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Kwyjibo

Dec 1, 2004, 09:09 PM

MacUser1

Dec 1, 2004, 10:46 PM

after an opening scare to Vermont, the Jayhawks have looked well in their last two games (granted, they only played St. Joesph's and Nevada). But after Wake Forest's lost tonight, Kansas should be back at #1 in the polls, if Illinois doesn't jump them (they looked really good tonight :eek: ). We really don't get tested again until we go out an play Kentucky in Lexington, but by then we should be a finely tuned machine. Hopefully, this is the year we win it all, especially with our Senior leadership.

Rock, Chalk, Jayhawk, KU.

:)

Kwyjibo

Dec 1, 2004, 11:05 PM

I'm pretty sure that considering the quality of our play tonight, and if we win against arkansas, then we should be #1.

gwuMACaddict

Dec 1, 2004, 11:18 PM

maryland looked terrible against wisconson the other night, but they played like crap for the first half of last season and managed to win the acc last year. and this is a better team than that one, i'm feeling confident of their chances.

george washington played a tough game against wake forest early in the season, and look like they have the talent to run the a10 this year. looking for their first tourny apearence in a few years, have the athleticism to cause a few upsets.

emw

Dec 1, 2004, 11:25 PM

Read this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=96971) to see what I think.

ILL

INI

:D

gwuMACaddict

Dec 7, 2004, 07:30 AM

trying to revive this as the NCAA-BBALL discussion thread, and keep the other one strictly to the final 4....

anyone watch iowa state and UVA last night? iowa definitely got away with one there, UVA should have been able to close that out... but nice upset win for iowa state!

quackattack

Dec 7, 2004, 01:11 PM

So probably one of the biggest games before april happened today here on my campus

Wake Forest (1) @ Illinois (3) .... AND WE KILLED THEM.

I'm pretty pumped about our program, I have been since last year but man we passed our first two tests soooooo well. Who's your team and how are they doing after these five or so games ....

btw we're 67-3 over the for the past 5 seasons to current .... so its tough to come here and win.

Illinois looks really scary. I'm excited to see how my Ducks do against them on Saturday. Undefeated so far, Pulling for the upset! :D :D

-quack (maybe my nick makes alot more sense now ;) )

emw

Dec 7, 2004, 01:24 PM

Illinois looks really scary. I'm excited to see how my Ducks do against them on Saturday. Undefeated so far, Pulling for the upset! :D :D

-quack (maybe my nick makes alot more sense now ;) )

If they play like they did against Chicago State (18 Turnovers) you might have a pretty good chance. Also, my Illini will have played 3 games to your 1 in the past week, so they could start wearing down.

On the other hand, they're playing in their second home, the United Center, where they always play well (unlike the Bulls).

But I'm looking for it to be a great game. Hopefully Illinois will still be undefeated by then, after a tough game at Georgetown on Thursday.

gwuMACaddict

Dec 7, 2004, 01:45 PM

after a tough game at Georgetown on Thursday.

:confused: :confused: tough?? georgetown hasn't been a factor in about 3 seasons... i wouldn't worry about this game at all! tickits are INCREDIBLY easy to come by down here because no one wants to go!

emw

Dec 7, 2004, 02:19 PM

:confused: :confused: tough?? georgetown hasn't been a factor in about 3 seasons... i wouldn't worry about this game at all! tickits are INCREDIBLY easy to come by down here because no one wants to go!

I never like to downplay any opponent on the road - even if they haven't been playing exceptionally well. Especially since we're playing 4 games in 7 days, going from Arkansas to Champaign to Georgetown to Chicago. Not a lot of time for resting up. And you know G'Town will be geared up playing the #1 team.

gwuMACaddict

Dec 8, 2004, 07:06 AM

oaklahoma state certainly looked like the real deal last night... their bench was incredible, best sign of a great team

gwuMACaddict

Dec 8, 2004, 07:08 AM

And you know G'Town will be geared up playing the #1 team.

i see your point about being tired... but i think your bench could beat them. that program has suffered so much internal turmoil over the past few years that no attention has been payed to actually playing the game well.

but... who knows... watch me have to eat my words come this weekend... :o

Kwyjibo

Dec 8, 2004, 10:05 AM

Illinois has two different benches, it just depends on which shows up. We have the one thats awesome, and huge (Nick the chainsaw Smith) with tons of experience because they've been playing together.

Then theres the crappy one that doesn't do anything that came out the last game with Nick Smith playing point, and Shawn Pruitt giving up 5 turnovers, 3 Fouls and 2 Walks ... So our bench is either the best or the worst ...

emw

Dec 10, 2004, 06:10 PM

i see your point about being tired... but i think your bench could beat them. that program has suffered so much internal turmoil over the past few years that no attention has been payed to actually playing the game well.

but... who knows... watch me have to eat my words come this weekend... :o

Whew! Georgetown lead Illinois more than Illinois had been behind all year in total! I was worried there until the end of the first half, when Illinois started coming alive.

Now if we can just get by Oregon, I'll be happy. It will be the first time Illinois will ever hold the #1 spot for more than 1 week. But Saturday will be tough. 4th game in 8 days. Ouch.

stubeeef

Dec 11, 2004, 08:56 AM

Kuyu, good luck with indiana today, should be a good game to watch.

stubeeef

Jan 3, 2005, 11:36 PM

Cabrini715

Jan 3, 2005, 11:47 PM

Gonzaga is looking extremely strong this year especially with their win over oklahoma state and i think they'll go far. Sweet 16....definitely

Kwyjibo

Jan 3, 2005, 11:59 PM

I'd be more than happy if the zags only had one loss on the year because it immediately sets them behind illinois :)

still number one and still strong, I was so anxious when kansas nearly lost to Ok St. But a 2pt victory at home, that was a little bit weak. Its good to win the tough games tho. Kansas is finally getting some real tests hopefulyl they'll drop a game so that makes like 7 undefeated teams left.

The big ten is shaping up differently than I expected with iowa emerging and all and wisconsin being below average for wisconsin.

stubeeef

Jan 4, 2005, 12:36 AM

ACC is a hard life this year, a tank with nothing but sharks and everyone is hungry!
We did move to #3, which is higher than I want to be, good to be an underdawg and not the guy everyone wants to knock off.

Our next 3 games

Sat, Jan 8
(22) Maryland
12:00 pm

Wed, Jan 12
(9) Georgia Tech
7:00 pm

*Sat, Jan 15
at (4) Wake Forest
1:30 pm

That will be harsh!!!!!!! Especially ending that week at Wake!

emw

Jan 4, 2005, 12:39 AM

OK it is heating up, UNC #5, my boys are starting to crank-it is time to declare your team and start shouting!!!!!!!!!

I was torn up to watch my panthers lose thier playoff shot in the NFL, but now that they are gone, it is all NCAA Basketball and the Tarheels!

My predictions from November are here. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=96971) I still stand by them at this point. I don't see my Illini losing until they travel to Wisconsin.

I think if Illinois can win on the road at Wisconsin, Mich State, or Iowa, they will lock the Big Ten title. Iowa is tough, and so is MS, so they'll have to be careful.

zyuzin4

Jan 4, 2005, 04:58 AM

emw

Jan 4, 2005, 10:44 AM

gotta chime in and say that my team is the Illini. Have been since 02 when baby Dee, Deron , and James were freshies and now they are oh so good. I got to go to my first game against Chicago St. and it was a treat. I was afraid of Cincy but we won anyways!

Glad you had the opportunity to go see a game. The Illini have been my team since 1983, when my brother started school there. I have been even more of a fan since I started in 87. It's been a long time since the '89 Final Four, so here's hoping they go all the way this year!

m-dogg

Jan 4, 2005, 12:33 PM

Connecticut baby! This year is a bit of a rebuilding year, though they do have some talent. They beat Indiana but were upset by UMASS. The rest of their games were gimmies. They are just a little young - They haven't quite found themselves yet and have had trouble playing conistent basketball. Except Josh Boone, who's doing great!

Big East games start on Wednesday! If they make it far this year I'll be pleasantly surprised. And in the mean time I'll just reflect back on last season! :D

mwpeters8182

Jan 4, 2005, 12:50 PM

Just chiming in here, as no one's mentioned my Orange(men) yet. I had the opportunity to see them win it all while I was in school there, drove down to New Orleans for the Final Four. Other than a less-than-stellar showing against OK State, they've played very well, beating two ranked teams already, and an underrated Hofstra team.

This should be a good college basketball season. Good luck to everyone's team of choice.

MP

stubeeef

Jan 6, 2005, 10:38 PM

Has been a tough week for a lot of top 25 so far, Kentucky even almost ate it, and who would've believed UConn?

Some great games though.

emw

Jan 6, 2005, 11:22 PM

I keep thinking Kansas is going to fall, but they keep squeaking by. I look for an L to Kentucky this week though. Nothing against Kansas - Self leaving may have been the best thing for my Illini, what with Bruce Weber coming on board. It could be timing, but I think his motion offense has really worked out well.

As for others - I was shocked at West Virginia losing by 38 to Villanova. Ouch. Didn't see that one coming!

stubeeef

Jan 8, 2005, 01:40 PM

It is hard not to get excited, still 10 min 2 go, but my heels are OWNING Md!

Md is a great team, could be a bad day for them vs a good TarHeel day, but either way, whohooooooo!

emw

Jan 8, 2005, 01:45 PM

It is hard not to get excited, still 10 min 2 go, but my heels are OWNING Md!

Md is a great team, could be a bad day for them vs a good TarHeel day, but either way, whohooooooo!

Yeah, Md might just come back from 30 down in 8 minutes or so. I think it's okay to get a little excited! Tar Heel's are playing tough this year, in my opinion should be #2 behind Illinois instead of "barely winning at home" Kansas. Maybe they will be if Kansas loses at Kentucky tomorrow (and Illinois wins, which is not a given playing at Purdue).

So who knows, NC could be #1 next week?

stubeeef

Jan 8, 2005, 01:54 PM

I want Il to stay #1, UNC needs to keep striving for something, they are still in need of that goal.

Md is a darn fine team, so this is unexpected to me, There will be hell to pay when UNC goes to MD if this game continues to be a 30+ victory. Also scare UNC gets a bighead before GT or WFU also top notch teams.

stubeeef

Jan 8, 2005, 01:58 PM

UNC BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

emw

Jan 8, 2005, 03:18 PM

Nice job - 34 points! Hard to do against a team like Maryland, even at home!

stubeeef

Jan 9, 2005, 01:43 AM

Big day with lots of upsets, Iowa, Arizona, and Gonzaga.

Ill won of course, but had to work some. GT and Duke and WFU did ok too! UConn got a win under their belt again, and the season is starting to take shape!

ACC still doing good again!

MacNut

Jan 9, 2005, 01:54 AM

The Uconn women lost a nail bitter to Tennessee, The men are doing good but without Okafor they are vulnerable. Im hoping Duke will get defeated, They play good now but they haven't done so well in the big dance when it counts the last few years.

