OS X Mountain Lion to Be True Mac App Store Exclusive

No surprises there really, big question is how much?

At nearly 3 times the price, no wonder no one was interested in getting the USB stick. Sigh. I don't want to redownload an OS every time I need to format.

I think people would have been more interested if it had been priced appropriately. I didn't take much work for me to find the proper dmg in the app store download and put it on a thumb drive myself. The issue was never that people didn't have broadband - it was that they wanted a backup of the OS installer they could restore from.

loki0wn said:

At nearly 3 times the price, no wonder no one was interested in getting the USB stick. Sigh. I don't want to redownload an OS every time I need to format.

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And you don't have to if you so choose. I have Lion on a thumbdrive in case I need to re-install.

loki0wn said:

At nearly 3 times the price, no wonder no one was interested in getting the USB stick. Sigh. I don't want to redownload an OS every time I need to format.

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You don't need to, once downloaded you could put the .dmg file on a thumb drive.

Bad Apple

This is a bad move by Apple. There are a lot of people who live out in rural areas where high speed internet access are not available. We can't download OSX. This is the end of the road for us. I upgraded my son's computer to OSX Lion because I could get it on the USB thumbdrive. I paid the extra ($69 total) to get it on the thumb drive. Downloading it is just not feasible. Apple is alienating many users this way.

I think most people found a way around it without paying for the Apple USB flash drive. I made my own for just a few quid. Lets hope I can easily do the same for ML. Restore over the internet is all well and good, but I like to have the USB option still.

CaptainSKA said:

I think people would have been more interested if it had been priced appropriately. I didn't take much work for me to find the proper dmg in the app store download and put it on a thumb drive myself. The issue was never that people didn't have broadband - it was that they wanted a backup of the OS installer they could restore from.

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Wrong. A lot of people out in rural areas do not have broadband of a speed sufficient to make downloading OSX feasible. The world is not yet interconnected at high speeds. It is attitudes like yours that creates the digital divide. Reality check, please.

I doubt it, plus there will always be a way to copy into USB Flash to install it from there.

Hum, with a 12 month update cycle like iOS, I would not be surprised if this and future updates are under $10.

pubwvj said:

This is a bad move by Apple. There are a lot of people who live out in rural areas where high speed internet access are not available. We can't download OSX. This is the end of the road for us. I upgraded my son's computer to OSX Lion because I could get it on the USB thumbdrive. I paid the extra ($69 total) to get it on the thumb drive. Downloading it is just not feasible. Apple is alienating many users this way.

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I think you could go to an Apple Store and purchase and they'd burn a disc or thumb drive for you...that was different than the regular Thumbdrive though.

idunno, I was lucky enough to have the bandwidth to download Lion

If all this update is giving us is iOS Apps, then if better not be $29.99. There needs to be quite a few new great features, like the Mirroring feature. From what was announced today I'd except this to be OSX 10.7.4 not 10.8.

Sucks for people who don't have fast internet access....

pubwvj said:

Apple is alienating many users this way.

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How "many" ? I'm willing to bet that the actual numbers are miniscule.

Question, should I upgrade to OSX Lion before going straight to this? I'm still using Snow Leopard and haven't really had any motivation/need to switch, but I do like the sounds of some of the features of Mountain Lion. Will skipping one cause any problems?

GuitarDTO said:

Question, should I upgrade to OSX Lion before going straight to this? I'm still using Snow Leopard and haven't really had any motivation/need to switch, but I do like the sounds of some of the features of Mountain Lion. Will skipping one cause any problems?

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I wouldn't bother. Snow Leopard has the App Store so just download ML from that once it's released.

You're better off sticking with Snow Leopard for now anyway given that Lion is a pile of <insert nasty word here>.

davidwarren said:

Hum, with a 12 month update cycle like iOS, I would not be surprised if this and future updates are under $10.

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I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to just go entirely free, as they did with iOS updates.

Why?

Because they want you to upgrade. If you hear Mountain Lion is available free on the Mac App Store, you're going to go and download it. While you're there, you might notice some other apps. Apple takes at least a 30% cut on anything you decide to buy while you're there.

Why else?

Because Apple has new features in the new OS. They'd like it if developers used the new features. Developers will only use the new features if most of their users upgrade to the new OS. New features = new developers = new customers = revenue to Apple all around. Charging for an OS update is a shot in the foot.

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pubwvj said:

This is a bad move by Apple. There are a lot of people who live out in rural areas where high speed internet access are not available. We can't download OSX. This is the end of the road for us. I upgraded my son's computer to OSX Lion because I could get it on the USB thumbdrive. I paid the extra ($69 total) to get it on the thumb drive. Downloading it is just not feasible. Apple is alienating many users this way.

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If you have a Mac laptop, just go somewhere with Internet access (Starbucks, a fast food restaurant, etc.), download it, and make a DVD or thumb drive backup.

davidwarren said:

Hum, with a 12 month update cycle like iOS, I would not be surprised if this and future updates are under $10.

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And perhaps not that large of a file to download, which will be good for those without major broadband speeds.

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pubwvj said:

This is a bad move by Apple. There are a lot of people who live out in rural areas where high speed internet access are not available.

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That's not an Apple issue. That's an ISP issue. Either because yours doesn't offer broadband or because the 'local' companies don't see the need to go out into the rural areas. Perhaps a kick in the pants to your local or state government will get a kick for the ISPs to rethink that notion

pubwvj said:

This is a bad move by Apple. There are a lot of people who live out in rural areas where high speed internet access are not available. We can't download OSX. This is the end of the road for us. I upgraded my son's computer to OSX Lion because I could get it on the USB thumbdrive. I paid the extra ($69 total) to get it on the thumb drive. Downloading it is just not feasible. Apple is alienating many users this way.

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Apple doesn't give a **** about the .1% of people like you who don't have real internet. And they shouldn't. Move.

Stella said:

Sucks for people who don't have fast internet access....

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-also

Data limits?

I may be a cynical hater but...

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Its not apples fault you dont get fast internet. You are in a very small minority now so doesnt make business sense. Get over it and stop crying. I suppose you are the ones who will also cry when they drop the superdrive on the macbook pro.

davidwarren said:

Hum, with a 12 month update cycle like iOS, I would not be surprised if this and future updates are under $10.

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maybe they will even make them free if they are doing yearly. Technically they could use the same system they do for ipad, iphone and ipod touch. You are basically paying for all future updates when you purchase your iDevice or mac.

pubwvj said:

This is a bad move by Apple. There are a lot of people who live out in rural areas where high speed internet access are not available. We can't download OSX. This is the end of the road for us. I upgraded my son's computer to OSX Lion because I could get it on the USB thumbdrive. I paid the extra ($69 total) to get it on the thumb drive. Downloading it is just not feasible. Apple is alienating many users this way.

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Obviously they aren't alienating that many users, or they'd continue to offer it. I'm not saying this won't alienate some. But the number is clearly very small.