Lion randomly crashing..?

garry12 · Jul 12, 2011

Clark971 said:
Sorry to say that, but miknos I don't think your problem is the same than our.
We are talking about the computer going black randomly (fans always on) and no other way than hard reboot, followed by a kernel panic.

Alright guys, I've done the clean install, without Wi-Fi. I'm plugged in with ethernet and I never crashed. I will try to enable Wi-Fi to see if I crash now.

Edit : I crashed 2 times with Wi-Fi within 30 minutes I think that the problem is more likely to produce with the Mac App Store because it is checking internet every time. Now I'm going to try ethernet a few hours again.
I'll try to connect to another Wi-Fi network too, because the one I'm using is opened with no SSID broadcasting. Maybe that's the reason. I'll try this after ethernet.

Interesting stuff, keep us updated.

archdude · Jul 13, 2011

garry12 said:
Interesting stuff, keep us updated.

Disregard my first message. The repair mysteriously stopped the issue for a week or so but then it returned just as bad as ever.

This ONLY started to happen once I upgraded to Lion. Never happened in Snow Leopard and if I boot into my Windows 7 partition, it's fine.

Clark971 · Jul 13, 2011

Me too, now it's happening only in Lion. But it didn't happened for a long time now (half a day)

Yaktor · Jul 18, 2011

This bug is killing me...I've been through every OSX beta/gm release over the past 10 years and I've never encountered anything this bad this close to release. Arrrgghhh!

6836838 · Jul 18, 2011

Exactly the same issue on a mid-2010 15" MBP. Same stack trace as the original poster.

Seems it's NVIDA related. Can be reproduced by selecting the App Store directly after booting up. Other things cause it to happen also, but always involves clicking something. Doesn't crash on normal cpu usage etc.

Verify disk returns no errors. I've also tried a clean install of GM and the same problem persists. Have sent numerous stack traces to Apple which all indicate an NVIDA issues. Temperature of all components pretty low and within normal limits.

Very annoying. Completely unusable. Am scared to do anything for fear of a lock-up.

I hope they release a patch for us mid-2012 users.

I have latest firmware and updates.

I suspect they will get the GM out for new macs and then patch up the software for older macs. I don't recommend the GM for mid-2010 MBP users out there.

6836838 · Jul 18, 2011

Update:

using gfxCardStatus to run in integrated gfx mode only. No crashes so far. This will prove it's nVIDA related or not.

Looking good so far

Apple/NVIDA pls hurry with new drivers!

GFX:
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M:

Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0a29
Revision ID: 0x00a2
ROM Revision: 3560
gMux Version: 1.9.21

garry12 · Jul 19, 2011

acedout said:
Update:

using gfxCardStatus to run in integrated gfx mode only. No crashes so far. This will prove it's nVIDA related or not.

Looking good so far

Apple/NVIDA pls hurry with new drivers!

GFX:
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M:

Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0a29
Revision ID: 0x00a2
ROM Revision: 3560
gMux Version: 1.9.21

Thanks for the update. For the record I have the same gpu and same rom revision/gMux version. Using gfxCardStatus to stay with integrated too and haven't had any crashes (yet).

richlu · Jul 20, 2011

I have been having this same problem with my mid-2010 MBP since December 2010 on and off. It actually went away for a while (a couple of months) prior to my upgrading to Lion today. I had switched it to not automatically adjust the brightness and the problem went away for a while. However, since upgrading to Lion today, I have experienced about 6 of these crashes (I can't call them anything else) and a host of other weird anomalies. I have taken my MBP to the Genius Bar and even left it there overnight and they have had nothing useful to say about it, except to reinstall the system after erasing the drive. It seems that now the screen will not only go black randomly, but it will also refuse to wake from sleep if left longer than a half an hour. My warranty is unfortunately expired and I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that the Geniuses will be more interested in swapping out a motherboard or a video card now that I will be paying for the repairs. Unless this is a Lion issue, I feel like I have no choice but to do that. But if anyone manages to get this issue resolved, please post to let us know. Thanks.

6836838 · Jul 21, 2011

richlu said:
I have been having this same problem with my mid-2010 MBP since December 2010 on and off. It actually went away for a while (a couple of months) prior to my upgrading to Lion today. I had switched it to not automatically adjust the brightness and the problem went away for a while. However, since upgrading to Lion today, I have experienced about 6 of these crashes (I can't call them anything else) and a host of other weird anomalies. I have taken my MBP to the Genius Bar and even left it there overnight and they have had nothing useful to say about it, except to reinstall the system after erasing the drive. It seems that now the screen will not only go black randomly, but it will also refuse to wake from sleep if left longer than a half an hour. My warranty is unfortunately expired and I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that the Geniuses will be more interested in swapping out a motherboard or a video card now that I will be paying for the repairs. Unless this is a Lion issue, I feel like I have no choice but to do that. But if anyone manages to get this issue resolved, please post to let us know. Thanks.