Kwyjibo

Jan 9, 2005, 10:51 AM

women's college basketball needs to pick fewer ranks or get rid of their ranks atogether. 25 seems like a good number, but I really don't think theres 25 good teams out there usually. What I've noticed when reading news about these games is theres always an upset. Now sure upsets are part of sports, but I mean that teams in 1-5 are always being upset by challengers. To me this means that there aren't any truly great teams in the league. They are probaly all more on par and need like a top 10 or something.

stubeeef

Jan 10, 2005, 08:10 PM

Tobacco Road, watch out!!!

UNC #3
WFU #4
DUKE #5

stubeeef

Jan 12, 2005, 08:27 PM

Ok bball fans, IL had to work the first half against Purdue. UNC ate MD, and I can't believe how well they are doing against GT! Now both MD and GT have been home games, Wake on Sat is on the road (down the street from me) and against a pretty darn good team.

Right now UNC is whooping GT over 23 pts with less than 13min to go in 2nd half. Looks like it is going well!

I think UNC has the team if everyone stays healthy! :D

emw

Jan 13, 2005, 12:56 AM

emw

Jan 13, 2005, 12:56 AM

Edit: Since I somehow ended up with 3 duplicate posts, I'll have to add in some original content.

I still can't see how the 'Heels aren't ranked #2. I mean, they've pretty much spanked everyone they've played (we'll forget about Santa Clara), while Kansas is winning by 2-8 points, even at home. What gives?

I know Kansas just won a couple of road games, which is nice since they're a little shorthanded, but they haven't shown all that much to me so far.

emw

Jan 13, 2005, 12:56 AM

Ok bball fans, IL had to work the first half against Purdue.

Edit: Whew, last duplicate post to be revised!

Considering the rivalry there (Illinois beat them at home last year as well), I'm not surprised Purdue came out firing, especially gunning for the #1 team. Illinois was a little flat, for sure, and as such were behind at half for the first time this year. But that lasted, what, about a minute into the second half? I'll be interested to see how they come out against Northwestern this weekend, given that the 'Cats have lost some games at home recently, and Illinois can secure their best starting record ever at 18-0.

stubeeef

Jan 13, 2005, 09:56 AM

emw, got the hiccups? :D

emw

Jan 13, 2005, 10:11 AM

You'd think. I swear I only hit submit once - but then the server gave some strange error when loading the page (gateway timeout, vs. typical server busy message) so I just closed out. Hmmm. Of course if was almost midnight, so I may have been hallucinating the whole thing. :o

stubeeef

Jan 15, 2005, 11:17 AM

Well it will be a clash of titans, UNC Chapel Hill battles Wake Forest in Winston Salem at 1:30pm est sat 15th, this will be titanic-may the best team from Chapel Hill win!

I am nervous, excited, and anticipatory!

stubeeef

Jan 15, 2005, 01:55 PM

IT'S A DONNYBROOK! UNC-WFU

stubeeef

Jan 15, 2005, 02:54 PM

emw

Jan 15, 2005, 03:00 PM

Well It seems all good things must come to an end, WFU is killing us (UNC)!

May pull it out, but things will have to change alot to do it, WFU is looking great. We keep throwing up the quick brick. :(
Always tough to play on the road, especially against a team like WF, who's really going to protect their house.

I'm somewhat concerned about Illinois at NWU, just because the 'Cats have played Illinois well, and upset them last year. It'll be an interesting game, but I'll have to follow it via mMode on my cell phone, since I'll be out with the family :eek:

stubeeef

Jan 15, 2005, 03:40 PM

UNC is trying to make a comeback, mcants is a one man show right now, will be a red hot ending!

emw

Jan 15, 2005, 03:57 PM

Well, they fought the good fight. I don't think this will hurt them too much, but I don't think Wake has to play at UNC, do they?

stubeeef

Jan 15, 2005, 04:14 PM

yea, I forgot since the ACC got so big with extra teams, so they won't do the twice each season thing this year, DARN!

Kwyjibo

Jan 15, 2005, 04:18 PM

thank god, there was some real buzz around UNC and I think any 12+ pt victory might have unseated illinois as number one because the media is so in love with every team on tobacco road. I'm not too worried about the cats but we just need to make sure we don't play down to them, we need to make them play our game like we did to penn state.

stubeeef

Jan 15, 2005, 07:02 PM

It is always hard to play a top ranked team in their own house! Bring them thar illini to the dean domes and lets try it there! (Cause I don't want to play em in Illini country).

Kwyjibo

Jan 15, 2005, 07:23 PM

(Cause I don't want to play em in Illini country).

not to get ahead of ourselves here but illinois fans have something very awesome as a reward for a #1 seed. Indianapolis, Chicago, STL (lets hope), if THEY can keep winning in the tourney, thats the progression they would follow with a #1 seed, now thats practically homefield advantage all the way to the top, I mean indianapolis is 2 hours away from champaign, Chicago 3 and STL like less than 4 so there would be plenty of crazy illini fans ... one can dream. they might as well have the whole tourney in champaign ....

emw

Jan 15, 2005, 10:09 PM

Yes, Illinois would have it good if they keep playing well and get that #1 seed. That would give them a good shot at the title just because of the venue (which, unfortunately, may taint the title in some people's minds if it were to happen).

But I don't want to speak too soon - we still have some tough road games at Wisconsin, Mich State, Iowa...

stubeeef

Jan 18, 2005, 10:15 PM

So you want to play some hoops on the road.......

UNC does the roadtrip to Wake Forest and gets pounded!

Wake goes ACC trip'n down to ole FSU (1-3 in acc) an unranked team and WTF!!!!! FSU beats'm in OT! HaHaHa! Welcome to home games in the ACC.

How do the rankings absorb this mess? You have to laugh (wake fans can now cry, at least when UNC lost to Wake at home they #4 in the country).

So how R U feeling about your team this week?

emw

Jan 20, 2005, 11:44 PM

So how R U feeling about your team this week?Relieved that they snuck by Iowa! Man, that was a nail-biter; the first one of the year for Illinois. Hopefully it gave them a wake up call so they'll be hungry at Wisconsin next week. That's one I'm really worried about.

Mav451

Jan 21, 2005, 12:02 AM

I'm feeling ok about Maryland. We just lost DJ for the season on some kind of ligament injury, so we do lose a bit on our defensive intensity there. However, this means more PT for McCray and Jones. In Jones, in particular, after what I saw during Temple game :)

We got NC State this coming Sunday, and then Duke on the day school starts.

*shaking head*

What a way to start the semester, puahah. People screaming/yelling outside (that is whether we win or lose). They were flyers passed out during the VA game announcing that Cole would be open for students to watch the game in...hrmmm

stubeeef

Jan 21, 2005, 03:17 AM

Been flying my brains out, upside down sked, woke up in a hotel in Burbank this afternoon saw the Illni and iowa highlights on espn-man I wished I had seen that game!

It seems some teams like UNC Wake Illini and some others are blowing teams out then following with a loss or struggle. Gonna be interesting coming around the first turn and into the back stretch, everyone vying for the high home seed.

Kwyjibo

Jan 21, 2005, 10:49 AM

we had our first close game and we won it ... how many times has kansas has closes wins at home , like 4+ .... it happens to every team and its bound to happen in the big ten especially when we're ranked 1 we got a target on our back.

I saw the first half and most of OT in the game, I had a "pre -exam" last night at 7 and as soon as I got out I was jogging home (not running cuz it was so slippery) with my cell phone in hand which was placed next to a TV ... I love my team.

The illini needed this game, it deflates the ballon going into Wisc and gives us a better shot. I really hate how we're somehow the underdogs going in there, I mean yeah playing on the road is tough, but we've absolutely DOMINATED three ranked teams, one of whom was #1 .... I mean if we lose we lose but the way ESPN talks up us , its like were made of toothpicks and just ready to crumble. We also play up / down to our opponents and I think the whole team will take these Wisc / Mich State / Iowa road games seriously. I expect our first loss to come from a team we don't expect like Michigan.

One more thing that pissed me off, i have a few friends who goto IOWA, and they keep talking about how they won this game and I'm like no .... check the score. then they go in a rant about they're hurt and what not like whining babies, and then they talk about our terrible football team. NEWS FLASH football does not equal basketball at all. Good job IOWA you beat us at our homecoming back in October, its January nearly February now folks, its either basketball time or pre-baseball time stop trying to redeem your team because we had a god awful football season.

stubeeef

Jan 21, 2005, 02:25 PM

I saw the first half and most of OT in the game, I had a "pre -exam" last night at 7 and as soon as I got out I was jogging home (not running cuz it was so slippery) with my cell phone in hand which was placed next to a TV ... I love my team.

LOL, I know what you mean, some Carolina games are on when I am flying, so I tune in AM radio stations on a navigational aid called ADF, it covers those freqs too. then listen in the cockpit and sometimes pipe it back to the passengers.

One more thing that pissed me off, i have a few friends who goto IOWA, and they keep talking about how they won this game and I'm like no .... check the score.

It is the mark of champions, they find away to win in the tough games!

zyuzin4

Jan 22, 2005, 08:26 AM

LOL, I know what you mean, some Carolina games are on when I am flying, so I tune in AM radio stations on a navigational aid called ADF, it covers those freqs too. then listen in the cockpit and sometimes pipe it back to the passengers.

It is the mark of champions, they find away to win in the tough games!

what do you fly? I remember my instructor needed to check the Red Sox score and I had no clue the ADF could tune AM radio frequencies lol

stubeeef

Jan 22, 2005, 11:10 AM

what do you fly? I remember my instructor needed to check the Red Sox score and I had no clue the ADF could tune AM radio frequencies lol

Gulfstream 100 (http://www.gulfstream.com/g100/)

stubeeef

Jan 22, 2005, 11:51 AM

The skinny on ACC frustration this year! I HATE THERE WILL BE NO REVENGE AGAINST WFU AT THE DEAN DOME THIS YEAR!!! DAMN!
Reality is finally starting to slap Atlantic Coast Conference basketball in the face.

When the league ramped its football presence by expanding -- adding Miami (Fla.) and Virginia Tech this season plus Boston College next season -- ACC hoops knew it would take a hit. "Super conferences" aren't super when it comes to balanced scheduling.

Not until last week did the impact of expansion hit home. Duke won at North Carolina State, but there won't be a return chance for the Wolfpack in Durham. Wake Forest beat North Carolina at home, but the only chance the Tar Heels will have for revenge is either in the ACC or NCAA tournaments.

The unbalanced ACC schedule calls for Duke-N.C. State and Wake Forest-North Carolina to be single-game series. Before expansion, only World War II had kept the Tar Heels and Demon Deacons from playing a home-and-home series.

"Whatever will happen in football, it won't replace the passion of a basketball home-and-home series like Duke-N.C. State," Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "It's a shame, it's a heavy price.

"You've got to try and make the schedule as equal as it can be, even though it never can be equal."

The Big 12 Conference faced similar problems in football when the schedule did away with an annual Oklahoma-Nebraska game. However, in ACC country it's sacrilegious to not have the Big Four -- North Carolina, Duke, N.C. State and Wake Forest -- playing a round-robin schedule.

Duke vs. North Carolina, Duke vs. Wake Forest and North Carolina vs. North Carolina State will play home-and-home this season. But not having a balanced schedule this season and in the future will create questions of equity when it comes to the regular-season champion.

emw

Jan 22, 2005, 01:43 PM

Anybody watching the Kansas-Villanova game? Holy crap! Nova's up by 30 with 8 minutes left. As an Illinois fan, you can probably guess who I'm routing for...

