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- I always choose to "keep file" when I delete music. What I noticed is that when I re download the newer 256k version, it does so, and it also still keeps my old song in the same exact location/folder as before.

Example: I deleted Bitter Sweet Symphony, which was 128k. I chose to "keep file." After downloading the newer version, I went to the folder's location in my iTunes Music folder, and there were two files: the older, 128k mp3 version, and the newer 256k AAC version. My iTunes library simply just ignores the 128k mp3 version.

This seems like a bad idea. Not because you retain your original... but now instead of a library being maybe 40 gigs, you can potentially have 80+ gigs for the same library after Matching.
 
Not to mention that things like podcasts and videos still have to be synced so it's not like syncing is going away.

Came into this thread hoping to find out if this worked for podcasts too, and I guess I just got my answer. Drat.

Well, hopefully Apple will let us share podcast subscriptions between devices and download podcasts on demand too. Because if you think about it, podcasts are already on "the cloud" and there's really no reason they have to be downloaded long before they're played… (For standard audio podcasts, at least.)
 
after 17 hours I am at 1591 songs uploaded, 5838 songs matched, and 2179 songs waiting to be uploaded. 60% matched, not too bad. a lot of the 40% is live music, which is only available from band websites (livephish.com, umlive.net, nugs.net, livedownloads.com, archive.org). yes, i'm a hippie jamband fan...
 
How the heck is iTunes matching mono Beatles tracks?! They aren't selling the Beatles In Mono box, so they don't have the songs, and yet I'm showing matches on most of my mono stuff. (I have yet to listen, as it's still in process.)
 
iTunes Match breaks Genius

If you use Genius on an iPhone or iPod, will it automatically download songs from iCloud as needed, or will it only match songs that are already on the device?

Nobody's tested whether Genius will match iCloud songs that aren't on the device? That's the main way I'd probably want to use it; streaming songs automatically like Pandora.

Well, I got to test this myself, and $25 later… it looks like turning on iCloud disables Genius completely on iOS devices! The icon just goes disappears, and I can't even make Genius playlists for songs that are on the device. :mad:

This is crazy. Is Genius working for anyone else with iTunes Match turned on?
 
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How can I see the stats of my iTunes Match? When I click on the iTunes Match in iTunes I get an add this computer page... But it's still uploading songs.. I just can't get back to that page.. but I do see it up at the very top...
 
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Why isn't album art loading all the way when enabling iTunes match on a new iPod touch? Anyone else experiencing this?
 
It's uploading about 12,000 of my 24,000 or so, about 50%.


So what happens when I play on shuffle on my idevice, will it keep downloading tunes until my device is filled up? Then I would have to manually delete the songs? How does this work?
 
iTunes Match is a streaming music service, not a music-bandwidth-auto-upgrader service. By "matching" their copy with yours, it saves you the hassle of having to upload everything from your library to their servers. Their local copy just happens to be 256kbps.
You have no idea if Apple intended this to be a feature or not. Your insistence that it is merely some kind of ancillary side-effect is bizarre. They could very easily have not allowed the matched tracks to be downloaded DRM free. But they apparently worked very hard with the labels to allow the service to do just that.

I would venture Apple wanted very much for this to be a feature that would appeal to many people even as their sole reason for paying for Match.




Michael
 
Anijake said:
So what happens when I play on shuffle on my idevice, will it keep downloading tunes until my device is filled up? Then I would have to manually delete the songs? How does this work?
As far as I can tell, there is no longer a shuffle all option if you have iTunes Match turned on on an iDevice. You can still shuffle songs in one album, but not your entire library. I still have songs uploading, so maybe it will become available again when that process is complete, but right now that option does not exist.

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Your insistence that it is merely some kind of ancillary side-effect is bizzare.
Anyone who ripped their music properly or purchased it through legal channels would already have high bitrate versions of everything they own. Those who have been downloading tracks via p2p and have ended up with low bitrates, poorly constructed metadata, or incomplete files may certainly see this as a welcome side effect to the service. But no, I believe that this was about making music accessible through the cloud, not about fixing your broken collections.
 
