I don't think Apple has anything to do with it. If that were the case then none of the carriers would give their customers an unlock. I'm with O2 here in the UK and I just have to fill out an online form requesting them to unlock my phone and it's unlocked within 2 weeks. They don't even require me to finish my contract first.
If Apple, wanted to, they could have sold all phones unlocked. At the end of the day, there was an agreement stating they will not unlock the phones under certain circumstances. This is fine and dandy, and within their rights. I am just saying that people give the carriers WAYYYY too much flack.
You don't think that AT&T pushed that requirement onto Apple? I think you don't give the carriers enough flack. If the carriers wanted to, the could have never asked Apple to lock the phones. Locking was not Apple's idea, I guarantee that. It was a stupid industry practice that started long before Apple started making phones.
I do. And Apple agreed to it. Certainly this is backed by the carriers. But they are not the only ones to blame here, as most people seem to be doing...
Sure, Apple could have pushed the issue, but I'm guessing they had bigger issues to negotiate. Blame Apple if you like, but the source of the issue is the carrier, so I blame them.
Listen, my friend. I am not sure why you are pushing the fact that I blame Apple. Frankly, I blame both. It takes two to agree to these terms. As far as I am concerned, they are equally to blame. "We had other things to worry about" isn't a very valid excuse in my book. Hell, maybe the carriers have others things to worry about as well... If you want to go on believing Apple can do no evil, far be it from me to stop you.
First, I'm not your friend. Secondly, I don't believe Apple can do no evil. So turn your finger back at yourself if your looking at people making assumptions.
I'm not saying Apple couldn't have attempted to fix the situation, but why are you looking at Apple when every other phone manufacturer has agreed to lock their devices as well?
First, I'm not your friend. Secondly, I don't believe Apple can do no evil. So turn your finger back at yourself if your looking at people making assumptions.
I worked in the wireless industry for many years so I have an intimate knowledge of the inner workings. I'm not saying Apple couldn't have attempted to fix the situation, but why are you looking at Apple when every other phone manufacturer has agreed to lock their devices as well?
Like I said, I blame those that initiated this entire mess.
If that was the case then they would allow you to unlock once you have fulfilled your contract and paid back the subsidy discount.
That would make sense if all subsidies were equal. Apple demands and gets higher subsidies than Android manufacturers. AT&T should be able to get something in return, right?
After 24 months AT&T has made $2,195.76 from you...
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To clarify, that is how much gross income they made from you. It is not their net income which is what the business model would be based upon. They need to pay their employees, leases, capital expenses, etc first. Then any remaining profit could be used in the calculation to determine if they cover the subsidy in 24 months or not.
To clarify, that is how much gross income they made from you. It is not their net income which is what the business model would be based upon. They need to pay their employees, leases, capital expenses, etc first. Then any remaining profit could be used in the calculation to determine if they cover the subsidy in 24 months or not.
Chupa Chupa said:Everyone here using an ATT iPhone should email Tim Cook and ask to have there iPhone unlocked. Then get your friends and family to do same. Maybe a swarm of emails will get Apple to pressure ATT to unlock. After all the Sprint and VZW phones are unlocked for int'l use so no reason why ATTs should be unlocked if your acct is in good standing.
All of my off contract AT&T phones have been unlocked by AT&T without much effort on my part. Is this still a thing?
You revived a thread from 2012 for that question?All of my off contract AT&T phones have been unlocked by AT&T without much effort on my part. Is this still a thing?