter for your PC if it doesn't have eSATA port.

Also, make sure you have right format in the external. FAT32 is probably the best one as most of your movies are DVDs so the 4GB file size limit doesn't bottleneck you. For Blu-Rays, you can dedicate a ~250GB NTFS partition.

FAT32 would probably be bad if you want to get more blu-ray movies because of this limit.

peskaa
Jul 16, 2010, 04:07 AM
It basically looks like we robbed a blockbuster or something. Yes, I am going away to college and I would really like whatever I have my media playing through to also allow me to use netflix, which makes the WD TV kind of useless to me. That new Boxee TV looks incredible, but it will be a long 2 months with limited media should I decide to wait. At the same time though, if the new Apple TV, that may or may not be announced at the WWDC, is coming, then it better be able to blow that boxee box away or I think apple's 4th leg will snap off of the stool.

Your limitations are going to start making this unfeasible without multiple units. AppleTV will never support Netflix, as it competes with their own iTunes service for rentals/sales, and the number of decent streamers that support 1080p with a wide range of codecs and then streaming services on top is minimal at best.

In terms of a "right now" solution, the WDTV is the best on the market. Your Netflix can be served off the 360, and Hulu Plus off the PS3. If you don't want that number of units, then simply use the PS3 for DNLA streaming, but you'll have to watch your encodes in terms of codecs and size.


[EDIT: Actually, just use the PS3. Forgot that you guys in the States get Netflix and Hulu on the PS3]

Hellhammer
Jul 16, 2010, 04:09 AM
FAT32 would probably be bad if you want to get more blu-ray movies because of this limit.

I said NTFS partition for Blu-Rays because with FAT32 you're limited to 4GB per file

For Blu-Rays, you can dedicate a ~250GB NTFS partition.

Joe Fries
Jul 16, 2010, 04:25 AM
Your limitations are going to start making this unfeasible without multiple units. AppleTV will never support Netflix, as it competes with their own iTunes service for rentals/sales, and the number of decent streamers that support 1080p with a wide range of codecs and then streaming services on top is minimal at best.

In terms of a "right now" solution, the WDTV is the best on the market. Your Netflix can be served off the 360, and Hulu Plus off the PS3. If you don't want that number of units, then simply use the PS3 for DNLA streaming, but you'll have to watch your encodes in terms of codecs and size.

So if you guys had to choose between:
1. Mac Mini
2. WD TV + PS3 for Netflix and Hulu
3. Wait for new Apple TV
4. Wait for Boxee TV

Which would you choose?

peskaa
Jul 16, 2010, 04:29 AM
So if you guys had to choose between:
1. Mac Mini
2. WD TV + PS3 for Netflix and Hulu
3. Wait for new Apple TV
4. Wait for Boxee TV

Which would you choose?

Obviously I'd pick 2. You already have the PS3, so the WD TV is a cheap buy, and ticks all the boxes. The Mac Mini would be horribly expensive in comparison, and also has an inferior TV interface (out of the box). New AppleTV is highly unlikely to do what you want it to do, as Apple want you to play their files, not your own ripped ones (the chances of getting a BD rip working at 1080p is basically nil). Boxee would be my second choice, but it's an unknown quantity at this time.

Hellhammer
Jul 16, 2010, 04:33 AM
So if you guys had to choose between:
1. Mac Mini
2. WD TV + PS3 for Netflix and Hulu
3. Wait for new Apple TV
4. Wait for Boxee TV

Which would you choose?

Do you have PS3 already? I would say Mini is the easiest but if you're anyway getting a PS3 (or have already), just use it. Just make sure you encode the movies into PS3 friendly format (http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/3_15/video/filetypes.html). If you aren't getting PS3, jump for Mini, it supports all formats and is more useful than WD TV or PS3 (it's a real computer).

steviem
Jul 16, 2010, 04:38 AM
If you're getting/already have a PS3 or 360, I would say you probably wouldn't have to get anything else. Especially with all the talk of Apple possibly updating the AppleTV with something iOS.

The only big reason to go AppleTV/Mac Mini is if you buy video from iTunes (and being able to know where you are in TV seasons without remembering).

For the amount of data we're talking, I'd invest in a good NAS hosting DLNA, a drobo or a cheapish pc with loads of sata ports and a few hard drives. Probably a NAS would be good if you have to worry about electricity.

Joe Fries
Jul 16, 2010, 04:54 AM
WD TV Live Plus HD Media Player
"Play media from your home network and the Internet on your big screen TV. Plus, enjoy access to your Netflix unlimited membership and other premium content. Don’t confine your movies, music, and photos to your small computer screen. Experience them as big as life on your TV in Full-HD 1080p with WD TV Live Plus HD media player"

Unless I'm really missing something, it seems like you can watch netflix from your WD TV now...

