Well.. Its August! Who's got their credit cards ready??

[jjahshik32]

Well its August 1 now! Whos getting geared up for the new Mac Pros?

Personally, once the new Mac Pros are released, I'm going to head to the local Apple store to see what the discounts are on the Nehalem based Mac Pros.

[Icaras]

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Well its August 1 now! Whos getting geared up for the new Mac Pros?

Personally, once the new Mac Pros are released, I'm going to head to the local Apple store to see what the discounts are on the Nehalem based Mac Pros.

Well we still have 8 more days to go, and thankfully the MP launch falls right after my next paycheck so I'm good to go!

[strausd]

I've been savin up for a while and can't wait!

[J the Ninja]

I'm pretty much decided on the base quad core model. It will be my workstation for the next few years while I work on my BA (the real fun there starts January) and hopefully I'll be able to start doing paid work here in the next few months. I've been pinching pennies from a $9/hr job all year for this. Now all that is left is to see who will sell me 4x2GB of RAM the cheapest.

[strausd]

Now all that is left is to see who will sell me 4x2GB of RAM the cheapest.

OWC and TransIntl will be your best bet for cheap RAM. I think TransIntl may be a little cheaper, but if you do the OWC RAM rebate, it might end up being cheaper.

[keewe]

gonna buy the 6 core machine (even if the price it over the octacore... -.-)

still dont know that to do with the RAM. 2x8GB might be to expensive right now, but i dont waste the slots with 2x4.

[Icaras]

gonna buy the 6 core machine (even if the price it over the octacore... -.-)

still dont know that to do with the RAM. 2x8GB might be to expensive right now, but i dont waste the slots with 2x4.

Will the MP still work correctly if one were to mix up RAM modules by different vendors? For example, having 2x8GB via Apple, and then later adding 2x8GB by OWC?

[tmricks]

Once as I sell my PC then I have my eyes set on the quad core. I am probably going to do what jjahshik32 is doing and look into the prices of the Nehalem Mac Pros.

[brentsg]

Will the MP still work correctly if one were to mix up RAM modules by different vendors? For example, having 2x8GB via Apple, and then later adding 2x8GB by OWC?

Not if you match the specs.

[strausd]

From OWC:

OWC p/n OWC8566D3MPE8GB 8GB modules require that all installed modules be of this same matching part.

Sounds to me like, at least for the 8GB module, it has to be from OWC. And I'm pretty sure its the same thing for the 4GB.

[odinsride]

Have cash in hand to buy a 6 core...just counting down the days

[RubbishBBspeed]

I'm waiting for my tight ass boss to stop walking with a squeak and release the lump of coal that by now must have turned into a diamond and sign my purchase order for my new Mac Pro and two screens.

[trankdart]

I too am clicking on an order for a BTO 6-core as fast as I can when the online store starts taking orders, and I too will do so even if it's priced with diabolical evil, as I expect it will be. I just hope they don't get so backed up in China with 6-core MP orders that it takes weeks to ship.

I have my vanishing last-of-its-kind developer discount to apply...it expires in December and they ain't selling them any more. It's worth $500 off the current MP. If they make it worth less (or make it worthless) on the new ones, I'll make my displeasure known, but I don't see they have any reason to do that (even though I was somewhat surprised to see that the developer discount was $0 on the iPad, which was not released until after Apple had stopped selling developer memberships to the public).

Then I'll pull the cards and extra drives out of my venerable (but fully operational) early 2006 MP 1,1 and recycle it for however many gift-card pennies Apple's junk dealer will give me for it. It's not worth hassling with ebay.

[Icaras]

From OWC:

OWC p/n OWC8566D3MPE8GB 8GB modules require that all installed modules be of this same matching part.

Sounds to me like, at least for the 8GB module, it has to be from OWC. And I'm pretty sure its the same thing for the 4GB.

That's what I've read too.

But seriously, can anyone truly confirm this?

