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Apple Targets Samsung With New Lawsuit Over 'Galaxy' Line
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The LG prada fanboys need to back up their assertions with something.
We know how long Apple takes to develop products, a very long time.
We know how much their competition spends doing such things and how they like to rush things to market.
It is much more likely that the LG prada started development way after the original iPhone started being developed. Given the two products they produced, it is pretty clear the LG Prada was created in only a small fraction of the time it took to create the iPhone. So it is likely the iPhone was in development for years before the Prada was even a concept.
A spec sheet doesn't make a brand/phone. Premium is something that you earn.
Hoping on someone else's brand coattails to benefit yourself and hurt the other brand is what the issue is here.
Samsung phones, i'm sorry look and feel cheap. I don't care what the spec sheet says and most other people don't care either. It's a race to the bottom just like plastic laptops with these plastic phones.
the iphone doesn't want to be lumped into that category. That is the issue.
Because the technology and market wasnt ready, duh.
Toyota was the first automaker with a luxury SUV. now all manufactuers have one... they copied toyota!!!
Your assumption is that there are so many ways to make something that they are endless. Android functionality is very close to iOS. So is everything else since its been made for the same human hands.
Samsung phone does not have to directly copy something from Apple to come out looking like one. Apple Lawyers are grasping straws but that what good business executive do, it does not matter if its right or wrong they just do, just like any person with wealth will sue over almost anything, they really have very little to loose when your that wealthy a few million with a possible payoff of billions is worth it.
Most people hear if not all of us are to poor to see that its just business as its done in the civilized world. Win is the only thing that matters even if Apple looses they will loose little when it comes down to it, but they could win big and not have to rush out anything special for some years.
Realty:
A total of 482,871 patent applications were filed with the USPTO in the year 2009
"U.S. Patent Statistics Chart - Calendar Years 1963 - 2009,"
16 million civil cases were filed in state courts in 2002, according to the State Court Guide to Statistical Reporting
Sorry could not find newer information but if it was that then imagine now.
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Do you even understand what you are trying to say? Who cares when iPhone development started? What matters is patent filing date. Quote: "One day before Apple's acting CEO told Wall Street analysts that his company would not stand for having its intellectual property "ripped off" -- a remark clearly aimed at certain iPhone-like features of the Palm Pre -- the U.S. Patent Office awarded Apple Patent No. No. 7479949.
This 358-page document, originally filed on Sept. 5, 2007, is the mother of all iPhone patents. "
So, the date is Sept. 5, 2007. LG Prada was released on March 22, 2007 which makes Apple patent irrelevant (prior art).
Yes apple has the right to defend their UI, although I should point out that a patent is supposed to protect a process, something like the UI should be copyrighted.
As for the INVENTED the concept part? They didn't invent the concept, they stuck the figurative apple sticker on it and had a major event and all the fanboi's jumped on.
As for the Buying Samsung? Are you serious? Apple's annual revenue is approximately $33-34billion. Samsungs is $170billion. I'd like to see them try.
Can I create an Angry Birds clone and call it Pissy Pigeons?
We shoot them out of a cannon and smash them into cows.
I mean it's so obvious people will love a game based on geometry where we shoot birds at other animals. How else would you build a game based on geometry? This seems so obvious and is the only way to really do it so Angry Birds would have no case against me.
Slice the String?
Fruit Samuari?
There are hundreds of ways to build a phone but it seems there is really only one way people would find it the most useful.
At least the Windows 7 phones don't copy the iphone. There is a different way to build a phone that isn't like the iphone. How well is it selling. Not too well.
We shoot them out of a cannon and smash them into cows.
I mean it's so obvious people will love a game based on geometry where we shoot birds at other animals. How else would you build a game based on geometry? This seems so obvious and is the only way to really do it so Angry Birds would have no case against me.
Slice the String?
Fruit Samuari?
There are hundreds of ways to build a phone but it seems there is really only one way people would find it the most useful.
At least the Windows 7 phones don't copy the iphone. There is a different way to build a phone that isn't like the iphone. How well is it selling. Not too well.
I've always found the that the sound quality from my iPod was perfectly fine, but then again, I am not an audiophile by any stretch. What Apple did here was find a sweet-spot. A small device, a good interface for browsing a lot of music quickly, it holds a lot of songs, good battery life, fairly affordable. THAT is what matters to most people. The audio quality took a hit by having a lower bit rate in order to fit more songs, but that was less important to the masses than what it had going for it.
