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trickyred
Aug 5, 2010, 07:58 AM
Hi all

I am the happy and proud owner of a 3 year old AppleTV which the whole family loves.

I have splashed out and bought a Toshiba Camileo BW10 waterproof little action cam, which does video at 1080p, and it's not bad quality, but I am gutted to find out that the appleTV cannot see the movies when they are placed into iTunes. With them being h264 mp4s I thought that would be enough. I know Handbrake can convert them but I was trying to keep away from re-encoding as I've always been led to believe that re-encoding always leads to a loss of at least 'some' quality, not to mention the time factor (over an hour for a 3 minute clip??)



ChargerSteve
Aug 5, 2010, 09:10 AM
If you are recording 1080P and trying to play that directly, I wouldn't expect it to work as AppleTV only supports up to 720P. Check on Apple.com and you'll see the limits of AppleTV in terms of resolution, bitrate, etc. Either setup your camera to record in a supported format or re-encode to a supported format after recording. Having it be H.264 is only part of the equation. I wish it was otherwise, but the limitations are well published and fairly easy to accommodate.

darkgroove
Aug 5, 2010, 09:21 AM
Had somewhat of a similar issue with my Flip HD (which was crap). Basically you need to reencode it in some shape or form, but there are fast ways and slow ways. I have no idea what format the Toshiba is outputting files, but this is the tutorial I used to get my vids in to iMovie:

http://www.ehow.com/how_5847765_convert-flip-video-imovie.html

roidy
Aug 5, 2010, 09:26 AM
not to mention the time factor (over an hour for a 3 minute clip??)

Over an hour for a 3 minute clip:eek: What are you using to encode it a Commodore 64:D

No joking aside, surly everyone who own an AppleTV knows by now that it can't play back 1080p content. Can you not just record in 720p24 on the camera?

darkgroove
Aug 5, 2010, 09:32 AM
No joking aside, surly everyone who own an AppleTV knows by now that it can't play back 1080p content. Can you not just record in 720p24 on the camera?

Don't do that! That is like saying, "eh, I don't have a lot of space so I'll rip my CDs at 96kbps. Record in 1080p and if necessary, reencode the videos you want to watch on the ATV (or just buy a Mac mini and throw the headaches to the curb). I assume you are recording family memories, and in 10 years you don't want to kick yourself for having to watch a 720p video on your ultra-3d-holographic-future TV.

roidy
Aug 5, 2010, 09:42 AM
Don't do that! That is like saying, "eh, I don't have a lot of space so I'll rip my CDs at 96kbps. Record in 1080p and if necessary, reencode the videos you want to watch on the ATV

Record in 720p or convert 1080p to 720p for the AppleTV and you're still gonna end up with a 720p file:confused:

I assume you are recording family memories, and in 10 years you don't want to kick yourself for having to watch a 720p video on your ultra-3d-holographic-future TV.

In 10 years your still gonna have a 720p or 1080p file not a 3D file for your "ultra-3d-holographic-future TV". So now you're just talking rubbish. Technology is always going to be moving on so weather you record in 720p or 1080p in 10 years time it's gonna look the same as VHS does today.

I OP said he didn't want the hassle/time to re-encode them so I gave him a simple solution.

darkgroove
Aug 5, 2010, 09:45 AM
I was being a little sarcastic there. By the time 4K televisions come around I'm sure the industry will finally stop worrying about trying to stuff more pixels into a TV.

As far as reducing a hassle, then the answer would be to buy a mac mini and not have to reencode everything. Sometimes the best answers are the most complicated and the most expensive, and sometimes they aren't. If he doesn't want to convert anything and display it on his tv, then he should buy a mac mini that can display it in VLC or whatever.

roidy
Aug 5, 2010, 09:53 AM
I was being a little sarcastic there. By the time 4K televisions come around I'm sure the industry will finally stop worrying about trying to stuff more pixels into a TV.

While ever the industry thinks they can squeeze more money out of buyers they'll keep squeezing more pixels into screens:D

As far as reducing a hassle, then the answer would be to buy a mac mini and not have to reencode everything. Sometimes the best answers are the most complicated and the most expensive, and sometimes they aren't. If he doesn't want to convert anything and display it on his tv, then he should buy a mac mini that can display it in VLC or whatever.

Yep a mac mini is a great option if you're willing to invest a sizable amount of money into viewing your videos, not everybody can justify that kind of investment.

trickyred
Aug 5, 2010, 03:12 PM
Hi guys

Thanks for your input!! Idefinately had one eye on the future, as, yes, I am capturing family memories of my little ones, and would like them to look as good as possible for as long as possible, but at the minute I am using a 7 year old 1.25ghz G4 iMac (swivel head) which has been an amazing workhorse for me and I'm asking a lot of it to cope with what I want it to do. I'm just trying to wring the last drops out of the poor old thing!!

Thanks for your help and suggestions!!

And Roidy, I'm in Nottingham too!!

roidy
Aug 5, 2010, 03:59 PM
Really!! Small world. Which part?

trickyred
Aug 5, 2010, 04:26 PM
Really!! Small world. Which part?



Bestwood Park - you??

roidy
Aug 6, 2010, 02:15 AM
Calverton.