Like it or not Data is a commodity. As long as the necessity grows and people become more dependent on it, someone's going to make as much money off it. I have no problems with companies forcing those who use 5+gb to pay for their usage.
I don't understand the contention that buying at the unsubsidized rate is a workable solution here. If you buy the phone unsubsidized, you still have to pay the same plan rates that pay the carrier back (and then some) for the subsidy, so... a ~$500 premium just to keep your unlimited plan? How does that constitute the best deal for even the top data users?
Is there something wrong with my math?
As soon as AT&T does this... hello Sprint!
when i hear CEOs and companies talk like this all i here is "bla bla bla take your money bla bla and no, we won't upgrade our network enough to handle increased bandwidth"
The other important thing to note with carriers like this is that it is not about the bandwidth but simply the money. For example, AT&T will charge you extra if you go over the amount of data that you get in a a month. However, if you are on the more expensive 3GB plan you get an extra 1GB of data for 10 dollars. If you are on the 300MB plan your extra 10 dollars gets you 300mb of data if you go over. You are paying 10 dollars either way, shouldn't the amount of data being given be equal since more AT&T is running out of bandwidth? No because they don't care about bandwidth, just money. These carriers refuse to put enough money into infrastructure and then blame the consumer if we use the network too much. LOL. The best thing i ever heard was from att, they had a graph showing how over the years there have been more smartphones on the market and thus their networks have had an increased work load. to me all they said was "we have more phones now but only did marginal improvements so we can complain later how we can't handle it". It would be like the government saying that we can't buy any more cars because we are out of road space.
How much data are you people using? I have never been over 1.5GB ever in the history of owning phones, I've had every iPhone FYI. I mean, to pay $899 for a phone that you can get for $399 just so you can have unlimited data seems stupid to me, unless of course you are using stupid amounts of it... Are you guys tethering full time to your phones and don't have broadband at home? I mean, I know it's fun to complain about things but seems to me that most are complaining about something that will never affect them in the first place/
I think the lesson here is that companies should never advertise anything as unlimited. These agreements almost always have some kind of "excessive usage" clause, and it's just not possible for every customer to take full advantage of it when the backend resources are finite.
This depends on whether Verizon letting customers upgrade to Unlimited 4G data plan if the new iPhone were to bought outright.
Why? Is the residual value of a subsidized phone less? Sure has never been for me. I sell my old iPhone every year, when i get the new one within a month of launch, for $400 or so.
On 3G? 1-5GBHow much data are you people using? I have never been over 1.5GB ever in the history of owning phones, I've had every iPhone FYI. I mean, to pay $899 for a phone that you can get for $399 just so you can have unlimited data seems stupid to me, unless of course you are using stupid amounts of it... Are you guys tethering full time to your phones and don't have broadband at home? I mean, I know it's fun to complain about things but seems to me that most are complaining about something that will never affect them in the first place/
I feel like most of these people are just bitching to bitch.. These companies don't owe you a single thing. You talk about unlimited data like its your right and if you can't have it anymore then everyone can go to hell. You guys don't know anything about much time and money goes into building the technology you use and need everyday. Every time I read that a a cell company has changed it plans and people start going crazy, it reminds of this clip from Conan with Louis CK. Watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk
I feel like most of these people are just bitching to bitch.. These companies don't owe you a single thing. You talk about unlimited data like its your right and if you can't have it anymore then everyone can go to hell. You guys don't know anything about much time and money goes into building the technology you use and need everyday. Every time I read that a a cell company has changed it plans and people start going crazy, it reminds of this clip from Conan with Louis CK. Watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk
You need to quit pulling info from where your sitting. Do some research on how much these carriers spend on infrastructure. Its not that they don't spend, its that the cant physically do it fast enough.
And you analogy totally does not fit. There is NOT enough spectrum to run multiple networks (LTE, 3G, etc) at he same time and you cant take one down without completing theq other AND transitioning customers.
Enough of the back seat telecom CEOs on this board. They know what they are doing.
Haha! Thanks! Loved it!
Every bit of it is true. People ignore that our world today is so amazing, and many things kids feel entitled to didn't exist a very short time ago.
when i hear CEOs and companies talk like this all i here is "bla bla bla take your money bla bla and no, we won't upgrade our network enough to handle increased bandwidth"
That is exactly what The AT&T CEO said last week and folks ripped him for it. AT&T made a mistake in the initial unlimited offering. The did not anticipate the iPhone success and the bandwidth needed. A fully understandable and honest statement from the CEO.