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Best Buy Dreams Up a $1499 42-Inch 'Apple HDTV' for Customer Feedback
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Is there anything, if made by Apple, people would not want or wouldn't be curious about?
I mean, considering how they usually reinvent anything they do, how they apply their best design and engineering practice and love to their products, would you really NOT be interested in Apple anything?
Would you say no to 42" Apple TV? Would you say no to Apple Toilet? I'm sure it'd the coolest toilet out there.
I mean, considering how they usually reinvent anything they do, how they apply their best design and engineering practice and love to their products, would you really NOT be interested in Apple anything?
Would you say no to 42" Apple TV? Would you say no to Apple Toilet? I'm sure it'd the coolest toilet out there.
I do agree that you can find decent tv's under $1500, but what are the lower priced ones specs? Are they LED? 120Hz or higher? 3D? SmartTV? Built in WiFi? I'm guessing not.
Nothing so far has proven to be evidence that it's the future. Most of the data out there actually suggests that it's failing fast. Just look to the trends at recent trade shows like NAB and CES. ESPN has suggested that their experiment in 3d might be over. And while it does provide Hollywood some revenue, that's only because the tickets are so damn expensive. Overall ticket sales have been trending downwards for 3d films. And then you have the poor adoption in the home theater market.
How is it useful? I've seen crappy 3d and 3d done "right.". While one was obviously better than the other, they're still both essentially moving planar objects through z space to present depth (something your brain has no problem doing with 2d images).
I still think this iteration of 3d is a fad. It will take something revolutionary like holographic imaging. But of course that would be a new medium altogether, so you couldn't even compare the two.
More advanced? Really? Samsung TVs can playback MKV files and all other video formats out of the box, there is no way an Apple TV (without a jailbreak) will ever be compatible with anything but iTunes.
iOS-based products are crippled by design, so they will never be more advanced than something that tries not to lock you into a walled garden.
Wow .... iphone price and feature all over again.....
first : they have a 27 inch display for 999$ why should this 42 inch tv cost less if it have the same features.... Why would someone pay 1K for a 27 inch screen... quality, thunderbolt, easy of use with MacBookAir and Pro...
second : BB is missing a point with the survey... Apple is going to put something "special" in the tv...
first : they have a 27 inch display for 999$ why should this 42 inch tv cost less if it have the same features.... Why would someone pay 1K for a 27 inch screen... quality, thunderbolt, easy of use with MacBookAir and Pro...
second : BB is missing a point with the survey... Apple is going to put something "special" in the tv...
How can anyone justify $1500 for a 42" television, no matter how smart it is? For that price, I can go out and build a top-of-the-line gaming computer AND get a nice 42" 120hz LED TV.
Those who are saying that there are comparably priced/featured sets out there must be the ones paying sticker price when they buy a car. MSRP =/= actual retail price.
Those who are saying that there are comparably priced/featured sets out there must be the ones paying sticker price when they buy a car. MSRP =/= actual retail price.
I'd put it at $999. If anyone noticed, they have better products at similar or better price points in the iOS Market. Even their 27" Cinema display is a better deal than what you'll get from others.
The problem with that is the $999 display is sigifigently better resoulituon then most TVs on the market. So unless Apple wants to market a retina TV at 2 foot viewing distance the price doesn't make sense. Computer displays and TVs have always been different in Price point because of resolution and operating distance.
Whatever the "special" is will have to be fairly darn special then because even the rumors of Apple TV have smartTV makers scrambling to get ahead in almost every type of input tech. Even MS is in the game a bit with looks at Kinect enhanced shows.
Your problem is is using terms like, good enough and in thinking in terms of the bottom of the barrel market, which Apple is not a part of. An Apple television set would not be meant for people looking for $600 or $700 tvs. No more than Apple computers are meant for people looking for $300 or $400 computers. Sure, you can get a functional computer for $300 but its not going to be the best designed computer with the best quality parts and features .same thing for tvs. A $600 tv will get the job done. But you dont get the best picture quality/contrast ratio, panel type, display engine, etc.