The iPad is the same thing. It's not about who has the fastest processor or the most ram or whether it will run full-blown desktop applications. Again, it's about the sweet-spot. Portable, light, good battery life, affordable, ideal for web surfing, e-mail, games, music, pictures, movies, and some "real work". It was never designed to run the Adobe Creative Suite or Microsoft Office or CAD programs. It was never designed to be the be-all, end-all device that does everything. Based on how it's selling, my guess is Apple nailed the sweet-spot once again.
Oh and if sound quality was what really matters, where are all of the iPod killers? Where are the devices that you mentioned? Sound quality matters, yes, but for the majority, it's the full-package, not just the sq.
Your assumption is that there are so many ways to make something that they are endless. Android functionality is very close to iOS. So is everything else since its been made for the same human hands.
Samsung phone does not have to directly copy something from Apple to come out looking like one. Apple Lawyers are grasping straws but that what good business executive do, it does not matter if its right or wrong they just do, just like any person with wealth will sue over almost anything, they really have very little to loose when your that wealthy a few million with a possible payoff of billions is worth it.
Most people hear if not all of us are to poor to see that its just business as its done in the civilized world. Win is the only thing that matters even if Apple looses they will loose little when it comes down to it, but they could win big and not have to rush out anything special for some years.
Realty:
A total of 482,871 patent applications were filed with the USPTO in the year 2009
"U.S. Patent Statistics Chart - Calendar Years 1963 - 2009,"
16 million civil cases were filed in state courts in 2002, according to the State Court Guide to Statistical Reporting
Sorry could not find newer information but if it was that then imagine now.
Windows 7 phones with their live tiles look nothing like an iphone. You'd never mistake it for one. There are many ways to build a phone. One of them is to copy the most popular phone.
This is great news as then maybe we could get some competition and force people to be inventive rather than copycats acting like they're somehow aiding innovation.
Right now the argument that competition will help apple make better products is moot, because no one is actually doing anything different.
Oh, and if you are under the delusion that what apple has done is so perfectly stripped down, everything will resemble it, then your not thinking about this creatively enough. There is tons of room for alternate methods.
Right now the argument that competition will help apple make better products is moot, because no one is actually doing anything different.
Oh, and if you are under the delusion that what apple has done is so perfectly stripped down, everything will resemble it, then your not thinking about this creatively enough. There is tons of room for alternate methods.
How is the Prada prior art for the iPhone? Icons, grids and touch screens existed before the iPhone and the Prada, it's just Apples implementation that didn't (i.e. square icons in a 4x4 grid with a 4 icon dock below it). The Prada and iPhone aren't remotely similar.
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Who are you? Your a goddamn super-troll! Your on all forums that have even an ounce of controversy. You do nothing but fuel the fire and then sit back and watch all these idiots bicker don't you? It is fun watching everyone playing lawyer like they know IP laws then you throw a stick and watch em run. When they prove you wrong you magically shrug it off then redirect them with some other apple bash and enjoy the carnage they deal to their own brains. Nice! So I'll bet you have an iPhone, maybe iPad and/or MacBook. Keep it up. It's entertaining
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Who are you? Your a goddamn super-troll! Your on all forums that have even an ounce of controversy. You do nothing but fuel the fire and then sit back and watch all these idiots bicker don't you? It is fun watching everyone playing lawyer like they know IP laws then you throw a stick and watch em run. When they prove you wrong you magically shrug it off then redirect them with some other apple bash and enjoy the carnage they deal to their own brains. Nice! So I'll bet you have an iPhone, maybe iPad and/or MacBook. Keep it up. It's entertaining
Agreed, and I love HTC's UI too (I'm with sprint so I can't get an iPhone, so I have an HTC with android
LOL
The trolls got a talking point: Prada. And off they go... Never mind that they are wrong.
Yet he has a point.
The trolls got a talking point: Prada. And off they go... Never mind that they are wrong.
Yet he has a point.
So, it's the 4x4 icon grid that is unique? Don't be ridiculous. I am sure that nobody would allow Apple to patent the number of icons. Besides, would you be OK then with Samsung switching to 5x4 icon matrix?
I'd disagree to that, considering HTC is coming up with some pretty intuitive things, I especially love the widgets on my HTC with android phone
I am not sure what exactly you are complaining about. Are you saying that patents can not be invalidated? But that's exactly what happened to Cover Flow patent. Quote: "In October 2010, a judge in East Texas Federal Court sided with Mirror Worlds and awarded the now defunct company $625.5 million in damages ($208.5 million per patent). Apple appealed this ruling and argued that Mirror Worlds' patents were invalid because the company failed to cite prior art and filed the patents incorrectly.". Or, perhaps, you are arguing that other company patents may be invalidated but Apple's ones may not? You've got me puzzled.