Kmacripple

Jan 22, 2005, 01:46 PM

Kansas is down 30 to Villanova. Kansas is so overated. They have played a week schedule. This is only their third road game all year! It was only a matter of time before they got exposed.

stubeeef

Jan 22, 2005, 02:13 PM

Anybody watching the Kansas-Villanova game? Holy crap! Nova's up by 30 with 8 minutes left. As an Illinois fan, you can probably guess who I'm routing for...

I was looking at that matchup this morning and thought "you just never know bout nova". Very Interesting thanks for the update-in a hotel in lovely Burbank.

Kwyjibo

Jan 22, 2005, 02:45 PM

duke losing tonight would be nice too, that way incase illinois loses in Wisc its not so bad.

stubeeef

Jan 22, 2005, 10:46 PM

Another wild one, VT over GT at GT, Pitt is making a run at UConn right now-down 1 pt. Kansas have'n a day they should have had weeks ago. (pitt now up over uconn). Of course my Heels had a nice day in the ole Dean Dome, always good to be at home.

Most eyes will go to the NFL on Sunday (I am hoping for Atl and Pitt). But watch those NCAA Games while you're snowed in this week.

stubeeef

Jan 22, 2005, 10:53 PM

Pitt UConn game finishing with heat! Fun one to watch-go pit!

PITT SPANKS UCONN AT UCONN!

emw

Jan 24, 2005, 11:57 AM

Big week this week. Duke v. Maryland. BC v. Providence. Illinois v. Wisconsin. How many unbeatens will remain by the end of the week?

I'm concerned my Illini will fall at Wisconsin. We haven't won there since, what, 2000? If there's ever a year to win, this is it. Hopefully Iowa was a wake-up call and they'll be ready.

I still think my Final Four Predictions (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=96971) are strong, even with Kansas losing badly at 'Nova. We'll see in a couple of months, I suppose, but this week will be a defining one for Illinois at least.

Mav451

Jan 24, 2005, 02:15 PM

...Maryland had its worst game, I would say, of the decade yesterday.

=(

We were down 53-27 at the half, I thought I was dreaming. We made a good run at the end to get within 10, but it fell short after the refs called 2 quick fouls on McCray. The game was over then ;(

I'm not really sure how we're gonna respond, but I hope its good.

Koodauw

Jan 24, 2005, 02:42 PM

I'm concerned my Illini will fall at Wisconsin. We haven't won there since, what, 2000? If there's ever a year to win, this is it. Hopefully Iowa was a wake-up call and they'll be ready.

Are you afraid of Wisconsin's 38 game home winning streak? This was takin after another UI road game. ;)

Kmacripple

Jan 24, 2005, 02:51 PM

stubeeef

Jan 24, 2005, 02:53 PM

Speaking of home games, anyone else notice that Duke has played zero tough road games all year. With the exception of Mich St. and Oklahoma, they really haven't played anyone. Next month they get Wake, G Tech, N. Carolina, and Maryland. We will find out if they are for real.

I agree, We need to see dook get on with some powerhouse teams. They always seem to be for real, but I too want to see them get a challenge.

emw

Jan 24, 2005, 04:51 PM

I agree, We need to see dook get on with some powerhouse teams. They always seem to be for real, but I too want to see them get a challenge.ESPN had an interesting article (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=1966924) on the Duke scheduling phenomenon. You might enjoy it.

emw

Jan 24, 2005, 04:53 PM

Are you afraid of Wisconsin's 38 game home winning streak? This was takin after another UI road game. ;)I wouldn't say I'm afraid of the streak - I am, however, concerned about playing the Badgers, who are a very good team, on their home court when they're going to be fired up to be the first to beat Illinois this year. Any way you cut it, it's a tough game. I think Illinois will match up well with them if our bigs play to their potential, as opposed to what they did against Iowa.

Mav451

Jan 24, 2005, 04:59 PM

Dude, don't worry about Wisconsin.

This is one of Maryland's toughest years (lack of a true post-player, injuries), and we only lost by 5 when Gilchrist went 2-14.

The key is matching their 3pt shooting >> during the MSU game they pointed out how they live/die by that. MD has the worst 3pt-shooting AND defense this year. I'm pretty sure Illinois doesn't have those problems, so I'm expecting a solid win down there for you guys. Mind you Bo Ryan can work the officials, though its still far from Tobacco Road bias.

emw

Jan 24, 2005, 06:12 PM

Dude, don't worry about Wisconsin.Thanks for the vote of confidence. You make me feel better about it - although basically I'm just preparing for the potential, while really believing Illinois will win. I think they can go unbeaten this year.

Kmacripple

Jan 24, 2005, 06:39 PM

I think they can go unbeaten this year.

Famous last words. That is very difficult, but it may actually happen with the Big Ten down a little. I don't seem to recall any Big Ten team going undefeated since IU did it twice in a row in the 70's. The Badgers are tough at home, but I think they are going to have problems with Illinois. I think the streak ends. (That way Duke won't move up to number 1.) :)

stubeeef

Jan 25, 2005, 01:20 AM

Illini underdog at Wisc?

link (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpc2RicmIxBF9TAzk1ODYyMjM4BHNlYwN0aA--?slug=ap-illinois-wisconsinstreak&prov=ap&type=lgns)

zyuzin4

Jan 25, 2005, 05:21 AM

I'm scared for tomorrow. I can't even watch the game because I have to work but I'll tivo it. The Iowa game got tivo'ed and the recording stopped midway through the game and look what almost happened.

emw

Jan 25, 2005, 01:03 PM

Illini underdog at Wisc?

link (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpc2RicmIxBF9TAzk1ODYyMjM4BHNlYwN0aA--?slug=ap-illinois-wisconsinstreak&prov=ap&type=lgns)
It's all mind games.

emw

Jan 25, 2005, 11:06 PM

YES! Can we all say 20-0, baby?! Sweet win, Illinois.

Mav451

Jan 25, 2005, 11:24 PM

emw

Jan 26, 2005, 10:02 AM

I'm really happy with the way they played last night - they showed some great poise coming from behind like that on the road. Showed me a lot about their character - I'm even more convinced that they can go undefeated into the tourney now.

stubeeef

Jan 26, 2005, 09:27 PM

congrats Illini fans, (damn it ;) )! Well I know I'm worried, just got to make sure you get in a really tough bracket and not play UNC!

Missed the game (working) but am sure it was filled with excitement.

I must prepare for my own ghosts over the next 2 weeks! Yikes

Go Heels, beat everyone!

emw

Jan 26, 2005, 11:13 PM

Heh you guys deserved the win. The two sick passes to Augustine for dunks ended the game right there. Though Illinois didn't exactly have a good 3pt defense, you guys neutralized it with 3pt shooting of your own.I missed most of the Duke game, but saw the last few minutes. They really cracked under pressure - Maryland played a great game!

Yarrrr

Jan 26, 2005, 11:28 PM

I think the Illini can go undefeated if they win at Michigan State. I was so happy to see the way they responded to adversity. To come from behind in one of the roughest places to play shows that they have the determination of a possible champion. I am proud to be an Illini fan.

Oskeewowwow!

emw

Jan 26, 2005, 11:43 PM

I am proud to be an Illini fan.I L L ...

Yarrrr

Jan 26, 2005, 11:54 PM

I N I!

Mav451

Jan 27, 2005, 12:06 AM

I missed most of the Duke game, but saw the last few minutes. They really cracked under pressure - Maryland played a great game!

I'm smiling =D
http://img106.exs.cx/img106/5684/dooklosers5hd.jpg

stubeeef

Jan 27, 2005, 06:27 AM

Mav-thanks for that-it was priceless!

Got one question! Who is on 1st? Everyone seems to have beaten the other guy, UNC beats FSU and MD, FSU beats WFU and MD beats DOOK, WFU beats MD and UNC, and blah blah blah.....
Thank goodness someone keeps up with it cause I'm getting dizzy. ACC is heating up!

Good Job MD!

gwuMACaddict

Jan 27, 2005, 07:35 AM

such a great game last night! bouncing all around the room watching my terps win! about time! few bad losses last week... sheesh...

stubeef, illinois is ranked 1 right now

stubeeef

Jan 27, 2005, 07:44 AM

You are a Genius! (sorry couldn't resist-did ID with your other thread!)

I didn't mean like who is 1st, but that the ACC seems to be tightening up. I was very happy to hear of the victory, I didn't get to see the game, I don't take time out to watch dook home games. (usually depressing for me). It seems that MD should get some valuable and needed rejuvenation from that game. Glad UNC already got one game on em already.

Illini are like a frieght train right now, someone needs to derail that ride. Although undefeated in the regular and conf tournament might actually put HUGE pressure on em in a one goof and you're gone March Madness.

gwuMACaddict

Jan 27, 2005, 09:07 AM

You are a Genius! (sorry couldn't resist-did ID with your other thread!).

i just *love* how everyone feels the need to brag about how smart they are around here. it gets so damn old so quick... but thats another thread...

i think the best acc team is probably unc or duke... but who knows... last year maryland was able to win the acc... thats why they play the games! :D

stubeeef

Jan 27, 2005, 09:32 AM

i just *love* how everyone feels the need to brag about how smart they are around here. it gets so damn old so quick... but thats another thread...

i think the best acc team is probably unc or duke... but who knows... last year maryland was able to win the acc... thats why they play the games! :D

Well my mensa (http://www.mensa.org/home.php) dues have never been paid, or was it Menza (http://www.menza.com/)?

Oh well what ever!

You have to show up to win in the ACC, but to beat dook at dook is an accomplishment none the less! Home games are expected to be a win, and none more so than at dook. MD pulled one of the biggest upsets this year, no doubt.

emw

Jan 27, 2005, 10:18 AM

Illini are like a frieght train right now, someone needs to derail that ride.Don't forget BC, now... I hate to have all the pressure on my Illini. Besides, they have plenty of tough road games left before the NCAA tournament - MSU, Iowa, Ohio State. None are gimme's, even though I expect them to win them all ;)

zyuzin4

Jan 27, 2005, 10:32 AM

oh to be in Champaign right now =(

stubeeef

Jan 27, 2005, 12:19 PM

oh to be in Champaign right now =(

I don't know-it is bubbly and can produce a big hangover! :D

stubeeef

Jan 27, 2005, 06:02 PM

Wake will have their hands full, they are at Georgia Tech tonight-I am pulling for GT (not normal for me) to give UNC some breathing room at the top of the ACC, It is still crowded up there.

Kwyjibo

Jan 27, 2005, 09:25 PM

I don't know-it is bubbly and can produce a big hangover! :D

u don't even know until you've celebrated unoffical st. patricks day here ... best holiday ever

stubeeef

Jan 27, 2005, 09:36 PM

u don't even know until you've celebrated unoffical st. patricks day here ... best holiday ever

Well so far Georgia Tech is having fun doing the drinking and Wake is being set up for a hangover, GT is up over 10 points starting the 2nd half. :D

emw

Jan 27, 2005, 11:39 PM

Wake will have their hands full, they are at Georgia Tech tonight-I am pulling for GT (not normal for me) to give UNC some breathing room at the top of the ACC, It is still crowded up there.You got your wish! GT 102-101 over WF in OT. Sweet.

alex_ant

Jan 28, 2005, 03:02 AM

Kwyjibo - Good luck against my Gophers on Saturday (not that you'll need it) - we are probably gonna rest our star center and I'll be thrilled if we can finish it out behind by less than 20. I really hope the you go all the way this year, the Big Ten needs more respect. And thanks for breaking the Badgers home winning streak... that was sweeeeet.