Edit: Yes, I do have the PS3 already. I am very intrigued by the Boxee Box though. I love the ability to utilize apps like facebook and twitter to be as lazy as possible and not pick up my laptop or use my iPhone.

dlegend
Jul 16, 2010, 05:36 AM
I want to see a picture of all these movies!

darkgroove
Jul 16, 2010, 08:23 AM
The answer is simple.

Mac Mini + Drobo.

Boxee is a far cry from what Plex can do for you (and the upcoming version of Plex will allow you to organize everything easily) and I would avoid it like the plague.

WDTV isn't an Apple device, enough said.

Apple TV is too limited.

Yes, the mini and the drobo are expensive, but you should be in this for the long haul and not something that just works for the time being. Anything other than this solution and you are bonkers.

Joe Fries
Jul 16, 2010, 03:40 PM
I want to see a picture of all these movies!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/SHTaLKa/Photoon2010-07-16at1533.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/SHTaLKa/Photoon2010-07-16at1534.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/SHTaLKa/Photoon2010-07-16at15342.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/SHTaLKa/Photoon2010-07-16at1535.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/SHTaLKa/Photoon2010-07-16at15352.jpg
There are more scattered around the house.

dlegend
Jul 18, 2010, 07:24 PM
That looks amazing. Any decisions yet on what you're going to be doing?

Joe Fries
Jul 19, 2010, 01:53 AM
I guess, for right now, I'm just going to buy up a bunch of 2TB hard drives, throw them in a drobo, and start loading movies onto it so I can play them on my ps3. I'm definitely going to think this through thoroughly and do everything to avoid a Mac mini. I'll already be spending >500 on a new PC to rip and encode the DVDs. If I can avoid spending 800 on a Mac mini and buy the boxee box for way cheaper while sacrificing a minimum amount of functionality, that would be amazing. Any other suggestions would be great, like if the PC I'm about to buy would serve any other function in my entertainment system besides ripping, encoding, and gaming. I'm currently trying to use the tutorial for ripping and encoding in Automator and it is proving to be very difficult.

steviem
Jul 19, 2010, 09:12 AM
maybe make sure the components for the PC are osx86 compatible ;)

Hellhammer
Jul 19, 2010, 10:09 AM
I guess, for right now, I'm just going to buy up a bunch of 2TB hard drives, throw them in a drobo, and start loading movies onto it so I can play them on my ps3. I'm definitely going to think this through thoroughly and do everything to avoid a Mac mini. I'll already be spending >500 on a new PC to rip and encode the DVDs. If I can avoid spending 800 on a Mac mini and buy the boxee box for way cheaper while sacrificing a minimum amount of functionality, that would be amazing. Any other suggestions would be great, like if the PC I'm about to buy would serve any other function in my entertainment system besides ripping, encoding, and gaming. I'm currently trying to use the tutorial for ripping and encoding in Automator and it is proving to be very difficult.

When you get the PC, throw the 2TB drives in it and stream the movies to your PS3. Just make sure they are connected in the same network. No need to use Drobo as medium, it will be much quicker if it is done wirelessly

steviem
Jul 19, 2010, 04:35 PM
I found wireless G a little slow for streaming movies to my PS3, but yeah, without having to go through FW, it will be quicker with the disks right in the computer.

Hellhammer
Jul 19, 2010, 04:43 PM
I found wireless G a little slow for streaming movies to my PS3, but yeah, without having to go through FW, it will be quicker with the disks right in the computer.

You can use wired connection as well. I prefer wired but my router is four floors below me so it isn't an option. Wireless g is good unless you are looking at videos with high bitrate or your connection is weak

Joe Fries
Jul 20, 2010, 12:12 AM
I was really excited when I found out I could stream movies from a time machine to apple tv, but then, after reading these forums, I found out about apple tv sucking and other things that changed my mind about that.
I'd love to make as many things wireless as possible, since I will be in a small apartment with dedicated Internet and the router should never be more than 5 feet away from any device.
Can I hook the drobo up to the ps3 via USB?
Also is it possible to rip and encode dvds with an automated process on a PC?

MowingDevil
Jul 20, 2010, 01:51 AM
What kind of TV do you have? My Samsung Series 7 has a built in Media Player so all I have to do is compress all my DVDs onto a USB hard drive and voila I'm set. So far I'm about 120 movies in and more to go before I really get started on docs & TV shows. Looking forward sticking all those disc cases away in storage. I've got a Lacie 2tb drive and so far I've barely made a dent in it. I'll probably be able to load all my movies and music (abo 400 cds) on the same disc the way things are going. The only discs I'll have left in the living room are boxed sets and special editions w/ cool packaging or loads of bonus features plus blu-rays which is fine. Much more manageable and user friendly.

