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I wish Apple would stop with the Gimmicks and give us usable features like true LED notifications!
 
If this ends up being true and coming out with the new device, I will take it as some bling factor, not so much real-word usability.

I already think bluetooth headsets are a bit pretentious (99% of the time), do we really want people walking around giving their iPhone constant commands? Haha

Using this while driving would be great though, if the new devices are actually equipped with this that is..

Looks nifty, just not practical.. Oh well, one more bonus right?
 
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Mr. Chewbacca said:
revolutionary!! Just like facetime.. you know the thing I used the first day I got the phone...

and never again :rolleyes:

It is not apples fault you don't know anyone who wants to see you
 
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KingCrimson said:
I can see no iFanboys have anything to say about MSFT beating Apple to the punch on Speech Interface.

Maybe because nobody cares. ;)
 
Have they solved the problem of feeling like a complete idiot when you use these sort of interfaces?

Have people watch more past episodes of Star Trek.

I never thought that Spock or Piccard looked like idiots talking to the wall or to their com. badge.

The next iPhone will be a large chunky heavy com. badge.

"Computer. What is the best alternate route around this traffic jam? Email wife that I will be late. Turn off coffee pot at 0900. Shields at maximum."

Star Trek predicted something pretty close to the iPad and touch control panels. What's next?
 
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theperipheral said:
Looks great.

Apple likes the big gambles-- loves inventing completely new devices and making previously failed technology viable/successful.

They've failed a lot, but this could be HUGE. Tablets and ipods huge. First you get the technology that works, then you get the behavior that changes to adapt to it. If its good enough it could begin a change in behavior similar to the introduction of the cellphone in public.

The problem with it is that if you want to send a text or an e-mail, many times I would imagine the person sending it doesn't want their neighbor on the train, or the person in line behind them at McDonald's to get in on their personal stuff. Any voice stuff is really only good for alone time.

Plus, if you're sitting there having a text conversation, what's the point of not just calling the person you're texting and having a normal human conversation?

So nobody talks on their cellphones in public?
 
You know how else this could be really useful? As a translation tool. Let's say I'm traveling to China. I could speak into the phone, and either it would repeat what I say in Chinese, or write it out so I can show someone I'm trying to communicate with.
 
You know how else this could be really useful? As a translation tool. Let's say I'm traveling to China. I could speak into the phone, and either it would repeat what I say in Chinese, or write it out so I can show someone I'm trying to communicate with.

Uhh.. you can do this right now with the google translate app, or numerous other apps. Not exactly a novel concept.
 
Using this while driving would be great though, if the new devices are actually equipped with this that is..

I think that is the primary use. A hands free operation. For it to work well, however, iOS would also need VoiceOver API. If I say "read unread text messages" or "read text message from Michael", Asisstant should be smart enough to use VoiceOver API to speak text messages.
 
Uhh.. you can do this right now with the google translate app, or numerous other apps. Not exactly a novel concept.
How well do they work? From what I've read, Google Translate is not very accurate and does literal translations (doesn't adjust for grammar differences), and the text-to-speech function pronounces all other languages as if written in English. Furthermore, I've read that it doesn't do well with with recognition of non-English spoken languages. Do you actually know of anyone who has used it successfully as a travel tool? Have you?

The concept may not be new, but it seems like the implementation has thus far been lacking. With sufficient hardware muscle (dual A5?) + state of the art engine (Nuance) + effective parsing algorithms (Siri) it might be a different matter.
 
Plus, if you're sitting there having a text conversation, what's the point of not just calling the person you're texting and having a normal human conversation?

There are lots of times when one person can talk and the other person can't.

Say I'm driving but my coworker might be in a meeting. I can talk and listen but not text. And he can read and text but not talk. Or vice versa.
 
This is the fundamental difference between the Android and the Apple camps.

Androidies think and talk in terms of features, hardware specs

Applelites think in terms of experience


Case In Point:

For those comparing WP7 Tell Me and Google Voice Actions with Apple Assistant:

WP7 and Tell Me are not "Assistants". They perform actions based on voice inputs. WP7 implementation does simpler things (invoking apps, calling a cell phone number). Voice Action packs in more capability (though I haven't worked with either of those, this is based purely on watching videos)

However, if iOS Assistant is anything close to what's described in the Video and something akin the App Siri, then, the Assistant won't simply be "voice commands". You can have conversations, do more things than just call or send text. The assistant will also be more accurate by the virtue of understanding the context of a conversation (you'll understand this if you've carefully observed Siri mobile apps).

Just recognizing voice accurately is not enough. There has to be a simple and logical flow, like a conversation. I'm hoping Apple will nail that (as they've done sometimes before)
 
Having a dedicated Assistant UI seems.... clunky.

Hypothetically speaking:
So I send a txt to Scott via the Ass.UI.
He sends one back that I then read in the Messages App (or would Ass.UI read it back?)
If I want to reply via voice-to-text, I have to go back to the Ass.UI?

Also having to "long-press" anything to initiate this kinda kills any hopes of being truly hands-free.

Yes, yes. "artist's rendition". More like artist's comedy.

Tuesday will be Truthday. In iPhone Land anyway. ;)

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Because the iPod app was split into "Music" and "Videos" in iOS 5.



Very true. Artist rendering is done by poor artist with bad concept and poor thought. Artist should be ashamed.

Tuesday will be very good. Cook will become the new CEO and best Apple ever had. :apple::apple::apple:
 
Uhh.. you can do this right now with the google translate app, or numerous other apps. Not exactly a novel concept.

Apple is not about novel concepts. It's about putting them together elegantly and tuning them up until a profitably large critical mass of customers actually thinks that these concepts are useful to them.
 
This is the fundamental difference between the Android and the Apple camps.

Androidies think and talk in terms of features, hardware specs

Applelites think in terms of experience

Not true at all.

Apple fans never shut up about the Retina Display and Thunderbolt being better spec that others had.

It's just a defence excuse. As they are used to having poorer hardware they pretend specs don't matter, but as soon as their specs are better then they should long and hard about it.
 
Not true at all.

Apple fans never shut up about the Retina Display and Thunderbolt being better spec that others had.

It's just a defence excuse. As they are used to having poorer hardware they pretend specs don't matter, but as soon as their specs are better then they should long and hard about it.


I didn't say "Argue", I said "think" (which basically means "desire" a better experience, even at the cost of lower specs)

Edit: On a second thought, don't sweat on the above, it's probably something you can't understand :)
 
can i use it to take direct notes in class. It would be so awesome if it would change the speech to a text/audio file. That would be so awesome!
 
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