- alex_ant, U of MN alum

stubeeef

Jan 28, 2005, 08:50 AM

You got your wish! GT 102-101 over WF in OT. Sweet.

Wake gave'm a run at the end, but couldn't overcome the defecit.

I haven't checked but I think that UNC and Dook should be tied with one ACC loss.

kuyu

Jan 28, 2005, 02:28 PM

Kentucky update:

Well, we haven't been getting much press lately. However, the last time we started the year off this well was 1997-1998, when we won the national championship. As of today we are ranked 6th in the nation. But with number 2 duke losing at home to unranked maryland, and number 5 wake going down to GT, we should be moving up to at least 4.

We are averaging 84 ppg. Also, Kentucky is the only undefeated team in an admittedly weak SEC. However, the strangest thing is that we don't have a single statistical leader in any catagory. PPG, blocks, steals, minutes, rebounds, etc. are all led by players on other teams. The only thing our team does best is win.

Can't wait until March and that elusive Number Eight (as well our 43 SEC championship; more than every other team in the league COMBINED!!!)

emw

Jan 28, 2005, 02:39 PM

stubeeef

Jan 28, 2005, 03:36 PM

I think Kentuky played UNC well, the score didn't show it, if I remember right Kentucky went down 15 or so early and it was too much, they kept about the same number of pts back the whole game, if not for the run up in score early they would have had a shot at the end. Most people like Kentucky a lot, they think they need one more year to be all they can be.

See ya in the top five next week, as we all line up behind the Illini.

stubeeef

Jan 29, 2005, 01:08 PM

OK it is another road ACC game for UNC, now they are up at the half 62-26 against UVA, still another half to play (teehee) and you never want to bet on it too early, so will wait 30 seconds before I do the victory dance!!!!!!

GO HEELS!

edit: this is for you gwuMAC -- Hi, my team wins alot of games by a lot of points, right now they are up 40pts on a team on the road, and have beaten other top 5 and 10 ranked teams this year, do you think they might make it to the NCAA tournament? I really hope so, cause it is important to me and my parents! Thanks for your replies! :) {parody of IQ thread}

emw

Jan 29, 2005, 04:32 PM

OK it is another road ACC game for UNC, now they are up at the half 62-26 against UVA, still another half to play (teehee) and you never want to bet on it too early, so will wait 30 seconds before I do the victory dance!!!!!!Hey, be careful there. Virginia almost came back - I mean, they only lost by, what, 34 at the end? They outscored your overrated Heels by 2 in the second half, so don't get all pumped about it. ;)

Meanwhile, Illinois continues to "struggle," sneaking by Minnesota with only 23 points to spare. Can't wait 'til Tuesday in East Lansing. Too bad I'm going to miss most of it due to work :(

stubeeef

Jan 29, 2005, 06:27 PM

I think the Heels were up by over 50 at one point, I mean that is spanking a home team.

Ya, the Illini managed to pull out a narrow home victory, I hope they covered the spread :p !

Harder games for both are on the horizon, so lets revel while we can! :cool:

Kwyjibo

Jan 29, 2005, 06:54 PM

stubeeef

Jan 29, 2005, 07:30 PM

well a few ranked teams had a hard day so far, notably Arizona

stubeeef

Jan 30, 2005, 10:56 AM

Go Virginia Tech, BEAT dook!!!!!

( I have a dream!) :D

Inspector Lee

Jan 30, 2005, 12:03 PM

my fearless prediction,

the illini will win at michigan state ... SHOCKING

Ohhhh realllly???

Many people here are not optimistic about State's chances on Tuesday. It entirely depends on which MSU team shows up. To be brutally honest, their current roster has not won a big time game (home or away) since they beat Florida in the 2003 tournament and that game was in St. Pete and basically a road game (I think they won by over 20).

Nonetheless, Paul Davis (C) did not play last night due to an ankle sprain but it was entirely precautionary. He played last Thursday against Michigan but last night was a non-conference game and there is no point rolling the dice.

I agree with your statement that Illinois will stumble against a lesser foe (if they stumble). I can't see them going undefeated all the way through the tournament though because the added pressure would be unreal. The last time that happened was Indiana 1976. I think if you are an Illinois fan and you could choose when they'd lose, it would be a week or two before the Big Ten tournament. Let them re-focus, roll off 4-5 wins, win the Big Ten tournament (3 more wins) and go into March Madness on a 7,8,9 game winning streak. Going undefeated the whole season and then losing in the conference championship is bad karma and a recipe for a quick exit.

I will give my fearless prediction within the next 36 hours...

stubeeef

Jan 30, 2005, 07:12 PM

Maryland fans rejoice - looks like you may send GT out of the top 25!

Always good to play at home!

gwuMACaddict

Jan 30, 2005, 10:32 PM

Maryland fans rejoice - looks like you may send GT out of the top 25!

Always good to play at home!

or on the road againts duke excited to see where duke drops after the loss to md :D :rolleyes:

Mav451

Jan 31, 2005, 01:01 AM

I don't know bout you, but Trav getting 15 boards tonite says alot to me (in face of the criticism against him of being "soft"); especially when you realize he only averages 6.4 boards on the season.

And Ibekwe's inspired play coming from the bench since Duke:

14.5 pts / 9 boards.

Its a heck of a improvement from his 9pts / 7 boards avg for the year.

stubeeef

Jan 31, 2005, 03:30 AM

so gwu and mav........

Is MD back from wandering the bottom........And as only you and I know so well, it is hard to be just good when in the ACC.

Well welcome back, you certainly have had a good week! Stay away from UNC with that stuff though! :D

edit: gwuMAC, no comment from post #107?

gwuMACaddict

Jan 31, 2005, 07:11 AM

maryland pulled this same crap last year, losing ridiculous games and then winning the acc tourney... while i think that is less likely this year (mostly due to the fact that the unc players are built like 30year old nba stars), it could still happen...

maryland's strength has always been their bench, if the bench can continue to produce, i'm still excited about the season.

and thank gracious gw finally got another win. against dayton at home... losing to umass and richmond was pitiful...

as for post 107... :rolleyes: ;) :D

unc is scary

stubeeef

Jan 31, 2005, 08:21 AM

WOW, UConn continues the slide, maybe they have been passed the ball from MD?

emw

Jan 31, 2005, 09:52 AM

my fearless prediction,

the illini will win at michigan state ... SHOCKING

theres a good chance the illini will lose a smaller game, to like michigan or indiana, and it won't be them beating us, it will probably be us beating us. This team looked great as usual today and controlled most aspects of the game, some solid rebounding skills would definitely help me sit easier.I agree Illinois will win at MSU. But I don't agree they'll lose to a lesser team. If they lose, it will be to someone like UNC that can give them interior matchup problems. I like Augustine and Smith, but Smith isn't a true interior player - he's just tall. Augustine has tremendous potential, as he's shown a few times, but he can be spotty.

stubeeef

Jan 31, 2005, 10:09 AM

a quick matchup of the top 5 avg scorers of Illini and UNC

edit: Ilini on left Unc on right

emw

Jan 31, 2005, 10:46 AM

a quick matchup of the top 5 avg scorers of Illini and UNC

edit: Ilini on left Unc on rightThe stats for these top 5 pretty much sum up the team comparison as well. UNC scores and rebounds better, Illinois has a better Assist to TO ratio. Otherwise, they're fairly evenly (numerically) matched. Hard to compare between two leagues, though, since they've only shared one opponent so far, and even that was under quite different circumstances. Needless to say, it would be a good game if it happens.

stubeeef

Jan 31, 2005, 11:33 AM

what time does the top 25 polls update? Been waiting to see UNC #2 and dook dropping down! :D

emw

Jan 31, 2005, 11:55 AM

what time does the top 25 polls update? Been waiting to see UNC #2 and dook dropping down! :DGenerally in the PM, sometime after about 2:00pm Central Time, in general. ESPN is slower than SI.com, though, in posting AP numbers since they have to wait for their coaches poll to finish. I imagine UNC may even garner some #1 votes, just like Duke did last week. Well, at least one :D

stubeeef

Jan 31, 2005, 12:18 PM

Generally in the PM, sometime after about 2:00pm Central Time, in general. ESPN is slower than SI.com, though, in posting AP numbers since they have to wait for their coaches poll to finish. I imagine UNC may even garner some #1 votes, just like Duke did last week. Well, at least one :D

Well there is no question who is #1 and they have earned it, I will be very happy to have my Heels move up to #2 and REPLACE arch rival dook, I will be so very very happy to see that!!!

UNC gets to play dook on the 9th I think, that will be a GIANT game, but alass it is at dook, but if revenge is needed it will be the last game of regular season play, march 6th (sun)! If UNC can stay healthy, and not defeat themselves - make dook beat UNC - then there is a good chance we can win that game and start locking up the regular season championship - of course there is still MD to play again, and they will want blood this time, and are on a roll, I am not discounting the rest of the ACC either, just know we have a good chance in every game this year, unlike the last few. Winning the regular season is a huge accomplishment in the ACC these days!

On topic, I would expect BC to start moving up as well, not as familiar with the schedule they have played this year, how difficult, and not read up on them, but they seem real!

It is fun to watch as the last 6 weeks of regular and confer championship play comes to a head! keeping healthy players here in is vital to all the top teams, bench or not, starters matter!

stubeeef

Jan 31, 2005, 03:41 PM

thank you Maryland, and welcome back! In the top 25 at 22, and dropped dook by 2 from 2 to 4th, a rising tide lifts all boats, UNC sits at #2 and awaits david to slay golieth.

OF NOTE: ILLINI GOT EVERY VOTE -UNANIMOUS #1!

Mav451

Jan 31, 2005, 04:44 PM

Holy moly.

...

:)

Btw stubeef, what is your college team? I can't figure it out from your posts. Or perhaps you're more of a stats guy?

stubeeef

Jan 31, 2005, 05:22 PM

Holy moly.

...

:)

Btw stubeef, what is your college team? I can't figure it out from your posts. Or perhaps you're more of a stats guy?

I AM A TARHEEL! :D

emw

Jan 31, 2005, 06:08 PM

Btw stubeef, what is your college team? I can't figure it out from your posts. Or perhaps you're more of a stats guy?You're kidding, right?!

I'm hoping for a UofI/UNC final.

Mav451

Jan 31, 2005, 06:15 PM

Well i couldn't sense much excitement from him when duke went down.

Then again, maybe its cuz he's waiting for that to happen on Feb 9th...

Kwyjibo

Jan 31, 2005, 06:36 PM

yayy for unanimous, I think the rankings are probably the most accurate they've been all season, not that illinois deserves all the #1 votes well right now they do but I'm just saying that I think the order is well.

stubeeef

Jan 31, 2005, 07:20 PM

Well i couldn't sense much excitement from him when duke went down.

Then again, maybe its cuz he's waiting for that to happen on Feb 9th...

