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Steve Jobs Taking New Medical Leave of Absence
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Agreed what Gates did with MS was extraordinary. I cant help but wonder if we will be saying that about Zuckerberg, Schmidt and Brin someday as well.
EDIT: Lets just hope Cook is not the next Ballmer
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The stock market is closed today for Martin Luther day.
Perhaps you are looking at yesterday's close.
7% drop AAPL in Germany today.
Really? So if there's a building, it obviously has a builder, correct? Why wouldn't creation have a creator? Look around you.
One word: Dinosaurs
A few thoughts...
Apple clearly released this info today, a non-trading day, to let the news churn for a day without immediate impact.
We'll no doubt see a hit tomorrow, but I expect the other reason for this timing is because they're about to announce mind-boggling numbers after closing.
A year ago, I would have had more concern about less Steve involvement than I do today. The big products have all been announced, and what remains over the next several years is execution, which Apple has in spades.
I think the only thing left that needs Steve's powers is negotiations with content providers, and again, Apple's power here lies in its momentum at least as much as it does in Jobs himself.
If you hold AAPL, selling tomorrow would be a classic blunder, even with the inevitable short term hit. You wont' beat the automated trading and you're guaranteed to be just locking in your losses.
Apple clearly released this info today, a non-trading day, to let the news churn for a day without immediate impact.
We'll no doubt see a hit tomorrow, but I expect the other reason for this timing is because they're about to announce mind-boggling numbers after closing.
A year ago, I would have had more concern about less Steve involvement than I do today. The big products have all been announced, and what remains over the next several years is execution, which Apple has in spades.
I think the only thing left that needs Steve's powers is negotiations with content providers, and again, Apple's power here lies in its momentum at least as much as it does in Jobs himself.
If you hold AAPL, selling tomorrow would be a classic blunder, even with the inevitable short term hit. You wont' beat the automated trading and you're guaranteed to be just locking in your losses.
Get well, Steve!
But I believe they were speaking in terms of creativity. No.
As a CEO? Sure. As a businessman? Absolutely.
But I believe they were speaking in terms of creativity. No.
Nah. Some doctors say "rest" because they think that's what the patient and family wants to hear; it's comforting. But unless you're at risk for popping stitches or having a massive coronary, do what keeps you engaged with your life and moving around. Lying around at home doesn't promote healing, and it's not good to focus on possible impending doom. So Jobs has done so far what he wanted to do and we're all better off for it. INAD, but any toll taken has been the disease, not the work.
Buy Buy Buy
Yes the shares will plummet, if you are in the market, buy on the dip.
I have confidence in Mr. Cook. As long as AAPL concentrates on quality, we will be ok.
Best wishes to SJ!
The press release gives little sign of optimism. The shares will plummet I guess. Get well soon Steve
Yes the shares will plummet, if you are in the market, buy on the dip.
I have confidence in Mr. Cook. As long as AAPL concentrates on quality, we will be ok.
Best wishes to SJ!
I sure hope Jobs will recover, but this does not sound good at all. I don't think we'll see him return to Apple.
I wish people would stop acting like Steve Jobs is the only person out there that can have creative vision and be innovative. Or that he is the only person in Apple that has ideas (or rather that he is the only reason Apple does well). Or even more drastic, that this is the end of any good computers ever!
Sure, the stock is going to take a hit cause of this attitude, people are scared of change. But I'm willing to see what Apple does without him before I say they are ruined without him. Personally, I liked Apple computers when he wasn't CEO as much as when he was. He's not the only reason why Apple makes great computer products, there are several people behind that computer/iphone/ipod.
What he brought was good marketing and direction. But that's not to say that there is no one else that can move Apple (or another computer company) in new and innovative ways. If nothing else, if Apple does lose vision and loses its way and Microsoft is still flailing, this leaves an opening for some one new and innovative to show people something new and exciting. They'll just have to start like Apple was/is, the underdog amongst other companies that have larger support.
Heh, shoot, if stock prices got cheap enough from all the FUD I think I'd be willing to buy a little just as a gamble cause I don't think this is the death knell of Apple.
