More Claims of Taller, Thinner Next-Generation iPhone with 4-Inch Screen and New Dock Connector

dmelgar said:

The is NO WAY Apple will change the aspect ratio. Rumor is false.

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Except if you look at iLounge's history they've been the most accurate besides John Gruber. Even he slyly mentioned that this is true.

Keep in mind that iLounge was also right about the 3rd gen. iPad. They were the first source to say it would be Retina and be slightly thicker which turned out to be true.

There's no way Apple will design a phone that looks like that on the back.

Also--for anyone saying they'll never change the screen resolution, I say pshaw!! My iPad apps were all retina ready within days of launch. The same will happen with iPhone.

I'd rather not have a tall and narrow screen. Sure, makes reading it portrait mode fine but is not useful for landscape mode except for maybe watching videos.

Honestly, I'm glad they kept the 4:3 aspect on the iPad. I dislike that screens have more of a widescreen format today. Great for watching movies, sucks for everything else (my roommie is jealous of my old screen flat panel before they made all flat panels in the more squished format. He finally bought two and they are 25" panels I think and my 19" with it's better aspect ratio is way more useful.

imgonephishin said:

Exactly this.

Apple has 600K+ apps designed for 3:2. They've railed about Android fragmentation. There's no way in hell that they're changing the aspect ratio now. Larger screen? I'll buy that. But they'll be expanding it in both directions. In the mockups there's still the standard bevel on the left and right sides of the screens. You really think they'll expand upwards before using all of that space? My prediction is a 4" screen, same 960x640 resolution, screen goes right up to the side edges, slightly taller and wider device.

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If the screen goes to the edge there's no reason to make it taller or wider.
By simply moving the earpiece and the home button slightly, the 4S could accomodate a 4" screen as-is.
No dimension changes whatsoever.

Menel said:

You mean like iPad vs. Mac vs. iPhone device specific apps now?

No, they have nothing up their sleeves that supports such.

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I mean like iPad, Retina iPad, iPhone/iPod 3:2, Retina iPhone/iPod 3:2... If they add another (Retina iPhone 16:9) they are going to have to start doing something about the app file sizes ballooning out of control. It's already happening with Retina iPad files in universal apps. If they change the aspect ratio on the phone it will be in ALL iOS apps.

What would be the purpose in changing the dock connector?

JForestZ34 said:

I can't wait to see all the posts from people saying that this is ugly and blah blah blah. Bit once it comes out and they get their hands on it the whole attitude will change.

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It's hideous. The 4 was a departure, but it had some degree of consistency. This looks like it was glued together from bits of other phones.

Ohh God! I hope they do not make it taller. It is already tall! Thinner is OK. Taller is NOT OK.

Ughh! I just threw up in my mouth a litttle ....

Holy crap that looks horrible! If that is what is actually released I'll be keeping my Galaxy Note.

Won't happen.

Definitely not the next iPhone.

Apple likes seemless design, that looks terrible.

They will have the backing one style or the other, but not both and I highly doubt they will change the aspect ratio. If the iphone screen gets bigger, the phone will be wider, that's all there is to it.

Can't believe people are seriously comparing this mockup to the leaked iPhone 4 shots. Take an iPhone 4 case, extend it a bit, tack on metallic strip at the back. Does anyone really believe this is what Ive and co have been doing for the last few years?? It's… gosh, I'm lost for words… it's just bad, and it's not going to happen.

the funny thing about this threads, is the fact that "everyone" hates this mockups and this new phone entire concept. but if apple actually built on of these, those hypocrites will worship the device!

cheers

Absolutely no point in increasing the screen in only one direction unless iOS6 has some balls to the wall amazing UI that makes this necessary.

Fuggo and hopefully BS.

I doubt Apple will change the aspect ration, but I guess it could happen.

Out of curiosity, some questions:

-How big a screen do you guys want? I've seen people say they want 4", 4.5" and I think I saw some people say they wanted a 5" screen?

-Bonus Question: why do you want that size screen? More screen real estate or just something like bragging rights ("My screen's bigger than yours!")

-How thin do you want it (and why)? Or should I rephrase it: if an iPhone/iPad had LTE advanced, 10+ hour battery life, 1 GB of RAM, 128 GB storage, would you rather have an 8mm device or 1mm device? Just curious why.

I think some posters here have a serious issue being able to discern between a quickie fantasy mock up and an actual design.