Edit: Sorry, I don't mean to hijack this thread but I need to make sure I don't needlessly waste money on RAM when the Mac Pro arrives. Anyway, I think I found a good enough confirmation by other users at Apple's own discussion forums:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9506388

Seems like you really can't mix vendor specific RAM modules. However, I'm glad to learn that OWC actually offers a rebate for trading in your Apple OEM RAM, which is quite nice. I'll definitely be getting rid of my 3GB Apple ram right away! :)

For those interested and not in the know, heres the link to OWC's trade in rebate offers page:

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/trade-in-rebate

Edit 2: Maybe I'm being hasty about the rebates though. Is it correct that Apple will not cover your machine under warranty if it is not using the original Apple RAM? If so, then perhaps its not a good idea to trade in your RAM afterall...

[Block]

Mac Pro is coming at the wrong time for me :( should have delayed it another few months!

[Vylen]

Mac Pro is coming at the wrong time for me :( should have delayed it another few months!

boooo!!! *hissssss* boooo!

[ValSalva]

So it's available for preorder on the 9th. I wonder if the rumored iLife '11 will be preinstalled. I'm sure the majority of Pro users don't use most of those apps but it would still be nice to have.

[apolloa]

Not that I will buy one anyway, but I couldn't as I have FINALLY got my iPhone 4!!!!!! woooohoooooo, AND I LOVE IT.... sorry, I'm excited.

I thought I heard pre-orders start tomorrow?? I've been eyeing up that Core i5 iMac 21".... hmmm, really should control myself as my laptop is only a month or so old!

[chrono1081]

MMMMMMEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

Its going to be like Christmas on August 9th! Not only does the new ZBrush come out but I'll be ordering my Mac Pro :D

[southerndoc]

I have to wait til September so I can purchase the 27" cinema display with it.

[Cynicalone]

I'm ready to purchase the 5870 if it is available on the 9th.

[parakiet]

i have it rdy..

..but for a great hackintosh

if everything goes terribly wrong that great box will become a win7 machine with only cs5 :o

[sOid]

Why the 9th? I thought Apple didn't announce a specific date?

Anyway, my credit card is polished and ready!

[Vylen]

Why the 9th? I thought Apple didn't announce a specific date?

Anyway, my credit card is polished and ready!

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=980557

[jamesedward]

Cash money, ready..

I have a budget of £2500 for the desktop. i was looking at the quad core, I think any different will be far to much. But given the estimated £560 for upgrading what and where would you spend it on?

I was thinking memory, but not sure where from? needs to be uk.

and graphics card.

any thoughts??

[strausd]

Maybe I'm being hasty about the rebates though. Is it correct that Apple will not cover your machine under warranty if it is not using the original Apple RAM? If so, then perhaps its not a good idea to trade in your RAM afterall...

RAM shouldn't void your warranty.

[Mr_Ed]

I'm ready!

My MacPro1,1 is getting a bit outdated, though my wife is excited about getting it as a hand-me-down :D

[sOid]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=980557

Ah, thanks for that. Missed the article. Well, let's hope they'll start shipping soon after the orders are placed!

[ValSalva]

I have to wait til September so I can purchase the 27" cinema display with it.

That's a real puzzler. I was very surprised to see the difference in availability times between the new Mac Pro and the new 27" ACD. You shouldn't have to wait the extra month or month and a half depending on exactly when the new ACD ships.

[Cynicalone]

That's a real puzzler. I was very surprised to see the difference in availability times between the new Mac Pro and the new 27" ACD. You shouldn't have to wait the extra month or month and a half depending on exactly when the new ACD ships.

Normally when this type of thing happens Apple will ship the computer and then when the display becomes available it will ship the display.

I'm not sure how they will handle this since the display isn't even available for pre-order.

[johnnymg]

36 hours to go ....................... :D

Better get that CC out and Apple's 800 # on speed-dial.

cheers
JohnG

[Icaras]

36 hours to go ....................... :D

Better get that CC out and Apple's 800 # on speed-dial.

cheers
JohnG

I wonder if you'll be able to order it around midnight, like how they had the iPhone 4 pre-order.

[keewe]

do you guys think apple ships the same day or will it just be a pre order program?

[Icaras]

do you guys think apple ships the same day or will it just be a pre order program?