Sure, the stock is going to take a hit cause of this attitude, people are scared of change. But I'm willing to see what Apple does without him before I say they are ruined without him. Personally, I liked Apple computers when he wasn't CEO as much as when he was. He's not the only reason why Apple makes great computer products, there are several people behind that computer/iphone/ipod.
What he brought was good marketing and direction. But that's not to say that there is no one else that can move Apple (or another computer company) in new and innovative ways. If nothing else, if Apple does lose vision and loses its way and Microsoft is still flailing, this leaves an opening for some one new and innovative to show people something new and exciting. They'll just have to start like Apple was/is, the underdog amongst other companies that have larger support.
Heh, shoot, if stock prices got cheap enough from all the FUD I think I'd be willing to buy a little just as a gamble cause I don't think this is the death knell of Apple.
Wow, negative much? Honestly, do people need to analyze everything he says. Remember man, he's human just as you are. Everybody has said something that didn't appear to be "proper", no need to take it out of context.
Many people are speculating on what is wrong with Mr. Jobs. That is irresponsible. Medical conditions are complex. He could have very bad problems, he could be having a hard time keeping his weight and just need a bit less stress for a bit. There is a very real chance that he just needs a change in lifestyle.
Lets just hope he did not slip in the shower, hit his head and start using Windows computers.
Yes and no. People need to stay engaged, however, stress is a bad thing. It decreases immune function. Working 40 hours a week give or take is good. Working 80 hours a week with constant deadlines and crisis after crisis, not so much.
Lets just hope he did not slip in the shower, hit his head and start using Windows computers.
Yes and no. People need to stay engaged, however, stress is a bad thing. It decreases immune function. Working 40 hours a week give or take is good. Working 80 hours a week with constant deadlines and crisis after crisis, not so much.
Steve Jobs should really be given the privacy he needs to get over whatever it is that's wrong. Personally speaking, if I was as rich as him and had a liver transplant and cancer I would have given up work loooooooooooooooong ago! Sure, he has passion for Apple etc, but your health is more important than anything! Tim Cook should be CEO permanently and just leave Jobs his security pass to come and visit now and again, on the days he isn't relaxing at home reading, painting or just chilling with his family. Apple will still go from strength to strength as a brand and create amazing products.
I think the one thing Mr. Jobs does that no other CEO can pull off, he can do the things no one else likes. If any other CEO were at the head of Apple, they would have caved in and the iPhone would be more open. This would be a mistake. It takes someone with the respect of the industry to do the right thing when everyone else wants you to make a drastic mistake.
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Wow. I can't believe Apples stock is the highest it's ever been and approaching the most valuable company in history. I really hope investors see that the new products this year should develop Apple's market presence even more.
Wow. I can't believe Apples stock is the highest it's ever been and approaching the most valuable company in history. I really hope investors see that the new products this year should develop Apple's market presence even more.
"PRAISE THE LORD FOR THE STEVE JOBS" EEEK (sorry, but you sound like you are holding a vigil or standing a pulpit.)
Lets keep politics out of this... ;-)
If it is true that Steve has one or more carcinoids, it is possible that this is a relapse and with treatment he could be back. If this is rejection of the liver transplant then he has a tough road ahead but could survive it.
One thing is for sure is that he will die at some point. We all share that honor. If Steve is the visionary that we all seem to think that he is he is well aware of that fact and has been allowing others to chip in and direct Apple products and Apple's future to a point. I would think that the very last thing that any CEO would want to do is create a 'cult of personality' around their running the company that makes them irreplaceable. Yes, I am aware of the 'cult of Steve' that runs under and through a lot of the lore of Apple. I am also aware that the stock will take a beating after something more permanent happens (retirement, disablement, death) but that's life in Wall Street. Apple will survive. Heck, they are sitting on so much liquid cash that they could literally produce a few bottom sucking products and still survive.
Still, it is rather humbling... And perhaps a moment to think of buying Apple stock, or to short it in the next six months or so...