Personally I hope the 4" spec mentioned is not true. It's just too big for a mainstream phone - I'm well aware others feel differently, but I suspect they are in a niche as most Android phone buyers are which is one reason why Android has strong marketshare. (That is not pejorative, but only to say there is an Android model to suit most everyone's need, none are huge sellers, but Android phones are in the sales aggregate. Apple OTOH aims dead center with the iPhone.) I happen to be in the dead center demo. If a 4"+ screen was important to me (and many, many other consumers) I'd/we'd buy an Android.

One thing another poster mentioned was keeping the phone at the same thickness to add battery. This would be a total disaster IMHO unless it did not add weight to the phone, i.e., Apple found a way to reduce the weight of other components or the case without sacrificing utility. Battery life is important, but weight is everything b/c no one wants a heavy phone and iPhone battery life isn't that bad -- certainly better than 99% of Android phones.

MacBookPro13";14811154 said:

Keep the glass back, it looks and feels classy.

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And is far, far too easily broken.

I doubt any of this is true. I would HATE if any of this were to happen.

Elongated screen: Hell no. Fragmentation, apps would look terrible sideways, games would have to be completely redesigned, and reason number one HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO ACCESS NOTIFICATION CENTER WITH ONE HAND. The average thumb wouldn't be long enough to reach.

Flat back: No. I am over the flat back on the 4/4s. I prefer some sort of curve even if it's just on the edges (like the iPad).

Metal Strip: Ok I would prefer a metal back (liquidmetal), but a strip? At least in the mockup it looks hideous, but I'm sure Apple could make it look better. I know Apple may not be able to make the entire back metal for reception purposes, but we'll see

Thinner: Honestly, I would prefer a bigger battery to thinner

new dock connecter: oh great!! So every dock connector that people have been collecting for over a decade have suddenly become worthless! Why? To make the hole slightly smaller... so what? if anything it's better wider because it gives more support.

lame, lame, lame, LAME!

Longer might work, but wider would be horrible to hold. Just look at some the the Android phones. They aren't especially nice to use.

If devs have to re-work the apps to support a bigger display, then thats what they have to do. Let's be real...Apple is not going to hold off on advancements in technology, or changing trends because they don't want to disrupt the current apps. Will it be a PIA for the developers??...For sure. But it's bound to happen at some point...Why not now? I think now is actually better then later. It's no different then retina, iPad, & mac.

And these mocks are terrible. I have faith that Ive and apple will give us a beautiful device...They know they have to hit a grand slam this time. And I think they are ready for it.

imgonephishin said:

Exactly this.

Apple has 600K+ apps designed for 3:2. They've railed about Android fragmentation. There's no way in hell that they're changing the aspect ratio now. Larger screen? I'll buy that. But they'll be expanding it in both directions. In the mockups there's still the standard bevel on the left and right sides of the screens. You really think they'll expand upwards before using all of that space? My prediction is a 4" screen, same 960x640 resolution, screen goes right up to the side edges, slightly taller and wider device.

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My money is on that as well...

I don't think they are particularly adverse to changing the resolution to keep the retina tag though, as existing apps could always be run in a window with a border.

DotCom2 said:

What would be the purpose in changing the dock connector?

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To make more room for other stuff. that 30 pin connector takes up a lot of space.

Bigger is NOT better

And a new dock connector? WTF. I have a charging cord in my car, in my travel bag, at work, at home. Replacing them all is not what I want to do.

lifeguard90 said:

HEY! Well look at that, what a surprise

More ios iphone postings, never woulda guessed that. ....


does anyone give a rip about mac news? Seriously , the April 4th or whatever post for antiglare imac is long in the tooth. And the mbp / air change has been rattling since Feb 2011. Ridiculous

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Go buy a Dell or HP POS then.

Wow, that's probably the first good looking mock up I've seen. Finally someone's predicting a new iPhone that isn't ass ugly. I don't want a curved back iPhone, and I really don't need a complete redesign.

I do agree though that I'd prefer a bigger battery to a thinner phone. The 4S isn't all that thick to begin with. More battery life FTW.

This is also the most realistic prediction I've seen yet. But personally I'd like to see them leave the screen alone. I don't need a bigger phone.

People....reeeeeelax. First of all this is a rumor. A ruuuuuumor! Second of all, that mock up is a photoshop job by some internet blogger....NOT by Apple. So stop freaking out. You think some schmo on the internet is gonna out design Apple using photoshop? Puh-lease. Chill the F out.

As for the iphone 5 rumors...i am all for a bigger screen, better battery life and LTE. I am holding off until it is announced. Rumors are fun...but they are just that, rumors.

Come back in June or October when its officially announced and lets talk.