Well according to Mac Rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/29/apple-to-begin-taking-orders-for-new-mac-pro-on-august-9th/), whos called Apple to confirm, it will not be pre-orders, so the new MPs should be available to ship that day.

Here's hoping at least. :)

[jjahshik32]

Screw ordering it at midnight. I"ll be at the Apple store 9AM sharp to pick up either the heavily discounted 2.66GHz (current model) or the 2.93GHz or decide on the new 2.8GHz base model instead.

If the 2.66GHz (current base model) is $1799 (like the 2.8GHz 8 core was back in early 09'), I rather pick that one up as its still a Nehalem thats slightly down clocked as to the 2.8GHz.

[nanofrog]

Well according to Mac Rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/29/apple-to-begin-taking-orders-for-new-mac-pro-on-august-9th/), whos called Apple to confirm, it will not be pre-orders, so the new MPs should be available to ship that day.
My interpretation read the opposite; can order on the 9th, but no idea when they'd actually ship (i.e. stock won't be available for shipping on the 9th).

[Icaras]

My interpretation read the opposite; can order on the 9th, but no idea when they'd actually ship (i.e. stock won't be available for shipping on the 9th).

Oh yea, I didn't mean specifically the 9th, but the usual "within 24" hours shipping label.

Well, I guess we're all hoping for this.

[Vylen]

Some people on these forums have been saying that they've rung up Apple regarding the date and been told it's incorrect and has been pushed back.

I sure as hell hope not.

Anyone wanna ring them up?

[johnnymg]

Screw ordering it at midnight. I"ll be at the Apple store 9AM sharp to pick up either the heavily discounted 2.66GHz (current model) or the 2.93GHz or decide on the new 2.8GHz base model instead.

If the 2.66GHz (current base model) is $1799 (like the 2.8GHz 8 core was back in early 09'), I rather pick that one up as its still a Nehalem thats slightly down clocked as to the 2.8GHz.

Do the B&M stores sell their "old stock" MP's at the same price as the online refurb store or are they even more price-aggressive?

cheers
JohnG

[pterosaur]

Had a new desk delivered yesterday, various parts are on their way (firewire hub, RAM, external HD & DVD burner). Waiting for August 17th to see if there is an update announced for iLife (not that I will use it much), then will order my BTO quad-core iMac. Figure the delay will let them work out problems with supply and delivery. Kinda like intentionally delaying Christmas, but I'm pretty much OK so far.

[TennisandMusic]

Had a new desk delivered yesterday, various parts are on their way (firewire hub, RAM, external HD & DVD burner). Waiting for August 17th to see if there is an update announced for iLife (not that I will use it much), then will order my BTO quad-core iMac. Figure the delay will let them work out problems with supply and delivery. Kinda like intentionally delaying Christmas, but I'm pretty much OK so far.

You are in the wrong forum bro.

[Icaras]

Had a new desk delivered yesterday, various parts are on their way (firewire hub, RAM, external HD & DVD burner). Waiting for August 17th to see if there is an update announced for iLife (not that I will use it much), then will order my BTO quad-core iMac. Figure the delay will let them work out problems with supply and delivery. Kinda like intentionally delaying Christmas, but I'm pretty much OK so far.

Yea I was thinking about this too. I might wait until August 17 for the rumored Apple media event. I'd like new versions of iLife and iWork and I would like to get a discount on iWork when getting a Mac.

Hmmm, but I think Apple may offer a 30 day upgrade grace period if you already ordered a Mac or iLife. Thats what they did with iLife '09 when it was announced last January, so I would assume it would be safe to order the Mac Pro right away when it gets released.

So really, not sure if I should wait another week or just order on launch day. The wait is already killing me.

[highdefw]

3 more days 0_o

sooooo many questions...too many options... Apple is really killing me here

[twoodcc]

well i sure hope 9 AUG is the day. we will find out soon!

[jjahshik32]

So apparently the new Mac Pros are supposed to be released on a Monday?

[rajbonham]

Some people on these forums have been saying that they've rung up Apple regarding the date and been told it's incorrect and has been pushed back.

I sure as hell hope not.

Anyone wanna ring them up?

