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MacBytes
Nov 19, 2004, 09:13 AM
Category: 3rd Party Hardware
Link: Tivo on the Mac (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20041119101308)
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macten
Nov 19, 2004, 09:27 AM
Category: 3rd Party Hardware
Link: Tivo on the Mac (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20041119101308)



Very misleading. I was hoping it was an article about TiVo allowing me to connect to my TiVo from my Mac. :( Not another review of another PVR.

emw
Nov 19, 2004, 09:35 AM
Interesting, but it seems somewhat limited. From what I can see, it allows you to transfer video to your Mac, but you can't actually play the video back on the TV, which is what makes TiVo great.

I'd rather go for their AV100U (http://www.plextor.com/english/products/ConvertX-AV100U.htm) product, which would allow me to transfer videos onto my Mac. I think - it says PC only, but it's a USB interface, so it may work. Any ideas?

Of course, TiVo keeps talking about the TiVo to Go product, but I haven't seen anything recently. It was supposed to be released this fall.

erroneous
Nov 19, 2004, 09:42 AM
So it's a new piece of hardware, but all the interesting editting/export/scheduling bits are standard Elgato EyeTV software features.

Strange product.

katanna
Nov 19, 2004, 10:41 AM
OK, so I am thinking about getting something like this... a TV tuner for my iMac (external) and the only thing I have seen so far is the EyeTV ( http://www.elgato.com/ - I just looked at their website and they updated it with the new iMac).
Are there any other products for the iMac like this? And which should I get?
BTW: I don't use a cable box... it goes into my VCR.

Matthew

Jerry Spoon
Nov 19, 2004, 11:41 AM
Thought about doing something like this awhile back, but just got my tivo-like dvr from Charter cable that works just about seamlessly w/ their service. It's very very nice. :D

daveL
Nov 19, 2004, 12:49 PM
What a lame article. The author uses a test Mac that doesn't have USB2 or a CD/DVD burner, so he can't use half the capabilities of the product. Also, the last I heard, Divx and mpeg4 are the same thing, except for some details about the file format, but he presents them as two different compression methods.

Is it me or is there a lot of poorly researched content out there these days. I'm really surprised by some of the stuff that gets published.

nagromme
Nov 19, 2004, 02:48 PM
I'd like a Cardbus TV tuner and PVR. I'd hook it to a real antenna at home, and a smaller portable one on the road.

sjk
Nov 19, 2004, 06:22 PM
So it's a new piece of hardware, but all the interesting editting/export/scheduling bits are standard Elgato EyeTV software features.

Strange product.What's strange to me is why Elgato Systems would want Plextor using their software with what appears to be a superior competing hardware product. ConvertX PX-TV402U has an advantage over the EyeTV 200 since it can encode MPEG-4 and DivX directly and costs ~$100 (MSRP) less.

I wonder if ConvertX MPEG-1/MPEG-2 files can be viewed/edited directly with non-EyeTV software, without needing to be exported like with EyeTV.

Santaduck
Nov 19, 2004, 07:39 PM
can you record to disk with a mac? (i've heard of linux-based utilities, but don't really know myself)

is there a legal issue there or is it basically fair use like VHS tape recordings?

sjk
Nov 19, 2004, 10:22 PM
EyeTV, AlchemyTV, Formac Studio, ConvertX, and probably a few others record directly to Mac hard drives. I don't know the legal details but you're probably right that it's similar to VHS recording. Nowadays every analog cable station seems to permanently display its logo while broadcasting which is probably intended to discourage pirating recordings, especially with the convenience of standalone recorders with builtin DVD burners as an increasingly popular alternative to VHS for recording.

kronos2611
Nov 20, 2004, 05:44 AM
I've been using the USB eyeTV for over a year and found it great, but the quality lacking a bit (which is why I've just bought a shiny eyeTV 410). The software is great (now - was flaky) and I've enjoyed using it over the past year. However I have to admit that if Tivo were still selling in the UK I'd probably go for one of them instead....

Which brings me on to - bring back Tivo!!