When thinking about the potential pricing of an Apple branded television, first think about the pricing of Apple branded computers. To me, $1,400 for a 40 tv seems reasonable. And for an Apple branded television, it seems downright cheap. I would expect an entry level 40 Apple television to be around $1,799 and go up for there. A 55 Apple television to be $2,100, etc. These prices seem more reasonable.
I don't care about that the TV, I just want ATV3 w/ Siri functionality and more power
That's probably what it will be. A viable alternate rumor sez the looming product is really a dongle-ized ATV, drawing all power from the HDMI port and using iOS devices as controllers (perhaps Siri-enabled). Consider: take out the internal 120v power supply, drop the IR & LED, and aggressively reduce power consumption & size, and you'll end up with something akin to an iPod Touch with no display nor battery - no bigger than a couple stacked quarters, which mounts directly on the HDMI plug. HDMI devices are obligated to supply at least 55mA, and most supply much more; how much does an active iPod Touch need minus the screen?
Apple could move a whole lot more dongle-sized ATV3s than big-panel displays, precisely because of all the "I already have a TV" retorts. $99 for a stick that brings Siri to your TV will sell a whole lot more - and move a lot more streaming rentals - than the machined-aluminum OLED panel we'd expect from Apple if they went there.
Can I have some Kool-Aid please. I always love the sugary fruit punch flavour myself!
Those prices you're listing are beyond reason. Many have provided links, I know i have. Best Buy Canada alone is already selling Sony, "internet" smart TVs, with 3d, 120hz, internet sharing and all the fancy stuff, for the 1100 price range at these sizes. with 42" tv's, in the 120hz range that are 'dumb' for as little as 600. Throwing an apple TV logo on a stock panel doesn't justify 30% increase in price, Especially when Apple often outsources who makes their panels anyways. They're often good panels, but they're far from the best. Apple will need to do better than a simple TV with intergrated APPLE TV product for the price that Best Buy is aiming at.
What I dont understand, Is why apple set 1499 in their survey. Any product specialist at Best Buy knows that TV's are generally much cheaper than that.
It's going to be one irritating product. How do they charge over $999 for $99 worth of features? Make the whole display.
It's so not needed. Not even slightly. No reason why they can't release an AppleTV 3 w/ A6, Siri, 1080p and actually satisfy what WE WANT.
It's so not needed. Not even slightly. No reason why they can't release an AppleTV 3 w/ A6, Siri, 1080p and actually satisfy what WE WANT.
My guess is that is that Best Buy and Apple are in kahoots on this one. Apple is moving into a totally new product category where there is not much pricing presidence. I take this is a trail ballon to survey price and customer response. IMO, there are will be two models of Apple televisions. A 32" or 36" at right around $950 and a larger 42" at the price mentioned.
Is this TV going to have touch input? Even then, no, I don't imagine standing in front of my TV to play it.
jap call me stupid but by the time i know what or how to say it to siri she already responses with "sry i didnt understand you" already drives me crazy on the iPhone, its nearly impossible for me to speak an sms with siri "do u want me to send the following: send text to xy" NO I DONT WANT YOU TO SENDTHE TEXT "send text" stupid woman
As awesome as that would be, how accurate will it be when a persons child (or other folks in general) are yelling (talking) when you are trying to do that?
As it is I have to repeat myself to Siri a lot if my child is yelling/talking...
They'll have an idea of how many to order from Apple.
You clearly don't understand how Apple works. Apple charges a price only the fanboys will be able to justify for the first generation.
The first Macintosh: $2500 was entry price. Today? $600.
The first MacBook Air: $3000 was the entry price. Today? $1000.
The first iPod: $500. Today? $80.
The first iPhone: $600. Today? $0.
The first Apple TV: $300. Today? $100.
Do you get my point?
(I'll admit these prices are all off the top of my head, but I think most of them are within 20% of the real price.)