:confused:

Stubeeef
Well there is no question who is #1 and they have earned it, I will be very happy to have my Heels move up to #2 and REPLACE arch rival dook, I will be so very very happy to see that!!!

UNC gets to play dook on the 9th I think, that will be a GIANT game, but alass it is at dook, but if revenge is needed it will be the last game of regular season play, march 6th (sun)! If UNC can stay healthy, and not defeat themselves - make dook beat UNC - then there is a good chance we can win that game and start locking up the regular season championship - of course there is still MD to play again, and they will want blood this time, and are on a roll, I am not discounting the rest of the ACC either, just know we have a good chance in every game this year, unlike the last few. Winning the regular season is a huge accomplishment in the ACC these days!

Mav451

Jan 31, 2005, 07:25 PM

oops. I'm on another sports board, the regulars there are alot more animated. I guess that's all i have to say haha.

Inspector Lee

Feb 1, 2005, 11:58 AM

MSU is 95-6 in their last 101 games at Breslin and the last Illinois win came in 1997 (66-63). That being said, MSU has lost 11 games in a row to ranked opponents and is 1-13 against #1 ranked teams. All in all, these guys are due and if they cannot get it together tonight, I don't see them doing much the rest of the season. Everybody in town here has been waiting, waiting several years for this team to step up. It seems they lack moxie and haven't even hung a Big Ten champs banner. If they don't win tonight, the wheels will fall off in Iowa City on Saturday.

Nonetheless, I anticipate Muhammad Ali will address the team before the game (wonder what their record is when he does) and State will come out and get the monkey off their back - finally.

Final Score: MSU 77 Illinois 70

Side note: I hear tickets are going for $850. Unfortunately, I drew straws before the season began and didn't get this game.

Kmacripple

Feb 1, 2005, 02:54 PM

Inspector Lee

Feb 1, 2005, 03:51 PM

If Illinois can win tonight, I don't know if anyone else in the Big Ten can beat them. I think Illinois will win, but would not be shocked to see MSU win. It should be a great game. If Ill. loses, the polls will be interesting next week.

I don't think they have any more stumbling blocks after tonight unless they have to go to Minnesota which is always a difficult venue due to the elevated floor. Michigan is too banged up and their leading scorer is suspended after roughing up his girl.

Should be an absolute dandy tonight...

stubeeef

Feb 1, 2005, 07:46 PM

Not to be mean, just self centered and oneway, but GO MICH ST!

Sorry guys, but the end justifies the means.

Kwyjibo

Feb 1, 2005, 08:32 PM

check the score stu, I'm not gonna get ahead of myself, any road game is tough. the next big challenge is at iowa but pierce is hurt so we'll see.

stubeeef

Feb 1, 2005, 09:14 PM

Well I have to try, it was a no brainer that Ill was gonna win, but had to send some positive waves to MSU.
Good Game, uptill Illini hit the gas pedal anyway!

BTW to you get Vital's comments on UNC?

Kmacripple

Feb 1, 2005, 09:15 PM

Maryland got killed by Clemson. Maryland is so inconsistent, they beat Duke and then lose tonight to a bad team. They go right back out of the rankings after getting back in. Strange team.

Kwyjibo

Feb 1, 2005, 09:49 PM

BTW to you get Vital's comments on UNC?

alright, we've got a mini fued with DICKY V, he never calls games in champaign or hasn 't in recent year and in my opinion, the only reason he was at these two was because he wanted to be there if we lost ....

I'm fine with Dicky V propping up UNC, last week, we recoeved or 8 pt defecit with two threes from Ingram, while Dicky V was on a rant about UNC, I don't even think he knew we were mounting our comeback ... so yeah if we're gonna win while he calls them the best team, he should do it even more!

Mav451

Feb 1, 2005, 09:52 PM

Maryland got killed by Clemson. Maryland is so inconsistent, they beat Duke and then lose tonight to a bad team. They go right back out of the rankings after getting back in. Strange team.

Well there were a few things:
1) NCM sucked tonight. He regressed into the '03-'04 version of NCM again.
*banging head against the wall*

2) Trav and EI got into early foul trouble. Their defense stunk from then on, allowing Ford to get a ton of baskets inside. Trav and EI's offensive #s are back in line with the #'s BEFORE the duke game. -_-

3) We became TO machines.

stubeeef

Feb 1, 2005, 10:13 PM

Smoke and mirrors. Dicky V's comments don't really mean a hill of bean, all that matters is who has the most points at the buzzer. So, while I am glad he is excited about UNC, I am old enough to know it doesn't mean crap.

And what happened to MD tonight? Against Clemson!

UNC has the game against dook on the 9th and everything leading up to it is just dressing for that game!

It doesn't get any bigger than that these days on tobbaco road!

emw

Feb 1, 2005, 10:25 PM

Needless to say, I'm excited about the Illinois game - I didn't expect it to be so (relatively) easy. It hit me as they were talking during the game - Illinois will need to go 39-0 to go undefeated this season. That's a lot of games.

stubeeef

Feb 1, 2005, 10:33 PM

Unc will get a tourny bid and so will Illinois. The question is will they meet, I hope that the road to the championship is easier than meeting Illini, but at the same time, it would seem like a shallow championship if the 2 best teams (and we know that UNC is one of those two) are not in it. but would be happy if the Illini got knocked off by middle tenn st or something. :D

I know, keep dreamin!

If we get by dook on the 9th (I am not optamistic-dook is tough at home and md used up the dook losses at home quota) look out! ;)

edit: 3 miles from my house dook and wfu battle soon! that will be fun to watch, my problem is I want both to lose. :(

emw

Feb 1, 2005, 10:43 PM

Inspector Lee

Feb 1, 2005, 11:20 PM

alright, we've got a mini fued with DICKY V, he never calls games in champaign or hasn 't in recent year and in my opinion, the only reason he was at these two was because he wanted to be there if we lost ....

First off, outstanding victory for the Illini and the Champaign community. This team looks unstoppable and most importantly unfazed by hostile environs. I left the gym and you were up 17 so I didn't turn the radio on in the car. When I walked in the door to my pad, my girl had the radio on and State had cut it to 5. Being superstitious, I contemplated going back outside and standing there for 10-15 minutes with smoke going to keep the karma going. But alas, I stayed in and the rest is history.

re: Dickie V

This guy gets booed by the Izzone every time he comes to Breslin. And usually the only reason he comes is if an ACC team is in town. Maybe tonight he figured he was in a no-lose situation. What I don't understand is why a guy with midwest ties (Pistons, U of Detroit) doesn't bang the Big Ten drum. If he isn't moaning about Krzyzewski and UNC, then he's sucking the teat of Billy friggin' Donovan.

And don't even get me started on Billy Packer... I tell ya, the Big Ten gets no respect...

Side note: Dee Brown is a great player but he needs to cut out that technical foul BS. That door was slammed shut and he let a draft in.

Inspector Lee

Feb 1, 2005, 11:24 PM

There's a pretty good possibility UNC and Illinois will meet in St. Louis. Unfortunately for UNC, Illinois' road to the Championship, if all works out, is Indianapolis -> Chicago -> St. Louis. None more than 3 hours from "home."

Playing close to home is a perk for a #1 seed, especially if you wind up playing in basically your own backyard. When MSU won the title in 2000, the Regional Finals were held at The Palace in Auburn Hills (<1 hr away).

All the pieces are in place for a deep deep run. And they don't rely on one guy a la Cincinnati w/Kenyon Martin for a late season injury to really cost them.

stubeeef

Feb 1, 2005, 11:32 PM

And don't even get me started on Billy Packer... I tell ya, the Big Ten gets no respect...

I know about Vital. But the no respect thing also comes out of the Big Ten ACC challenge. Of course Illinil spanked WFU this year, but the Big Ten hasn't won one of them yet. No offense, the conference has great teams every year, but don't forget when you have to play dook, wake, unc, md, and many of the others in the ACC a few times a year, you better be good to have only 3-5 losses a year. (ya I know the changes in the ACC wont have everyone play each other as much-and I don't like it either)

Illinois is hot, hot, hot. I don't want to have to step in front of that train. But if they don't lose a game before the sweet 16, the pressure on them will be killer! The sweet 16 forward are all good. It will help that all of the IL games will be close to home, a very enviable position, but eveyone will have the IL number, and not just some of the patsies in the Big Ten (not Wis. not MSU).

No disrespect, but life is hard for everyone sweet 16 forward. And an injury on some of these teams, UNC included, can kill the deal.

gwuMACaddict

Feb 1, 2005, 11:39 PM

****ing terps! argh!

whatever... their defense was so lacadaisical... notice when they beat duke they played right up on the other guys. tonight, every clemson player had a 3 foot radius around them.

stubeeef

Feb 1, 2005, 11:44 PM

Inspector Lee

Feb 1, 2005, 11:47 PM

I know about Vital. But the no respect thing also comes out of the Big Ten ACC challenge.

I agree the Big Ten/ACC hasn't been much of a "challenge" but I think Dickie Vee's bias predates that - at least that is what I was referring to. The ACC is really stacked this year. And isn't BC joining the fray next year? But who knows about their returning personnel. Lot of ball to be played yet and seeding is of the utmost importance. Like I said in a previous post, if MSU stumbles this weekend at Iowa, the wheels could be off. If they can rebound, they should run the table leading up to the conference tournament. I've got tickets to Ohio State and Wisconsin in the next few weeks and I want those games to have meaning.

My mom played a little ball at UNC in the late sixties and my uncle went there so I watched them growing up. I remember the games pre-Dean Dome when they had the little wooden scoreboard in the corner that was manually changed. Also remember watching "the 4 corners" when UNC could literally hold the ball for 4-5 minutes. Also, my aunt went to Duke and I have a relative who is an emeritus in the medical school.

stubeeef

Feb 1, 2005, 11:57 PM

My mom, and uncle went to Dook (i know it's duke, but gotta take my cheap shots when I can), and my aunt UNC. But my mom became a UNC fan after I went there. So now my 72 yr old mom yells at the tv too! :p

The rest of the family was ivy league except one brother, Colorado.

anyway, I consider UNC and NC State the only real NC schools cause wake and duke are 40k/yr private schools filled with out of staters. Not being an elitist I like the UNC roots, It was the first public university in the US, over 200 yrs ago.

But I don't know if I want IL to lose in regular season, I think the pressure would be so huge, that it could get'm in the tourny.

I can see a IL, UNC, Wake, dook final four. Honorable mention to Kentucky and kansas.

Kentucky will be killer next year if they stay healthy and all come back.

Kwyjibo

Feb 1, 2005, 11:58 PM

These guys just keep putting them away, I don't know the strength of schedule they are playing, but still, they haven't lost and are #5 and waiting for someone to slip.

Illinois has beaten 6 ranked opponents, so far this season, and many of them were thorough domination. BC has played 2 and their preseason schedule was lighter than light. They have yet to play enough difficult games to earn my respect, same with Duke so far. BC has a tough home stretch, if they can beat 'Cuse, Pitt and Villanova, and finish undefeated then i'll be mighty impressed but they have to do more to earn some respect.

emw

Feb 2, 2005, 12:00 AM

I have some reading to do.......cause no one here is talking Boston College, also undefeated! Who, What, and Why?