I noticed this as well. It's going to be ugly in the Mac Pro Forum on Monday, when the online store never changes. A lot of people are positive Monday is the day, but let's remember, it says "Coming August" not "Coming August 9th".

[trankdart]

...It's going to be ugly in the Mac Pro Forum on Monday, when the online store never changes. A lot of people are positive Monday is the day, but let's remember, it says "Coming August" not "Coming August 9th".

I agree that people have jumped to a largely unwarranted conclusion.

The only real ray of hope I HAD seen (pls note use of past tense) wasn't on any Apple site, but rather on the Kingston site, where the 1333Mhz memory for the new MP's--which I ordered--was listed as being "Available approx. August 9." earlier this week.

Unfortunately, I just looked at it again and that availability date has now changed to approximately August 11.:confused:

Of course we can't draw any real conclusions from that either, but if it means anything, it doesn't mean anything good.

TD

It turns out my kingston memory has shipped and will be delivered by UPS on Aug 9.

[ValSalva]

I agree that people have jumped to a largely unwarranted conclusion.

The only real ray of hope I HAD seen (pls note use of past tense) wasn't on any Apple site, but rather on the Kingston site, where the 1333Mhz memory for the new MP's--which I ordered--was listed as being "Available approx. August 9." earlier this week.

Unfortunately, I just looked at it again and that availability date has now changed to approximately August 11.:confused:

Of course we can't draw any real conclusions from that either, but if it means anything, it doesn't mean anything good.

TD

It turns out my kingston memory has shipped and will be delivered by UPS on Aug 9.

You bought it directly from Kingston? Their prices are... a bit pricey. Even links from their site to retailers are significantly cheaper such as the DDR3 1333 4GB module is $100 cheaper from CDW.

Thanks for heads up about Kingston DDR3 1333 ECC availability. I've heard very good things about Kingston RAM.

[Argon21]

Why do Apple use low-end consumer grade graphics card in these Mac Pro? Mac Pro is Professioanl workstation, not consumer peecee. Why use Radeon from ATI? This one is for the kids!! They should be using the ATI FireGL series of cards which is for the professioanl. Not Radeon!!!

[Chupa Chupa]

I'm ready!

My MacPro1,1 is getting a bit outdated, though my wife is excited about getting it as a hand-me-down :D

Yeah, I just sold mine. I was still happy w/ it but decided I better get some money out of it while its still worth something. I got $1300 for it, which I think is fantastic for a 4 year old computer.

Paid $2200 for my 1,1 and could not hand over the money quick enough. I'm not too excited about the new bumps though. None seem like the "deal" the 1,1 was. Now I'm torn over entry level octo or single proc 6core -- I figure they will be around the same price. I'm not really excited about either, mainly because of price. Part of me says just go entry quadcore, get a fast SSD for boot drive, and max out RAM.

Why do Apple use low-end consumer grade graphics card in these Mac Pro? Mac Pro is Professioanl workstation, not consumer peecee. Why use Radeon from ATI? This one is for the kids!! They should be using the ATI FireGL series of cards which is for the professioanl. Not Radeon!!!

That is a question for the ages. As long as I can remember, Apple's graphics card have always been a generation or two behind the PC world, and even then they don't use the best of that generation. It's always some crippled crap marked up 200% from the PC version.

Apple likes to pay lip service to pros and gamers, but never really pulls though.

[trankdart]

You bought it directly from Kingston? Their prices are... a bit pricey...

Ouch! I knew they were a little higher but I thought they were mostly like Crucial. But no, you're right, $100 higher.

I will RMA that memory and get it from CDW. Might have to wait a while because CDW says "Availability 4-6 days". Thank you for the heads up.

TD

[J the Ninja]

Why do Apple use low-end consumer grade graphics card in these Mac Pro? Mac Pro is Professioanl workstation, not consumer peecee. Why use Radeon from ATI? This one is for the kids!! They should be using the ATI FireGL series of cards which is for the professioanl. Not Radeon!!!

Oh jeez, not again.

