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Apple Puts Legacy Final Cut Studio Back on Sale
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I actually got a called from Apple store.
That was the day before yesterday, asking me if I knew about FCPX. I told the lady that it would be like going to Cuba and vote for Fidel Castro.
Probably Apple was doing a survey in the case. I told the girl so many things that were wrong with FCPX.
It was not a realistic software for the industry, no compatibility. And Avid and Premiere were so much advance and that my company was planing to buy either both by next year but not FCPX.
That was it.
That was the day before yesterday, asking me if I knew about FCPX. I told the lady that it would be like going to Cuba and vote for Fidel Castro.
Probably Apple was doing a survey in the case. I told the girl so many things that were wrong with FCPX.
It was not a realistic software for the industry, no compatibility. And Avid and Premiere were so much advance and that my company was planing to buy either both by next year but not FCPX.
That was it.
This will certainly put my Non-linear Editing professor at ease. He is Final Cut Pro certified and can't stand the new software.
I just called them and they say they don't have an upgrade price. Anyone remember what it was?
It was $300. I lucked out one time and bought the upgrade at the Apple Store for my job (needed a quick edit station for a freelancer!) and somehow got the full version in a box marked upgrade!
I know the older version (7) is more feature-rich and better tolerated by the professional editing community...
BUT, resurrect the OLD version, and sell it for $700 more than the 2011 version??? Can Apple not sell the older version at a more comparable price, considering FCP X is $299? This is just ridiculous...$999 is getting on par with what Adobe charges for their CS5 suites. I wish Apple would just provide the older versions for free, after all, or possibly offer FCP 7 on the App Store at the same price as FCPX. $999.00 is prohibitive and only for people who need the software for their livelihood.
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FinalCutPro 6 and prior versions were coded for PowerPC (Rosetta) and did not have Intel code....Lion dropped support for Rosetta and PowerPC apps altogether. The latest version of FinalCutStudio 3 is UNIVERSAL meaning it has both Intel and PowerPC code, so it will run fine on Lion.
BUT, resurrect the OLD version, and sell it for $700 more than the 2011 version??? Can Apple not sell the older version at a more comparable price, considering FCP X is $299? This is just ridiculous...$999 is getting on par with what Adobe charges for their CS5 suites. I wish Apple would just provide the older versions for free, after all, or possibly offer FCP 7 on the App Store at the same price as FCPX. $999.00 is prohibitive and only for people who need the software for their livelihood.
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FinalCutPro 6 and prior versions were coded for PowerPC (Rosetta) and did not have Intel code....Lion dropped support for Rosetta and PowerPC apps altogether. The latest version of FinalCutStudio 3 is UNIVERSAL meaning it has both Intel and PowerPC code, so it will run fine on Lion.
Some features were dropped, but they poured a lot of effort into other features(they re-wrote the Windows sharing service from the ground up, but thats really because Apple is trying to get rid of all GPLv3 software ASAP)
I do agree with partnering with a 3rd party vendor, but it wont be HP, if they partner with ANYBODY it will be Oracle. Steve and Larry are good friends, and Apple already has an extensive cooperative relationship with Oracle, from what I understand all of Apples NC data center servers are Oracle. Furthermore since Steve is no longer at the helm, the absolute hatred of clones, any clones, may be softened a bit to allow a server only partnership to form.....
However there is another possibility. Since Apple has "appified" Lion Server so much, they could be potentially preparing to port at least some of the OS X server functionalities(particularly OD which would probably be far the easiest to port since it is already built on top of standard technologies) to other OSs so that admins can easily manage networks full of mac/iPhones without having to try to rackmount a mac pro.....
You're confusing "Frequent" with "Regular"!
:-/
I haven't read any FCPexpress users complain about the new FCPX. I guess it's $100 more... and it does require a rethink ... but generally positive reports once FCPexpress users have learned the new version.
If we accept that they can't just import a FCP7 project without some loss - would it be valuable to make a partial import? i.e.: all the clips in an approximate timeline with the closest transitions & titles possible etc?
Then you could go through it and fix it.
Sorry I wasn't an FCP7 user, not sure.
On that note, does the new Compressor work well with FCP7? Is there a reason you'd want to use the old one still?
Are there any similar ways Apple could use their new code to improve the old (perhaps as an interim step while FCPX evolves).
Actually, no. You're mistaken. I was waiting for the upgrade to version 'X' so I could edit my new film www.jewofmalta.com -- shot on a pair of Canon 5D's. However, I need many of the features they stripped out -- including proper DVD authoring software
This describes my experience pretty closely. I did the same project in Premier CS5 and FCPX when it first came out, and this was exactly my experience. FCPX needed twice the storage space as Premier and produced a video with notably more artifacts (DSLR workflow). The background rendering bogged my machine down, when it didn't cause it to crash. While premiere didn't render effects in real time as smoothly as FCPx it also didn't completely bog down my system. It also made time critical edits very difficult to make, even after I caved to the way it wanted me to do something. Setting the duration of transitions and clips became more difficult to do. All this while losing the ability to seamlessly integrate with After Effects and Photoshop (not that I used either on this project). So even though I am a one man shop and the lack of the professional features didn't effect me, I dropped FCPx and went with Premiere.
If people are voicing their will to pay over 3x the price for old software why wouldn't Apple oblige? That's like every software company's dream.
Though seriously I never bothered to try FCPX; still sticking with my FCS box set. Anyways FCS only cost me $300.
Though seriously I never bothered to try FCPX; still sticking with my FCS box set. Anyways FCS only cost me $300.
I thought that Apple didn't make mistakes. Or when they do, they don't admit it. You're holding it wrong, or in the case of FCP X, you're using it wrong.
I'm not in any way a video editor. OK I put together some Nikon Coolpix and iPhone 3Gs videos in iMovie. That probably means that I am really not in any way a video editor. Yet I find it great news when Apple stops, pauses or reverses its retreat from serious computing and professional applications.
Looks like apple is seeing folks jump to adobe and avid's discounted software to bring FCS back. Might be a little to late. Apple pissed off allot of folks.
I have a theory that for Apple to improve one software another must tank. For example, they fix Mobile Me with iCloud and FCPX fails. So when they fix FCPX, I'm sure some software will be upgraded to some crap version.
I doubt that this move will get many people to reverse their decisions to move to Premiere/Avid.
It will, however, give them the ability to buy new FCP licenses for new hires - while they're moving the shop off FCP.
It's very unlikely that any existing video project will be moved to a new platform - but new projects will start on the new platform.
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Perhaps you should re-read the stories about HP - they are not going to sell the ProLiant server division. The discussion is to sell the consumer PC business - like IBM a few years ago. IBM still sells x64 servers, but Lenovo does the laptops and desktops.
Saw this on another board. Looks like Apple is just clearing out old stock.
So this appears to not be a change in policy but a "clearance sale" of sorts, but at full retail price.
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/09/01/apple-explains-decision-to-start-selling-final-cut-studio-again/
So this appears to not be a change in policy but a "clearance sale" of sorts, but at full retail price.
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/09/01/apple-explains-decision-to-start-selling-final-cut-studio-again/
That doesn't make any sense at all. Even fully-boxed retail-quality software packages including manuals and everything still only costs a mega-corporation like Apple pennies per box. There's basically zero money invested in these software boxes, so there's zero reason to have a clearance sale on it.
What a perfectly rational statement. Is that a breath of fresh air I smell?
First world problems
Indeed.
Too late. switched to Premiere and liking it. Re releasing Final cut 7 just tells me FCPX won't be up to par anytime soon.