So you annoy her for another week and then get arrested. Great plan.
I didn't say it was a GREAT idea. Just saying that Apple would tread lightly when it comes to one-off injecting code into phones. That was all.
So you annoy her for another week and then get arrested. Great plan.
It's a slippery slope though, what if I sold my iPhone on craigslist, then file that police report?
I am interested in knowing how changing the password was ineffective. I changed my Apple ID password and almost immediately, my iPhone popped up messages from iMessage, FaceTime, iCloud that it needed a password to continue. If the device (specifically iMessage) is saying it needs the password to continue, then how would any future messages still be delivered to said device? I'm confused. I'm wondering if she just didn't say it didn't work to force more out of Apple. If what she says is actually true then Apple has a serious problem on its hands...as many people have sold devices (myself among them) and forgot to take out de-activated SIM, the device was wiped prior...but. This whole situation is very interesting.I edited slightly to clarify that it was only the advice to tell her friends to stop sending her messages that she found unreasonable.
Changing her password was reasonable, but ineffective.
that's called a submitting a false claim, which can be a felony offense.
When things disappear from craigslist, it isn't actually "gone"... there are things called backups for exactly this reason.
The thing that really scares me is that apple proves that they have the ability to breach security and gain remote access; as long as the device has a internet connect? Its great that this lady got help and id expect the same thing, but think about apple being able to remotely connect to ur handheld devices and make something happen. Scary...
I am interested in knowing how changing the password was ineffective. I changed my Apple ID password and almost immediately, my iPhone popped up messages from iMessage, FaceTime, iCloud that it needed a password to continue. If the device (specifically iMessage) is saying it needs the password to continue, then how would any future messages still be delivered to said device? I'm confused. I'm wondering if she just didn't say it didn't work to force more out of Apple. If what she says is actually true then Apple has a serious problem on its hands...as many people have sold devices (myself among them) and forgot to take out de-activated SIM, the device was wiped prior...but. This whole situation is very interesting.
It should ask you to reconnect with an Apple ID and password if it detects a SIM card is replaced, removed or deactivated. Although it's true that if an iPod touch is stolen, the only solution is to remote wipe anyway.
Because the stolen phone isn't in your possession?
I'm not siding with apple here, but she didn't want to use find my iPhones wipe feature? That seems like that is completely on her. Also see couldn't have just changed her password, and then change it back either? It seems she wasn't that cooperative if I'm reading this correctly.
I'm sick and tired of all these crybabies blaming others for their mistakes. Customer K lost her phone...boo hoo. Deal with it. Call your friends. Tell them you lost your phone and that you aren't receiving their messages. Get a new phone. Don't always try to make someone else responsible for your mistakes. Apple didn't lose your phone...you did. Compensation from Apple? You must be joking.
okay i think i understand.
it would have been easier to just make iMessage a separate app imo. i had to turn off "send as SMS" because i send iM's to people in another country and if send as SMS is enabled, then i'll be charged $0.75 when the person is not available and it automatically sends as a text.
IMO, Apple really didn't think this one through.
so who do I call to make it stop??
my son's brand new iPhone 4s was stolen at school.... a long story on school policy and honor codes is in order, but right now his friend's texts, as well as those from my wife and me, are all going to his stolen phone... the thief even replied to one before he realized it was my son's via imessage...
so who do I call to make it stop??
my son's brand new iPhone 4s was stolen at school.... a long story on school policy and honor codes is in order, but right now his friend's texts, as well as those from my wife and me, are all going to his stolen phone... the thief even replied to one before he realized it was my son's via imessage... right now neither my wife nor I can text my son....
ten hours at the AT&T store as well as at the Apple "genius" bar has not stopped it....
any help much appreciated!
Peace,
Me
Should have compensated her with a new iPhone instead of iPod touch. Or if she had already bought a new one, refunded what she paid with an Apple Gift Card.
"Here's an iPod touch so you can receive iMessages again, but don't lose it! We don't want to go through all this again!"
Because unlike regular txt messages, iMessage is linked to the UDID of your phone, not not sim card. This is how it works even via wifi. The phone number or iTunes email address is used as an ID to send/receive iMessages. But there is a major design flaw. Apple uses to the sim card to verify the phone number for iMessage. But it only verifies the sim card upon initial iMessage activation. If the sim card is removed, deactivated, or replaced with a different sim, the Apple servers will still send iMessages to the phone via wifi. Or cellular data, if it has another valid sim card. Even one with a different number. This is because the iMessage phone number is linked on Apple's servers to the UDID of the phone, not the sim. This link on Apple's servers will remain until iMessage is manually deactivated in the phone's settings. Which is impossible if you lose your phone, or already sold it. Apple has known about this design flaw for over two months. I don't understand why Apple still has not fixed this major privacy issue.
I am interested in knowing how changing the password was ineffective. I changed my Apple ID password and almost immediately, my iPhone popped up messages from iMessage, FaceTime, iCloud that it needed a password to continue. If the device (specifically iMessage) is saying it needs the password to continue, then how would any future messages still be delivered to said device? I'm confused. I'm wondering if she just didn't say it didn't work to force more out of Apple. If what she says is actually true then Apple has a serious problem on its hands...as many people have sold devices (myself among them) and forgot to take out de-activated SIM, the device was wiped prior...but. This whole situation is very interesting.
Or is that too simple of an answer?
Have you tried simply NOT sending text messages to a phone you and your wife know is stolen? Or is that too simple of an answer?
I am interested in knowing how changing the password was ineffective. I changed my Apple ID password and almost immediately, my iPhone popped up messages from iMessage, FaceTime, iCloud that it needed a password to continue. If the device (specifically iMessage) is saying it needs the password to continue, then how would any future messages still be delivered to said device? I'm confused. I'm wondering if she just didn't say it didn't work to force more out of Apple. If what she says is actually true then Apple has a serious problem on its hands...as many people have sold devices (myself among them) and forgot to take out de-activated SIM, the device was wiped prior...but. This whole situation is very interesting.
Yes, I believe that is the way to stop this from happening if you sell the iPhone. The problem becomes more muddied when the iPhone is stolen. Then you can't physically turn off iMessages or remove the SIM. To prevent iMessage from popping up on a stolen iPhone, you need to remote wipe that phone and call AT&T to deactivate the SIM. Not sure how this works (or is a problem) with Verizon/Sprint, but I assume you call them to disable the ESN.
The Verge had a good write up on it a few days ago: http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/3/2766734/accidental-espionage-imessage-iphone-theft-issue