Because there is no performance difference in OS X. At all. http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/12/a-second-look-at-the-nvidia-quadro-fx-4800-mac-edition.ars/3


You'd think a decent stock GPU would finally get people to stop bitching, but noooooooooo

When AMD will make a decent FireGL driver for OS X, let us know.

[Argon21]

Oh jeez, not again.

Because there is no performance difference in OS X. At all. http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/12/a-second-look-at-the-nvidia-quadro-fx-4800-mac-edition.ars/3


You'd think a decent stock GPU would finally get people to stop bitching, but noooooooooo

When AMD will make a decent FireGL driver for OS X, let us know.
It has nothing to do with the benchmark performances. It is the chip features that makes the difference!! But some people if they are not professionle may not understand theses differences!!

[J the Ninja]

It has nothing to do with the benchmark performances. It is the chip features that makes the difference!! But some people if they are not professionle may not understand theses differences!!

Chip differences? Is this like the "SP Xeons are better than i7s" thing? Where one is more "pro" due to some minor feature that doesn't make a shred of real-world difference for most pros? If the performance is the same, who gives a damn about chip differences? Or did you not read that review of an actual pro saying the price premium is worthless under OS X?

The main selling point of those cards is the drivers, which are optimized and certified for various 3D tools. As noted, this is worth jack under OS X.

[ValSalva]

I'm inclined to believe the August 9th Mac Pro availability for ordering rumor and I'm getting excited. That's tomorrow! I thought I'd be ordering one in March when those rumors were circulating. Now almost 5 months later and it's so so close :D

[greenmeanie]

Because they don't want their computers to sound like Planes taking off because of all the fans in there.
We love Silent computing.


Why do Apple use low-end consumer grade graphics card in these Mac Pro? Mac Pro is Professioanl workstation, not consumer peecee. Why use Radeon from ATI? This one is for the kids!! They should be using the ATI FireGL series of cards which is for the professioanl. Not Radeon!!!

[dockingbay94]

I have a feeling it's not going to be up for order tomorrow.

:[

[Icaras]

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I'm inclined to believe the August 9th Mac Pro availability for ordering rumor and I'm getting excited. That's tomorrow! I thought I'd be ordering one in March when those rumors were circulating. Now almost 5 months later and it's so so close :D

Amen! I share your excitement. It's been a long 17 months since the last update. I'm personally confident we'll see the update tomorrow. My guess is that the sales reps knew the launch date but was never told to keep quiet from the higher ups because of all the other crazy iPhone 4 issues going on, and then were finally told to keep the date confidential after the unintentional slip-ups.



Well, we'll definitely find out tomorrow.

[keewe]

yep me too. just another disappointment by apple...

[jjahshik32]

I have a feeling it's not going to be up for order tomorrow.

:[

Ah the old doubting that it'll be released/negative remark SO that it'll come true tactic! :p

I'm desperate for the new Mac Pro as well, my mini (although fast for alot of things) is starting to look a little too slow these days (12 spaces opened running tons of applications and vmware fusion).

Oh and I'm desperately in need of more space! Say something like 3TB or more. My local microcenter is having a sale for 1TB HDDs for $59.99.

[J the Ninja]

So it begins.

Just put in an order from Newegg for my new scratch disk, plus some more RAM for my gaming rig so it can keep up during distributed renders. (When you're a student, you take extra render muscle where you can find it. :p) I'll be ordering RAM for the MP from OWC once they have the official 2010 modules in stock.

P.S. Newegg has WD's 1TB Caviar Black, the newer FAEX model with 500GB platters (instead of 333GB) and 64MB cache for $95/w free shipping.

[strausd]

So it begins.

Just put in an order from Newegg for my new scratch disk, plus some more RAM for my gaming rig so it can keep up during distributed renders. (When you're a student, you take extra render muscle where you can find it. :p) I'll be ordering RAM for the MP from OWC once they have the official 2010 modules in stock.

P.S. Newegg has WD's 1TB Caviar Black, the newer FAEX model with 500GB platters (instead of 333GB) and 64MB cache for $95/w free shipping.

I think Amazon has the 1TB Caviar Black for $90. And if you are a college student you can get a free year of Amazon Prime, which means free 2-day shipping for a year :)