How the heck is iTunes matching mono Beatles tracks?! They aren't selling the Beatles In Mono box, so they don't have the songs, and yet I'm showing matches on most of my mono stuff. (I have yet to listen, as it's still in process.)

I noticed that, too, so I took a listen on my iPhone to one of the mono tracks it matched, and guess what: it's the stereo version. I want my money back.
 
One surprise: Songs ripped below 96K are ineligible. Which brings up a thorny dilemma:

I have a few songs, dating back from the very dawn of the digital age, that fall into this category. A rip I made of a pre-recorded cassette I used to have of a golden-oldie my parents used to play: Horst Jankowski's Walk in the Black Forest. Not eligible, because back in 2002 (or whatever) I didn't know what I was doing, and recorded it a 56K - before I lost my tape.

So what to do?

I had a few of these. What I did is just use convert them to higher bit rate files (doesn't actually do anything for the audio, so of course pointless before iTunes Match), and then let Match scan the new files and match them. Then I just deleted the old ineligible file and the new matched one and downloaded the full quality version from Match. Just make sure you don't put them into too high of a bit rate. I used 128k MP3's, just because I figured it would work quickly while still meeting the requirements. Took just a few seconds per song at most.

For the record, I have 5583 songs in my library. Of those, 19 were uploaded to iCloud, 22 were ineligible (currently working around those few that are actually music using the above technique), 144 were purchased from iTunes, and the remaining 4546 were matched. Which is.. wait for it... 4731. Where are my other 852 songs? "Waiting..." even though iTunes Match says it's finished. All I can assume is that it's working on uploading them, and just taking it slow, but I don't know that for sure. EDIT: 7 of those actually had errors. Not sure if it's going to try again later or if they're just not going to work. I'm not horribly disappointed at not having those 7, so I'm not really worried about it.

jW
 
As far as I can tell, there is no longer a shuffle all option if you have iTunes Match turned on on an iDevice. You can still shuffle songs in one album, but not your entire library. I still have songs uploading, so maybe it will become available again when that process is complete, but right now that option does not exist.

I am shuffling now, just hit play and the shuffle icon come up in the header. It looks like it keeps the file until I do a sync but then gets deleted. I do not see my smart playlist for recently played being updated though.
 
iTunes Match Replaced explicit songs with clean!

iTunes Match Replaced explicit songs with clean!

I really hope they can fix this...
 
I am shuffling now, just hit play and the shuffle icon come up in the header. It looks like it keeps the file until I do a sync but then gets deleted. I do not see my smart playlist for recently played being updated though.
Ah, cool. Good find, thanks!
 
You have no idea if Apple intended this to be a feature or not. Your insistence that it is merely some kind of ancillary side-effect is bizarre. They could very easily have not allowed the matched tracks to be downloaded DRM free. But they apparently worked very hard with the labels to allow the service to do just that.

I would venture Apple wanted very much for this to be a feature that would appeal to many people even as their sole reason for paying for Match.




Michael

It is the reason I subscribed. Apple has not stated this is wrong in any sense and since it is a capability, I would assume it is a feature as they intended it to be.
 
Anyone who ripped their music properly or purchased it through legal channels would already have high bitrate versions of everything they own.
That is an arrogant and misguided assertion. Not everyone has the time to go back and re-rip CDs that were ripped before iTunes itself even existed.

Moreover, not everyone even cared to do that as even 128kbps MP3 was "good enough."

But paying $25, a few mouse-clicks, and get their entire collection updated painlessly? Sign them up!

You are also ignoring DRM'd iTunes music that was not upgraded to plus format. For many people, myself included, the price of iTunes Match is less, sometimes far less, than paying to get all that music updated.



