But what sucks is they have to turn it off within ten thousand feet of landing and takeoff.
Paper flight plans do not run out of battery and they are very unlikely to freeze on you.
Aren't electronics banned during take offs and landings because they want everyone to be alert and not miss safety announcements?
The tiller is for nose-wheel steering while on the ground during taxi.
Isn't it crazy that it took to come along with the iPad before air crews through "we could save fuel by not carrying all this paper". I'm amazed terminals weren't in use 5 years ago for this sort of thing...!
Well I'm pretty stoked about this. As a private pilot I am using my ipad for preflight, weather, and charts. (..) Just one device strapped to your leg. My first flight with it in the cockpit is this weekend!
Well I'm pretty stoked about this. As a private pilot I am using my ipad for preflight, weather, and charts. It has been working very well. I have only tested it in the simulator. I wanted to make sure it works as it should and that I feel comfortable with it. After several flights I am sold big time! It saves so much time. It is more than paper savings for me, and I will still fly with paper backup so I will not even realize that savings. I am most happy about the way it is so easy to access information very quickly without juggling papers, charts, or books in the cockpit. Just one device strapped to your leg. My first flight with it in the cockpit is this weekend!
Aren't electronics banned during take offs and landings because they want everyone to be alert and not miss safety announcements?
But what sucks is they have to turn it off within ten thousand feet of landing and takeoff.
My question is, why was American so cheap the past decade that they had to wait until a less expensive tablet came along.
Military, charter and private pilots have been using EFBs since the mid-1990s, and tablets since about 2000. (I know, because I used one back then for flight planning and charts.)
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I would also personally note that although it's often boring to keep paper updated, something can be said for being forced to notice that something has changed about an airport you frequent.
More like too expensive to use custom EFB's
It is not just the hardware, but getting FAA approval, and finally TRAINING. All that could run into the thousands, and that is not including repairs and service (chart updates).
I think it is a very silly argument that a pilot would see changes between paper charts. I never do, and cant look at old ones because they are long gone.
Conversely, and EFB *can* do this far, far better then the best pilot!
The digital plate can have the ability to hold both plates (old and new) with notes so pilot can much more easily see the changes.
After a few years of experience, one day 90% of paper will vanish from airline cockpits.
Why are the old ones "long gone" when you're replacing them? And if you're not noticing changes, then you're probably not complying with the primary directive to have "all available information" before flying
Personally I found it quite handy to notice that there's a new obstacle is in a landing path. But yeah, a lot of pilots just mass replace them and depend on NOTAMs if they exist.
This...Great...so I can now use mine during takeoff and landing....right?
The airlines can limit the use of wifi/GSM/BT for their pilots, but going through the cabins checking that all iPads/iWhatevers are also restricted puts too much onus on the flight attendants during the pre-flight/-landing checks.Edit: I bet they added another item to their preflight checklist: make sure cockpit iPads are in Airplane Mode! No WiFi, no Bluetooth radios.
Why do you think they filed for bankruptcy protection?Didn't American Airlines filed for bankruptcy?.... and they can afford ipads? lol
This is what worries me!Paper flight plans do not run out of battery and they are very unlikely to freeze on you.
FAA now approves it for use in ALL PHASES of flight, from the moment they turn power on in aircraft, to when they turn it off, on all the time.
I guess American can't force people to turn off their iPads now.
But your pilots are using them RIGHT NEXT TO THEW CONTROLS, how can my playing words with friends out here hurt anything?
Do the pilots have to turn the iPad off during takeoff, landing, and taxi? Should have thought that one thru FAA
The iPad was approved that way for American Airlines, at least. It doesn't apply to any carrier that hasn't gone through its own certification process.
According to the relevant AC, it looks like each carrier has to first spend six months testing out the devices in real life usage, plus they have to certify non-interference with the aircraft models involved... among other things like crew training and observation, and perhaps getting an STC for mounting gear.
Then they still have to carry backup paper for at least a while, just in case both iPads fail. One way around that requirement is to use two different types of tablets, e.g. one iPad, one Android. That hopefully insures that both will not fail for the same software glitch at the same time. (Unless it's a global WebKit bug!)