If the Apple TV is 1080p I'll even probably load those blu-rays onto that and use it for downloading from iTunes. If not I'm happy w/ what I have going on so far.

Hellhammer
Jul 20, 2010, 03:27 AM
I was really excited when I found out I could stream movies from a time machine to apple tv, but then, after reading these forums, I found out about apple tv sucking and other things that changed my mind about that.
I'd love to make as many things wireless as possible, since I will be in a small apartment with dedicated Internet and the router should never be more than 5 feet away from any device.
Can I hook the drobo up to the ps3 via USB?
Also is it possible to rip and encode dvds with an automated process on a PC?

Just make sure Drobo is formatted as FAT32 and it will work. Keep in mind that FAT32 has file size limit of 4GB but encoded DVDs fit there fine.
Here (http://systembash.com/content/automatically-rip-dvd-using-handbrake-and-autoplay-xp/) is one click solution for ripping and encoding DVDs with HandBrake. BTW, what parts are you getting for your PC?

Joe Fries
Jul 21, 2010, 11:06 PM
Just make sure Drobo is formatted as FAT32 and it will work. Keep in mind that FAT32 has file size limit of 4GB but encoded DVDs fit there fine.
Here (http://systembash.com/content/automatically-rip-dvd-using-handbrake-and-autoplay-xp/) is one click solution for ripping and encoding DVDs with HandBrake. BTW, what parts are you getting for your PC?
I don't really know where to start with the PC at this point, because I've been Mac for so long. I'm very behind with current PC trends and hardware. If you guys could help me build a PC that would be fantastic. I'm pretty set on an i5 or i7 processor and I would need a decent graphics card, good enough to run Counter-Strike flawlessly and Diablo III as well (if it ever comes out!!!!).Other than that I just want the cheapest stuff around with the best value possible. If this could be done for less than 600, that would be amazing.
Oh yeah, I'll probably need two disk drives so that I can rip movies 2 at a time, like we talked about earlier in the thread.

Hellhammer
Jul 22, 2010, 03:48 AM
I don't really know where to start with the PC at this point, because I've been Mac for so long. I'm very behind with current PC trends and hardware. If you guys could help me build a PC that would be fantastic. I'm pretty set on an i5 or i7 processor and I would need a decent graphics card, good enough to run Counter-Strike flawlessly and Diablo III as well (if it ever comes out!!!!).Other than that I just want the cheapest stuff around with the best value possible. If this could be done for less than 600, that would be amazing.
Oh yeah, I'll probably need two disk drives so that I can rip movies 2 at a time, like we talked about earlier in the thread.

Because you are getting it for ripping and encoding, I seriously recommend you getting the AMD Phenom II x6. i7 is little better but it costs nearly 100$ more. Some benches here (http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed/6)!

Get for example:

Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131603) - 70$
Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851) - 200$
Video card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130562) - 200$
Memory (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277) - 100$
DVD burner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204) - 24$

Total: 594$

Then the important question. What case and power supply do you have? New case and PSU cost ~100$. Oh, that does not include HDs either. You can easily drop the cost down a little by choosing cheaper GPU but the GTX 460 is the king of its category. If you need new case etc, I can come up with cheaper set up as well if needed

Joe Fries
Jul 22, 2010, 04:52 AM
Because you are getting it for ripping and encoding, I seriously recommend you getting the AMD Phenom II x6. i7 is little better but it costs nearly 100$ more. Some benches here (http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed/6)!

Get for example:

Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131603) - 70$
Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851) - 200$
Video card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130562) - 200$
Memory (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277) - 100$
DVD burner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204) - 24$

Total: 594$

Then the important question. What case and power supply do you have? New case and PSU cost ~100$. Oh, that does not include HDs either. You can easily drop the cost down a little by choosing cheaper GPU but the GTX 460 is the king of its category. If you need new case etc, I can come up with cheaper set up as well if needed

That seems like it is right around what Im looking for. I do need a case and a power supply though.

Hellhammer
Jul 22, 2010, 07:38 AM
That seems like it is right around what Im looking for. I do need a case and a power supply though.

This (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042) is a good case. It's pretty neutral so if you want something fancy with leds etc, pick this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021) for example. As for PSU, this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010) is quite good, 600W lets you have option for power hungrier parts.

Also, for 10 bucks more you can get a mobo (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128419) with USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s

dlegend
Aug 11, 2010, 08:51 PM
Any updates? What did you end up doing and how is it going?