Amazed they even looked at it given it's still officially a beta.

6836838 · Jul 21, 2011

Should point out that this occurred on a Preview 4 upgrade and full clean install of the GM.

Apple need to address this asap.

PS Don't worry about 12 month warranties. An expensive MBP isn't really fit for purose if it stops working even after a year! I'd say a laptop should work for at least 5 years. And in the EU you're entitled to a warranty for a reasonable period of time. A $2,000 laptop should last longer than a year!

kod88vn · Jul 22, 2011

This works

acedout said:
Update:

using gfxCardStatus to run in integrated gfx mode only. No crashes so far. This will prove it's nVIDA related or not.

Looking good so far

Apple/NVIDA pls hurry with new drivers!

GFX:
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M:

Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0a29
Revision ID: 0x00a2
ROM Revision: 3560
gMux Version: 1.9.21

I've tried everything I can get in many threads, including reinstall OS, reset PRAM (or something similar). None has worked until this.
Yes, gfxCardStatus helps. Using only integrated card will do it for now. But we need NVIDIA supports because, well I need photoshop sometimes

6836838 · Jul 22, 2011

Following my original post, not one crash since using integrated gfx.

Yaktor · Jul 24, 2011

10.7.2

Has anyone tried the 10.7.2 update to see if it fixes the problem yet? I am getting by with gfxCardStatus running in integrated mode, but this is getting really old...I can't use my external Cinema Display in integrated mode.

the5th · Jul 24, 2011

I've been plagued by this same issue starting from 10.6.6 trough to 10.7 Initially external monitor and using spotlight was a trigger for the screen to cut off. Than pretty much any random app or action would trigger it. With the 10.7 being worst affected. Multiple crashes in a row, any random combination of things.

Had my mid- 2010 MBP at repair shop for 3 days, and returned to me without any solution. Officially they could not support 10.7 as at the time 10.7 was not released to public, so they would not support or troubleshoot on it. Had to restore 10.6.8 to my secondary internal drive on which they where unable to replicate kernel panic, but they blamed my SSD[custom install not supported by apple] drive as possible suspect. All other hardware and software was given ok by tehem.

However I can see now from this thread that this is a common issue that needs serious attention from apple.

6836838 · Jul 24, 2011

the5th said:
I've been plagued by this same issue starting from 10.6.6 trough to 10.7 Initially external monitor and using spotlight was a trigger for the screen to cut off. Than pretty much any random app or action would trigger it. With the 10.7 being worst affected. Multiple crashes in a row, any random combination of things.

Had my mid- 2010 MBP at repair shop for 3 days, and returned to me without any solution. Officially they could not support 10.7 as at the time 10.7 was not released to public, so they would not support or troubleshoot on it. Had to restore 10.6.8 to my secondary internal drive on which they where unable to replicate kernel panic, but they blamed my SSD[custom install not supported by apple] drive as possible suspect. All other hardware and software was given ok by tehem.

However I can see now from this thread that this is a common issue that needs serious attention from apple.

Are you sure it's the same problem? Do you have a stack trace? I have ONLY ever seen this in 10.7, unless it's exploiting a hardware fault that's been there for a while.

6836838 · Jul 24, 2011

Yaktor said:
Has anyone tried the 10.7.2 update to see if it fixes the problem yet? I am getting by with gfxCardStatus running in integrated mode, but this is getting really old...I can't use my external Cinema Display in integrated mode.

Downloading now. Let's see!

6836838 · Jul 24, 2011

acedout said:
Downloading now. Let's see!

No crash so far under 10.7.2 (using dynamic/NVIDIA as default)

6836838 · Jul 25, 2011

Much much better, but had my first crash until 10.7.2. Was when putting mail in full screen mode...

diamond.g · Jul 25, 2011

I seem to be having issues with mds and mdworker. Specifically during Time Machine backups. My spouses 2011 MacBook Pro is unaffected.

vlan2k · Jul 26, 2011

Lion Blackscreen

Installed Lion yesterday morning... almost immediately started getting random Blackscreen crashes. Mostly when clicking on a link or email or file... but really no repeating event to point to.

2010 MBP I7 w/ 8gb RAM

I keep seeing references to "10.7.2" but I'm guessing that's available to developers only right now.

Installed gFXCardStatus to see if that'll work... but I'm a designer so I really CAN'T be without the discrete video card... or my Mac.

Looking for suggestions, ideas, condolences, or camaraderie....

zcruix · Jul 26, 2011

MBP Late 2008 2.53 / 8 GB upgrade - Lion Upgrade

It crashed every single time I booted into it some times it is at the login screen with BSD process on SystemUIServer and sometimes it is Kernel_task. This is really frustrating just like Windows Vista.

vlan2k · Jul 26, 2011

Update

Since I installed gfxCardStatus and set the card for "Discrete Only", Lion hasn't crashed. Based on this one bit of evidence, it seems to me that it has a problem with the "Dynamic" card selection.