Those who have been downloading tracks via p2p and have ended up with low bitrates, poorly constructed metadata, or incomplete files may certainly see this as a welcome side effect to the service. But no, I believe that this was about making music accessible through the cloud, not about fixing your broken collections.
You can believe whatever you want, including that the only benefit to re-downloading using Match is for pirated music. <shrug>



Michael
 
I think I’m having much better luck than most. I only have about 50-60 tracks uploaded out of 3,500 that I feel should have been matched (I verified they are in the iTunes store). This is not counting music that I knew going in was not in the iTunes store (i.e. the band Tool). I am in the anal-retentive camp, so I spent plenty of time and effort in tagging correct metadata on all of my songs preparing for iTunes Match, but I am still in the camp as some people that have an entire album matched save for one song. What is that about? These are ripped from CDs, by me using iTunes and the iTunes Plus setting, so it’s frustrating that these aren’t being matched when the rest of the album was matched.

This question has been asked, but no one has answered. I’m assuming that’s because no one knows, but I will try again: Is there a way to re-scan to see if iTunes Match can find the iTunes store match for a previously uploaded track? I have tried deleting an album from iTunes and iCloud, re-ripping it and trying again, but it ends up having an issue with the same song in the album.

A few of them I understand. One album, the last track on my encode had a lot of skips and I pulled the CD and sure enough it was scratched and re-ripping gave the same skips. Another (Nirvana – Nevermind) has the super long last track where the last track and “bonus track” are combined as one track with a ton of dead space in between, but the iTunes store has it as two different tracks. So I know I’m not going to have luck with those types, which is fine. Where it is not is like my Snoop Dogg – Doggystyle album, about half the album is matched and half isn’t. NONE of this music is downloaded/torrent; these are 100% rips from CD using iTunes and are properly tagged.

Other than that gripe, I am pretty happy with the scan and match portion.
 
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Anyone who ripped their music properly or purchased it through legal channels would already have high bitrate versions of everything they own. Those who have been downloading tracks via p2p and have ended up with low bitrates, poorly constructed metadata, or incomplete files may certainly see this as a welcome side effect to the service. But no, I believe that this was about making music accessible through the cloud, not about fixing your broken collections.

When I first started ripping my CDs back in 2008, I ripped them solely in 128Kbps becasue at the time, it was good enough for me and I didn't want to use up all the space on my iMac at the time. This gives me the chance to upgrade them without having to re-rip them myself. Yes, there are many of us out here who did this back then.
 
Anyone know how to clear songs off your device without removing them from the cloud? i had 57 albums on my phone, all of which i removed from my device in itunes this morning, but now they are not showing up in my itunes match library. a good deal of these were itunes purchased albums..seems as if somehow by removing them from my phone i removed them from the cloud too?
 
iTunes match got stuck at 16570 songs out of 17300 last night, so I let it sit overnight. Woke up this morning and it didn't move at all. I restarted the process and it got threw steps 1 and 2 in about 25 min.

It ended up matching 14199 songs out of my ~17000 tracks. I'd say thats pretty solid considering a lot of my stuff is relatively obscure. Step 3 is taking it's sweet time now, no more than a song or two per min. I have 1mbps upload, but it's on time warner so who knows what I'm actually getting. I'm guessing its the iTunes servers getting pounded along with my crappy internet.
 
Anyone know how to clear songs off your device without removing them from the cloud? i had 57 albums on my phone, all of which i removed from my device in itunes this morning, but now they are not showing up in my itunes match library. a good deal of these were itunes purchased albums..seems as if somehow by removing them from my phone i removed them from the cloud too?

You can't remove tracks from the cloud from the iPhone. Removing from your iPhone will only remove the local copy. Once removed it should then display the cloud icon, showing it is ready to be downloaded again.

Tracks stored locally, as in no cloud icon, can be deleted by swiping.



Michael
 
Unfortunately it still asks for a credit card...even if you have credit in the itunes account :(

That may have been true during the beta, but it's not true as of yesterday. I had a (gift card) balance in my iTunes account when I subscribed to iTunes Match yesterday and the $25 was deducted from my iTunes account balance.

Mark
 
Can I connect to my iTunes Match with my iPod while my MacBook Pro is still uploading songs?
 
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