These guys just keep putting them away, I don't know the strength of schedule they are playing, but still, they haven't lost and are #5 and waiting for someone to slip.

the thought just hit me, if dook loses to UNC or visaversa where do they go in the polls? I mean in #2 and #4 meet, and someone has to win and someone lose, so if dook loses, do they move to #5? or not, depending on BC of course.?I think BC has a tougher road ahead of them than Illinois - they still need to play Notre Dame on the road, as well as Pittsburgh and Syracuse. Not easy targets. Illinois has Ohio State, Iowa, Penn State and Michigan as road games, nothing too tough.

gwuMACaddict

Feb 2, 2005, 07:05 AM

i also think bc is overrated (at least thats how you guys are sounding...?)

i think when (if) they lose a game, they drop back around to the 10-20 range in the rankings.

Kmacripple

Feb 2, 2005, 11:06 AM

Syracuse is the team to watch out for in the Big East. I would not like to play them in the tournament with that tough zone of theirs. BC will lose a few games in the next couple of weeks.
As for NC, they are very talented, but I am not convinced that can go to the Final Four. McCants gets a bad attitude when things don't go well. Their defense is inconsistent. If a team keeps them from getting fast break points then they can be beat. Last year everyone thought they would go to the Final Four, and they didn't.

emw

Feb 2, 2005, 11:08 AM

i also think bc is overrated (at least thats how you guys are sounding...?)

i think when (if) they lose a game, they drop back around to the 10-20 range in the rankings.I think we can't tell if they are overrated or not - they haven't played enough tough games on the road, I don't think. Similar to UNC (who is 3-1 against top 25), they haven't played good teams on the road.

Illinois, who has won against ranked teams on the road, neutral courts, and at home, is a little easier to judge, but I don't think they've got as many tests in the next month. So it may be harder to judge Illinois against either UNC or BC if all 3 continue to win.

stubeeef

Feb 2, 2005, 12:42 PM

news scoop: my buddy called, has 4 tickets to the Wake Duke game tonight! the best part is it will be just us two! so there is room for popcorn and sodas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This will be fun you know! :)

the game is on at 9 eastern

stubeeef

Feb 2, 2005, 12:43 PM

I think we can't tell if they are overrated or not - they haven't played enough tough games on the road, I don't think. Similar to UNC (who is 3-1 against top 25), they haven't played good teams on the road.

Illinois, who has won against ranked teams on the road, neutral courts, and at home, is a little easier to judge, but I don't think they've got as many tests in the next month. So it may be harder to judge Illinois against either UNC or BC if all 3 continue to win.

UNC played wake on the road and lost! We have dook on the road on the 9th, watch out. We beat Kentucky but that was at home.

kuyu

Feb 2, 2005, 12:53 PM

And don't even get me started on Billy Packer... I tell ya, the Big Ten gets no respect...

The pregame student section chant at Kentucky games that he attends is "GO HOME PACKER".

Our leading scorer is a junior by the name of Kelenna Azibuke ('Cuh lyn a' 'As uh boo-key'). I can't remember the last time packer got it right. He'll say abizuke, kaleana, etc. To his credit, I think we have the most difficult roster to pronounce. Plus we play the deepest bench in b-ball, so there are lot of names to remember.

We made it to number 4 without a single statistical leader!!! That's UK; tough D, lots of passing, lots of wins. Tubby makes them scrimmage without dribbling the ball. It's considered a turnover. That's how they get so good at moving without the ball to create easy buckets.

gwuMACaddict

Feb 2, 2005, 12:59 PM

news scoop: my buddy called, has 4 tickets to the Wake Duke game tonight! the best part is it will be just us two! so there is room for popcorn and sodas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO JEALOUS! sell the other two andmake some serious $$

stubeeef

Feb 2, 2005, 01:12 PM

my buddy is worth double digit millions and won't need the change. But he is a huge Mac User! Has his own recording studio in the basement, owns his own plane................... Has a really great friend named Stu........ :p

gwuMACaddict

Feb 2, 2005, 01:56 PM

maybe your buddy wants to spot me some change then... sheesh :rolleyes: :p

kuyu

Feb 2, 2005, 01:57 PM

stubeeef

Feb 2, 2005, 02:28 PM

hey I'll let'm know there are dozens more waiting to suck up!

On subject, as i bask in the glow of a major battle (dook v wake) I have to pull for wake. then dook and wake will have lost 2 ACC games each and UNC jumps to #1 in the ACC (yellow jersey?).

emw

Feb 2, 2005, 02:55 PM

the game is on at 9 easternPost of picture of yourself and we'll look for you at the game. You'll be easier to spot, I assume, if UNC is winning ;)

stubeeef

Feb 2, 2005, 02:59 PM

Post of picture of yourself and we'll look for you at the game. You'll be easier to spot, I assume, if UNC is winning ;)

I am the fat guy in most of these pictures!

stubeeef's home page (http://homepage.mac.com/stubeeef/PhotoAlbum1.html)

Inspector Lee

Feb 2, 2005, 04:31 PM

Just read that Iowa's Pierre Pierce (a slick name) has been permanently dismissed from the team. He was their leading scorer at 17.8 PPG. Maybe the Spartans can get out of Iowa with a win this Saturday and roll the rest of the way (or at least until Wisconsin comes to town on 2/23). I've got tickets to that one and it should be a biggie.

emw

Feb 2, 2005, 04:54 PM

I am the fat guy in most of these pictures!

stubeeef's home page (http://homepage.mac.com/stubeeef/PhotoAlbum1.html)You've got a beautiful family - and the same kitchen table we do!

I'll print out the picture and carry it with me while I watch the game. I'm assuming your face will be painted UNC colors? I'll try to photoshop that in so I really know what to look for ;)

stubeeef

Feb 2, 2005, 07:33 PM

You've got a beautiful family - and the same kitchen table we do!

I'll print out the picture and carry it with me while I watch the game. I'm assuming your face will be painted UNC colors? I'll try to photoshop that in so I really know what to look for ;)

Thanks - about the family. I won't have any UNC on at this game, it is dook vs wake forest. I am rooting for Wake, if WFU beats dook, then UNC is #1 in the ACC.

I live down the street from WFU- approx 3 miles. My buddy went to Duke undergrad and Wake Law School, his parents are VIP's at Wake and he gets tickets for games like this. I can't resist because it is # 4 vs #6 in the nation. That is a good game to go to you know. The only way I will get to a UNC home game, is win the PICK 99 lotto, win mega bucks and buy a ticket.

Mav451

Feb 2, 2005, 08:23 PM

Thanks - about the family. I won't have any UNC on at this game, it is dook vs wake forest. I am rooting for Wake, if WFU beats dook, then UNC is #1 in the ACC.

I live down the street from WFU- approx 3 miles. My buddy went to Duke undergrad and Wake Law School, his parents are VIP's at Wake and he gets tickets for games like this. I can't resist because it is # 4 vs #6 in the nation. That is a good game to go to you know. The only way I will get to a UNC home game, is win the PICK 99 lotto, win mega bucks and buy a ticket.

This kinda hit me just today. Obviously, if you are a student--getting tickets to MD bball is nothing; and YES, some are complaining the online tix system is the cause for "fairweather" fans. The thing is, not everyone in my engineering classes are "kids". We have 30 and 40 year olds who have families to attend to. And he was like, "Man I wish I could get into the Duke game."

And it is times like these that I am shocked when I meet students who have no idea about Terp bball. These are the ONLY 4 years of life that you are able to obtain bball tickets as part of your tuition!

One of my friends has a motto: "Know your priorities." Let's just say he's missed a fair share of his 8am exams in his sophmore year b/c of his celebration involvement; both in football and basketball.

emw

Feb 2, 2005, 10:26 PM

stubeeef: Uh oh? (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1982741)

emw

Feb 2, 2005, 10:28 PM

I won't have any UNC on at this game, it is dook vs wake forest. Oops. Missed that part... Still, you'll have fun.

stubeeef

Feb 2, 2005, 11:57 PM

Well I am back and dook made a run at it, but couldn't do it!

So for today, UNC is alone atop the ACC.

And thanks for the crapy news about the team being sick! Luckily it is one week to dook.

gwuMACaddict

Feb 3, 2005, 09:17 AM

I am the fat guy in most of these pictures!

stubeeef's home page (http://homepage.mac.com/stubeeef/PhotoAlbum1.html)

echo earlier posts- beautiful fam, congrats!

both of last nights games were good- i enjoyed cinci/louisville almost as much as wake/duke

stubeeef

Feb 3, 2005, 09:27 AM

Thanks, I am a lucky guy!

Last nights game was good, I was surprised that Wake could never put them away, I was expecting them to! It seems they would get up by 5 or 7 and back comes dook. Arggg.

The best part was watching 2 teams I loathe go at it, and both are good, but knowing that when wake won, it would unclog the ACC alittle bit and put UNC on top of the ACC, that made me happy and bit obnoxious :D !

emw

Feb 3, 2005, 09:58 AM

Well I am back and dook made a run at it, but couldn't do it!

So for today, UNC is alone atop the ACC.

And thanks for the crapy news about the team being sick! Luckily it is one week to dook.I kept thinking WF would put them away, at one point they were up by, what, 12 or 14? Then Duke comes storming back to cut it to one. Still had a chance to tie it at the end...

And about the sickness thing - I'm sure they'll bounce back soon. NC State shouldn't be a huge test.

stubeeef

Feb 3, 2005, 04:33 PM

I kept thinking WF would put them away, at one point they were up by, what, 12 or 14? Then Duke comes storming back to cut it to one. Still had a chance to tie it at the end...

And about the sickness thing - I'm sure they'll bounce back soon. NC State shouldn't be a huge test.

I don't think that UNC will bill looking too far past NC State, that rivalry is still strong, the good news is that it is a home game for UNC. I just hope that they are ALL over this bug before the dook game! Can you imagine the Illini getting the flu in the sweet 16! :eek:

It will be a fun game to watch, if UNC wins that is.

emw

Feb 3, 2005, 04:36 PM

Can you imagine the Illini getting the flu in the sweet 1! :eek: If they feel at all like I do right now, we'd be screwed. I've got what the UNC players have, and let me tell you - it's not fun :(

stubeeef

Feb 3, 2005, 07:54 PM

up by 19 at the half....teehee tee hee. ;)

I can't see how we will lose to dook, of course making that statement will probably jinx the crap out of UNC, but unless we beat ourselves, I see some good ole revenge, served cold, coming Durham way!

That's what I said, UH HUH! :D

stubeeef

Feb 5, 2005, 12:52 PM

If they feel at all like I do right now, we'd be screwed. I've got what the UNC players have, and let me tell you - it's not fun :(

Just spent most of friday puking! Joy! I need to lose weight but this is not the way to do it. The worst part is that one other pilot was sick, so we could not fly a flight that really needed to go on Friday - NOT GOOD.

As I recover I'm watching Nebraska V Kansas, GO Nebraska! Looking forward to GT V dook, and wake at VA tech. I think dook and Wfu could easily both lose today. i have hopes anyway. Mich St V Iowa will be interesting after PP got the boot. Should be fun to watch too.

UNC has Fl St next, and lets face it, FS beat WFU - so UNC better keep sharp - then they play dook at dook.