Others might want to try this and see if it works for them.

gumbyx84 · Jul 26, 2011

Not sure if anyone cares anymore, but Paragon was causing my Lion install to crash on login. I had to go into Single User Mode and disable the driver to get it to work. Uninstalled it and having no more problems. Just going to wait of OSXFUSE and (hopefully) an update to NTFS-3G.

the5th · Jul 26, 2011

acedout said:
Are you sure it's the same problem? Do you have a stack trace? I have ONLY ever seen this in 10.7, unless it's exploiting a hardware fault that's been there for a while.

This looks as the same issue to me, perhaps i'm missing something. They have given all the hardware ok at the repair center you think they are covering some larger fault?

Code:

Tue Jul 26 10:27:57 2011
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xa01c97): NVRM[0/1:0:0]: Read Error 0x00000100: CFG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0xffffffff, BAR0 0xc0000000 0xa6e5a000 0x0a5480a2, D0, P2/4
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x83cca188 : 0x21b837 (0x5dd7fc 0x83cca1bc 0x223ce1 0x0) 
0x83cca1d8 : 0xa01c97 (0xc1722c 0xc87840 0xc25f88 0x0) 
0x83cca278 : 0xb1c5db (0xe727004 0xe728004 0x100 0xce12b6) 
0x83cca2c8 : 0xb135d4 (0xe728004 0x100 0x83cca2f8 0x9f1774) 
0x83cca2f8 : 0x1716965 (0xe728004 0x100 0x438004ee 0x83cca308) 
0x83cca438 : 0xb3b258 (0xe728004 0xe73f004 0x0 0x0) 
0x83cca478 : 0xa0ae2b (0xe728004 0xe73f004 0x0 0x0) 
0x83cca518 : 0xa0750a (0x0 0x9 0x0 0x0) 
0x83cca6c8 : 0xa0953e (0x0 0x600d600d 0x702b 0x83cca6f8) 
0x83cca798 : 0xccceae (0xc1d00049 0xbfef0033 0xbfee0034 0x857c) 
0x83cca808 : 0xcdc734 (0xeaa7600 0xde43900 0x8 0x0) 
0x83cca828 : 0xd01322 (0xde43900 0xb 0x83cca848 0x2c08) 
0x83cca858 : 0xd01b3d (0xe92f000 0x1 0x83cca87c 0x0) 
0x83cca888 : 0xce1d79 (0xe92f000 0xa4704080 0x1 0xce) 
0x83cca8d8 : 0xca3d0c (0x6d3e4000 0x1 0x0 0x3) 
0x83cca948 : 0xca340f (0x6d3e4000 0x1 0x2 0x3) 
0x83cca978 : 0xc9905f (0x6d3e4000 0x1 0x2 0x6d385000) 
0x83ccaab8 : 0xcd25d8 (0x6d385000 0x1 0x83ccabcc 0x83ccabc8) 
0x83ccab68 : 0xc94fe1 (0x6d385000 0x1 0x83ccabcc 0x83ccabc8) 
0x83ccabe8 : 0x56da06 (0x6d385000 0x0 0x83ccae3c 0x83ccac74) 
0x83ccac38 : 0x56e2a5 (0xd23720 0x6d385000 0xf63f488 0x1) 
0x83ccac88 : 0x56eb59 (0x6d385000 0x10 0x83ccacd0 0x0) 
0x83ccada8 : 0x286638 (0x6d385000 0x10 0xf63f488 0x1) 
0x83ccbe58 : 0x21dbe5 (0xf63f460 0x1c8425a0 0x1fd7e8 0x5e43) 
0x83ccbe98 : 0x210a86 (0xf63f400 0x0 0xe2ae540 0xea9d5b0) 
0x83ccbef8 : 0x216f84 (0xf63f400 0x0 0x0 0x0) 
0x83ccbf78 : 0x295c57 (0xdfa74c8 0x0 0x0 0x0) 
0x83ccbfc8 : 0x2a256d (0xdfa74c4 0x1 0x10 0x0) 
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):
         com.apple.GeForce(6.3.6)@0xc89000->0xd3ffff
            dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(6.3.6)@0x99b000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.2)@0x98e000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6.5)@0x955000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.2)@0x96c000
         com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal(6.3.6)@0x15e0000->0x19f4fff
            dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(6.3.6)@0x99b000
         com.apple.NVDAResman(6.3.6)@0x99b000->0xc88fff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6.5)@0x955000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.2)@0x98e000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.2)@0x96c000

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer

Mac OS version:
10K540

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro6,2 (Mac-F22586C8)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 2723206739766
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Dazzlew · Jul 27, 2011

I'm too having this black screen issue after installing Lion - no random crashing just leaving the machine suspended and returning and not able to use it.

My install was an upgrade over Snow Leopard 10.6.8. MacBook Pro 15" 2010
Using GFX card status as dynamic. Will try and troubleshoot more.

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