Looking at Ill sked from here out looks like a skate, I'm not as familiar with the Big 10, but it looked easy enough for them.

stubeeef

Feb 7, 2005, 12:07 AM

This kinda hit me just today. Obviously, if you are a student--getting tickets to MD bball is nothing; and YES, some are complaining the online tix system is the cause for "fairweather" fans. The thing is, not everyone in my engineering classes are "kids". We have 30 and 40 year olds who have families to attend to. And he was like, "Man I wish I could get into the Duke game."

And it is times like these that I am shocked when I meet students who have no idea about Terp bball. These are the ONLY 4 years of life that you are able to obtain bball tickets as part of your tuition!

One of my friends has a motto: "Know your priorities." Let's just say he's missed a fair share of his 8am exams in his sophmore year b/c of his celebration involvement; both in football and basketball.

Just to show you how much muscle you need to get a few tix to the Brawl on the 9th.
(well attachments aren't working) so take my word for it, single ticket prices at $1350 and moving up.

Mav451

Feb 7, 2005, 12:35 AM

I don't know if I should laugh or cry. MD's season is essentially the "best" rollercoaster ride of my life.

Duke/GT, then Clemson/Miami.

Looking at VTech/Duke at home, I hope things improve. Strange things have been happening:

(Chris McCray developing aggressivenes for once, Bowers showing some game).

emw

Feb 7, 2005, 10:37 AM

Just spent most of friday puking! Joy! I need to lose weight but this is not the way to do it.

UNC has Fl St next, and lets face it, FS beat WFU - so UNC better keep sharp - then they play dook at dook.

Looking at Ill sked from here out looks like a skate, I'm not as familiar with the Big 10, but it looked easy enough for them.Hope you're feeling better. I didn't have to deal with that, but with my complete lack of appetite I dropped 5 pounds last week. Yikes.

Good to see UNC had no problems with FSU. Not even close. Illinois struggled with Indiana, but they tend to play down to the competition. They went up 20-3, then just got too loose, I think. Next is Michigan, which suddenly doesn't look so daunting... next big test will be Wisconsin.

stubeeef

Feb 7, 2005, 10:53 AM

Well UNC almost blew it, they were up by 18 then let back with 1. got tired of it and went on a 25-6 run. Last year they were up 24 pts and FSU came back and won in OT. Yes I started to worry.

The 9th is THE game for me this week! Heels have to grow up and play their game, don't get rattled, and don't lose it. If they can't win it, make dook win it. It wouldn't hurt if coach K would plant a big kiss on JJ, pass the germs you know.

gwuMACaddict

Feb 7, 2005, 01:12 PM

Looking at VTech/Duke at home, I hope things improve. Strange things have been happening:

(Chris McCray developing aggressivenes for once, Bowers showing some game).

awww- where's the love for Bowers!? he's been trying!! :D

emw

Feb 8, 2005, 10:09 PM

Oh, man. That was pitiful. Illinois has really been playing poorly the past two games against truly inferior opponents. I hope they break out of this soon - Wisconsin is coming up in only a couple of days.

Of course, they're still unbeaten - and the only one left.

stubeeef

Feb 8, 2005, 10:16 PM

Come from behind late in the game! Well, like I always say, great teams find a way to win. But could this expose a chink in the armour?

Heels prepare for war, wed in Durham! I am saying prayers, afterall God is a Tarheel, that's why the sky is Carolina Blue! ;)

emw

Feb 8, 2005, 10:25 PM

Come from behind late in the game! Well, like I always say, great teams find a way to win. But could this expose a chink in the armour?I don't know. On one hand it's frustrating how poorly they've played against poor teams recently - but then again, even when the shots aren't falling, they can lean on defense to beat teams. Only score 57 points? No sweat, hold the opponent to 51. Still, it's hard to see how this is the same team that blew MSU out of the Breslin Center last week.

Heels prepare for war, wed in Durham! I am saying prayers, afterall God is a Tarheel, that's why the sky is Carolina Blue! ;)Good luck - you know Duke is beatable at home. Just don't play like Georgia Tech...

Inspector Lee

Feb 8, 2005, 10:40 PM

I don't know. On one hand it's frustrating how poorly they've played against poor teams recently - but then again, even when the shots aren't falling, they can lean on defense to beat teams. Only score 57 points? No sweat, hold the opponent to 51. Still, it's hard to see how this is the same team that blew MSU out of the Breslin Center last week.

Good teams will win ugly. Listened to part of the game when I left the gym tonight. Sounded like Michigan was really trying to slow things down. IL went something like 11 minutes without a FG. IL can beat you with the half-court set but I feel like they really love to run. Also, it is hard to get up for games against lower echelon teams. I was joking with a co-worker today that Illinois might win by 50. Don't know what the line was though but it had to be >15.

emw

Feb 8, 2005, 10:43 PM

Good teams will win ugly. Listened to part of the game when I left the gym tonight. Sounded like Michigan was really trying to slow things down. IL went something like 11 minutes without a FG. IL can beat you with the half-court set but I feel like they really love to run. Also, it is hard to get up for games against lower echelon teams. I was joking with a co-worker today that Illinois might win by 50. Don't know what the line was though but it had to be >15.I missed the game (since I'm traveling, I was out to dinner with a vendor), so it's harder to really judge. But 11 minutes without a field goal? Ouch.

I think the line was 15.

jsw

Feb 8, 2005, 11:02 PM

....after all God is a Tarheel, that's why the sky is Carolina Blue! ;)
Well, actually, the sun is Illini orange, and the sky is Illini blue. Not sure where you get "Carolina Blue"....

jsw

Feb 8, 2005, 11:03 PM

...11 minutes without a field goal...
...and they still won.

:D

stubeeef

Feb 8, 2005, 11:24 PM

Well, actually, the sun is Illini orange, and the sky is Illini blue. Not sure where you get "Carolina Blue"....

good chuckle, but you are obviously color blind! :p

Mav451

Feb 9, 2005, 12:08 AM

Terps bounce back! :)

JGil has 19-10 (that's 10 assists). He's also 2nd in the conference with assist/TO ratio. Tonight he was a little bit over 3 (10/3).

And Grinnon played some key minutes in the 1st half...Trav is terrible, but Gist/Bowers, thankfully are providing a decent inside presence. Nik is scoring again...and MJ is still getting sh*t minutes -_-.

Even though he got 13pts in 11minutes. People are considering showing "Free Mike Jones" signs during the Duke game. Sigh.

stubeeef

Feb 9, 2005, 08:04 PM

CAN YOU FEEL IT? IT IS AS THICK AS A RUG HERE, THE GAME IS ABOUT TO BEGIN. REVENGE SWEET REVENGE TO THE RECENT LOSSES WE HAVE SUFFERED!!!!!!

No kidding, tonight to me, is bigger than the Superbowl, hands down!

May the best team from Chapel Hill win! ;)

GO HEELS!

stubeeef

Feb 9, 2005, 11:14 PM

CRAP!

jsw

Feb 9, 2005, 11:18 PM

CRAP!
Sorry. I was worried I'd feel that way for much of the Illinois-Michigan game.

clayj

Feb 9, 2005, 11:19 PM

CRAP!Ditto. One freakin' point... argh. Dookies suck.

stubeeef

Feb 9, 2005, 11:20 PM

They need to go shoot free throws non-stop for 48hours!!!!!!!!

It seems that they could not go and down the court fast enough and turn the ball over. And then they didn't even take the last shot, and he had one.

CRAP!CRAP!CRAP!

Mav451

Feb 9, 2005, 11:26 PM

I'm wondering if this is a good thing or a bad thing with Duke coming Saturday.

emw

Feb 9, 2005, 11:45 PM

stubeeef

Feb 10, 2005, 12:10 AM

I feel dejected, unworthy, mad, angry, sad, but most of all I feel like I have been violated. Yes violated. I think I'll take a shower. I feel like saying crap again really loud too.

CRAP!

OK I'll stop saying that now.

Thanks for the late night support group.

Hi, my name is Stu, I hate dook.

Goodnight.

stubeeef

Feb 10, 2005, 07:19 PM

Oh lord please let NC State beat Wake Forest this evening. Please oh Please oh Please.

stubeeef

Feb 12, 2005, 08:50 AM

Well I don't think UNC plays today, but am hopeful that Florida St and Maryland can give UNC a boost by winning against WFU and Dook.

gwuMACaddict

Feb 12, 2005, 09:43 AM

I'm wondering if this is a good thing or a bad thing with Duke coming Saturday.

it's GREAT! GO TERPS!

oh... and i hate duke... see link

yup... hate duke (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=bilas_jay&id=1989324)

Mav451

Feb 12, 2005, 11:12 AM

Maryland / Duke in less than 10 hours.

I'll be in Comcast around 6:40pm :)

*ugh, more of the double standard against MD of "vulgar chants". They seem to forget the "crackbaby" chants from UVA, and all the **** that the Cameron Crazies do to MD ("bags of flour for DJ", for example).*

Kwyjibo

Feb 12, 2005, 03:06 PM

25-0 illiNO1s basketball

jsw

Feb 12, 2005, 03:10 PM

25-0 illiNO1s basketball
Yeah, baby! Go Illini!

It is so nice to be able to wear my 20-year-old Illinois sweatshirt and hat and have people actually have some clue about who they are (even here in Boston).

emw

Feb 12, 2005, 03:40 PM

25-0 illiNO1s basketballIt was nice to see them play fairly well again - especially in the 2nd half. I was starting to get a little worried.

emw

Feb 12, 2005, 03:42 PM

Well I don't think UNC plays today, but am hopeful that Florida St and Maryland can give UNC a boost by winning against WFU and Dook.Well, so much for WF losing to FSU... Not even close.

Kwyjibo

Feb 12, 2005, 04:14 PM

Yeah, baby! Go Illini!

It is so nice to be able to wear my 20-year-old Illinois sweatshirt and hat and have people actually have some clue about who they are (even here in Boston).

thats awesome, i'm sure its mostly due to football.

Mav451

Feb 12, 2005, 04:27 PM

Hehe, I'm heading out now.
My entry time is 6:40pm, but i'm probably damn late as it is.

If you want to know what I look like, you can check the MR pics thread, but I'll be in Comcast :) Hopefully I can get good seats this time.

stubeeef

Feb 12, 2005, 06:14 PM

Well I will miss the dook Md matchup, going out for a valentines dinner tonight. But I will be hopeing that MD opens up a can of whop*ss on dook to night. :p

stubeeef

Feb 12, 2005, 11:32 PM

YEA MARYLAND! BEAT DOOK!

Wow, good job, came home and turned on the set and saw the ot thing! Left a restuarant/bar watching the game (everyone was rooting for maryland, remember I live in Winston Salem, 2 miles from WFU), was very happy to see MD up in ot. But was very happy to see MD sweep dook! Gives me hope so thanks. Puts WFU in 1st, UNC 2nd, and dook 3rd in ACC, and gives the ncaa tourny nod to md!

Mav451

Feb 13, 2005, 04:12 AM

A link to a MD/Duke picture thread.

http://mb5.scout.com/fmaryland43696frm6.showMessage?topicID=36772.topic

Mostly ESPN College Gameday photos, but I'm presuming some game pics will be posted later. Anyway, its been a long, exhausting night. Good night guys.

stubeeef

Feb 13, 2005, 08:20 AM

Mav451, you were up late, spreading the happiness I bet!?

Congrats, a job well done.

Mav451

Feb 13, 2005, 03:06 PM

Mav451, you were up late, spreading the happiness I bet!?

Congrats, a job well done.

Heh, if you mean being on Route 1, nope. I swear, I don't know how else to say it, but I'm almost getting the feeling that I'm "too old for this sh*t". I'm only a junior, but it feels so tried now.

My friends and I just went to get some food, cuz we were in line since 4:30 in the afternoon.

emw

Feb 13, 2005, 03:55 PM

Hey, stu, how about them 'Heels? Nice job knocking off UConn today.

stubeeef

Feb 13, 2005, 04:08 PM

emw

Feb 14, 2005, 12:00 PM

Well, how did they play? I missed the game cause I had to drag 5 of us to PT Barnum today. $166 for parking, tickets for 5, toys, and candy. Welcome to "a sucker is born everyday!".

Seriously didn't get any of the game, so willing to hear/read the reviews. :(I didn't get to watch it either, unfortunately. I was surprised at the relatively low score (for UNC), but they came back from being down on the road, which has to be a big confidence booster for them - UConn, though inconsistent this year, is still a tough team.

gwuMACaddict

Feb 14, 2005, 12:01 PM

it was a great weekend for me- went to the GW/Richmond game, watched my colonials beat up on Richmond the entire time.

went home, watched my terps sweep duke for the first time since 95.

total bliss :D

stubeeef

Feb 14, 2005, 09:55 PM

Well, I need any win we can get. UConn was missing a key player if I remember right.
Maryland pulled off a great win, but the riot afterward was not very smart.

Illini still #1 (is that boring or scarey?)
Kansas and Kentucky take over the spotlight from UNC WFU and Duke. UNC better win the rest of their games, the toughest will be maryland and dook, if they even hope for a top seed.
UNC at Virginia, should be a romp, but you don't know till the end, that's why they play'em.

emw

Feb 14, 2005, 10:01 PM

Illini still #1 (is that boring or scarey?)I'd be happy if they stay #1 for the rest of the year, even if it is boring :D

Mav451

Feb 15, 2005, 12:50 AM

...
Maryland pulled off a great win, but the riot afterward was not very smart...

I'm getting sick and tired of hearing this bullsh*t.

http://mb5.scout.com/fmaryland43696frm6.showMessage?topicID=37144.topic

It has been confirmed that media used old footage from 2001-2002 b/c it was, according to a News Channel 7 reporter:

"[We used video from 2 years ago] becuase it was pretty calm the other night".

Mav451

Feb 15, 2005, 03:29 AM

An update on the situation of a student who got absued by the "police" force:
http://www.diamondbackonline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/02/14/4210265b4663b

Lippenholz said police shot him in the face with a pepper pellet. As a Diamondback reporter and columnist and a throng of concerned students watched the sophomore letters and sciences major double over, it was perfectly clear that crowd control had deteriorated into police-induced chaos.

http://mb5.scout.com/fmaryland43696frm6.showMessage?topicID=37226.topic

This is for those who choose to stereotype, judge, and otherwise conjure up misconceptions about a situation that they CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

stubeeef

Feb 15, 2005, 06:55 AM

Well count me a victim too! As you can see in my signature, the press sux.

Sorry to have falsely believed that there was a riot, instead of police party.

#2KANSAS LOSES TO LUBBOCK? WOW!

EDIT: Just went here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=96971&page=3&pp=25) to remember who I lamely picked late in the season. They seem to be holding up ok, Illini, Kansas, UNC, WFU

gwuMACaddict

Feb 15, 2005, 08:51 AM

#2KANSAS LOSES TO LUBBOCK? WOW!

you can't ever count a bod knight team out... love that man :D

stubeeef

Feb 15, 2005, 09:08 AM

you can't ever count a bod knight team out... love that man :D

i love seeing Kansas eat some, but I can't stand Bobby K!

emw

Feb 15, 2005, 12:22 PM

i love seeing Kansas eat some, but I can't stand Bobby K!I watched the last few minutes of regulation, and the 2 overtimes, just because I wanted to see Kansas lose (even though I've picked them for St. Louis). I kept thinking they were going to dodge the bullet, but eventually Texas Tech prevailed, despite 2nd half troubles at the line.

Mav451

Feb 15, 2005, 12:53 PM

I can't stand Kansas. Even after Roy Williams left, from the people I met in high school that were Kansas fans were real jerks. And I can still remember the sad look on their face when Wilcox stuffed Gooden over and over in that Final Four game.

Bob Knight is like Gary Williams^infinity power. People say that Gary is intense/too intense, but Knight took it to another level and I respect that.

In fact, if you looked at him during the game, he looked pretty calm, so i wonder what is happening to his chair-throwing reputation? Hrmm...

Inspector Lee

Feb 15, 2005, 11:03 PM

I can't stand Kansas.

Is it just me or do they always draw Kemper Arena no matter if they are a #1,2,3,4 seed?

Back in '86, an unbelievably gutty Scott Skiles-led MSU team had Kansas on the ropes in the Sweet Sixteen in Kemper Arena and the clock didn't run for between 4 and 8 seconds in the last 2 minutes allowing Kansas to come back. Just the thought of Billy Packer moaning about the Jayhawks' comeback (if he in fact called the game) has me wanting to go outside an uproot a tree right now.

stubeeef

Feb 15, 2005, 11:20 PM

WOW, Kansas and now Kentucky lose in 24 hours! they weren't top 5 for much more than 24 hours.
S Carolina coach was the ole WFU coach.

MacConvert2008

Feb 15, 2005, 11:59 PM

stubeeef

Feb 16, 2005, 08:14 AM

Yeah we have some incredibly disappointing 'ball... we lost at home vs UNC 110-76 (ouch!) and we travel there tomorrow night. Although before last game we had a five-game winning streak against UNC at home... yeah we are incredibly inconsistent, which doesn't really work in the ACC lol... what a dominant conference! Duke, UNC, Wake Forest, we're screwed. Any thoughts?

It is always darkest before the dawn, UNC has had some rough times in the recent past, but hey WE'RE BACK! Virginia has a good enough reputation, just need to recruit better.
ACC is tough as nails this year, UNC, Dook, Wake, GT, MD, and yes Miami and FSU too! And BC next year, man it will be tough to ever go undeafted in the ACC ever again. If you lose only 2 games a year, you should win the conference!
GO Heels, beat Virginia!

MacConvert2008

Feb 16, 2005, 02:47 PM

well at least we dominated UNC in football... although we lost the MPC computers bowl and basically every important game we had ... ::cough:: well the skiing in idaho was great at least.

kuyu

Feb 16, 2005, 05:49 PM

WOW, Kansas and now Kentucky lose in 24 hours! they weren't top 5 for much more than 24 hours.
S Carolina coach was the ole WFU coach.

Thank God we lost to SC. They played better than us and deserved the win. This loss couldn't have come at a more perfect time. Our players started listening to the polls and thought they could just phone in the win. Maybe this is the spark that will light the rockets, and hopefully propel us to the championship.

Knowing Tubby, I'd say 6AM practices are about to start.

To give our team some credit, we play 4 freshman heavily (start 2) and they had their first tests this week. Hard to do school and B-ball at first. Live and learn...

Mav451

Feb 16, 2005, 09:48 PM

Wow, I guess we never get it against NC State.

I honestly can't say my expectations are that high rite now, and for reverse psychology sake (horrifying), NC State may sweep us this season.

*shaking head*.

and yes, I know my sig carries a sense of irony with it now. A > B, and B > C, does NOT guarantee A > C.

MacConvert2008

Feb 16, 2005, 09:51 PM

I'm sick.... so, so sick....

stubeeef

Feb 16, 2005, 11:02 PM

and yes, I know my sig carries a sense of irony with it now. A > B, and B > C, does NOT guarantee A > C.

You guys are consistantly inconsistant! But what can I say, we can't beat dook, you did, we can't beat wake either! So you wont hear much from me about it. I am probably as frustrated with UNC as you are with MD.

clayj

Feb 16, 2005, 11:05 PM

You guys are consistantly inconsistant! But what can I say, we can't beat dook, you did, we can't beat wake either! So you wont hear much from me about it. I am probably as frustrated with UNC as you are with MD.The only constant in ACC men's hoops is that pretty much any team can beat pretty much any other team... the one exception being that Clemson sucks against UNC. :)

Go Heels!

stubeeef

Feb 17, 2005, 11:08 PM

The only constant in ACC men's hoops is that pretty much any team can beat pretty much any other team... the one exception being that Clemson sucks against UNC. :)

Go Heels!

And it happens again! My question is - if everyone else can beat dook, how come UNC can't!

ps - Virginia Tech beats dook at VT

emw

Feb 17, 2005, 11:11 PM

And it happens again! My question is - if everyone else can beat dook, how come UNC can't!

ps - Virginia Tech beats dook at VTImpressive. That took about 3 minutes for you to post :D

As for UNC - they just need to play Duke at home, like VT did.

clayj

Feb 17, 2005, 11:12 PM

And it happens again! My question is - if everyone else can beat dook, how come UNC can't!

ps - Virginia Tech beats dook at VTWell, the Heels have a realistic chance to move up from #4 to #2 in the next polls, since Kansas and Kentucky have both suffered losses this week. Duke, OTOH, should slip even further. Carolina gets to play against Clemson this weekend... hopefully we'll blow out the Tigers.

stubeeef

Feb 17, 2005, 11:17 PM

I just want UNC to get the East #1 seed! so if #2 at the end of the year does that, then bring it on.

gwuMACaddict

Feb 17, 2005, 11:26 PM

poor dook... hehe

i was excited by the espn poll today that showed 87% of people beleived that GW belonged in the tourney

now if maryland would stop losing stupid games...

emw

Feb 19, 2005, 02:45 PM

I just want UNC to get the East #1 seed! so if #2 at the end of the year does that, then bring it on.Well, it won't help them if they continue to struggle against teams like Clemson. Sheesh, they've barely kept the lead to 35. ;) :D

BTW - Illinois rolls on to 27-0, although once again Iowa gave them fits. Luckily a couple of (hopefully) easier home games with Northwestern and Purdue before hitting the road against an improved Ohio State.

stubeeef

Feb 19, 2005, 03:07 PM

Clemson is now 0 -51 at Chapel Hill. Now that is consistant! :D And my favorite kind. Just got to a hotel in San Antonio, cut on the tube and started watching the Illini and Iowa, I was wondering if this would be the game, but of course, in traditional fashion (this year anyway) they stepped on the gas and were gone! Looking forward to the Syr and BC game, should be great!

Mav451

Feb 19, 2005, 04:42 PM

poor dook... hehe

i was excited by the espn poll today that showed 87% of people beleived that GW belonged in the tourney

now if maryland would stop losing stupid games...

Yeah, our emotional swings are crazy this year. I mean, who else has beaten Duke at Cameron this year? But, who else has lost at Clemson? Both are "firsts" this year...

Kind of a reflection of JGil's emotional dependence. Hopefully we are going to toughen up by the time for the Big Dance.