When exactly is the Drobo thunderbolt device going to be shipping? I couldn't find anywhere an actual date when it will be available... so to compare an announced yet unavailable drobo device to another company that also doesn't have a thunderbolt device doesn't make sense.
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Drobo Releases Pricing for Thunderbolt Storage Devices, Preorders Start Monday
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When exactly is the Drobo thunderbolt device going to be shipping? I couldn't find anywhere an actual date when it will be available... so to compare an announced yet unavailable drobo device to another company that also doesn't have a thunderbolt device doesn't make sense.
You are missing the point. People keep commenting on the new TB Drobo AS IF IT IS A NAS. As you posted, it is not. The posts you replied to were attempting to make this point by stating that the Synology products everyone is pimping don't have TB interfaces.
Ah thanks for that. In future I won't be so lazy and read the thread before responding! Lol
Apologies.
Well, if your intention was to defend Drobo products, at least for me, your points made the case against Drobo.
1st - Of course Kelby has a UPS.
2nd - You're blaming Tampa electrical? Absurd.
Must stop here, cuz this is just silly.
1st - Of course Kelby has a UPS.
2nd - You're blaming Tampa electrical? Absurd.
Must stop here, cuz this is just silly.
Me because I have it but I do not see the point in it. If it made sense I would buy it.
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Then don't buy it. No one cares if you don't spend your money on it. When you make these declarative statements who are you trying to impress? No one here cares. This is the Internet...
I have both. A Drobo S and a Synology 1512+. The Drobo S operates as the file or media server (iTunes library and Aperture Vaults) stored here and connected via FW800 to a Mac Mini. The Drobo S does a daily backup to the Synology which naturally sits on my network. The Synology is an exact duplicate of the Drobo S.
I agree with your comment about Synology, they do appear to be 'better' on the whole than Drobo - but they have had their own QC issues.
As to the next comment about being slow, not with the current (USB3/eSATA) generation. My current gen Drobo S is my primary DLNA/media server storage and it works perfectly fine in that capacity.
You are misinterpreting what I said. He is a smart professional, and has at least 2 other copies of his critical data. He can take the drives from the Drobo, put them in another device (not just another Drobo, but ANY device) and restore his backup to them. Nothing is 'hostage' unless you are practicing poor backup procedures.
The common thread that will give me serious pause the next time I need to purchase one is the poor customer service. I see lots of glowing comments about Synology's customer relations and almost nothing good about Drobo's.
Thunderbolt is pretty funny. I giggle in delight and sometimes laugh out loud when I see how quickly I can get my work done.
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I am not one to like or defend Drobo, but it's a DAS so comparing it to a NAS is a pointless exercise since they serve very different purposes. It remains to be seen though what kind of speeds the Drobo can reach and whether they match the performance of the Pegasus or even the Lacie TB.
True, the Drobo has an interesting system, but it also has its own proprietary RAID, which when it goes wrong, goes very wrong.
Design product and make in China for pennies.
Charge US customers 1000000x more than what its worth after R&D, production, and administrative costs. Pay CEO millions of dollars.
Yup. The American way!
Charge US customers 1000000x more than what its worth after R&D, production, and administrative costs. Pay CEO millions of dollars.
Yup. The American way!
I actually have the Drobo S with USB 3 and esata. I intend to get the new Caldigit Card which will give me theoretical transfers of 6G per second. I'm happy with that. Thunderbolt is proving to be the biggest series of rip offs in premium pricing from cords to drives. How do you expect to encourage take up of a technology this way?
Consumers note that initial pricing of the Thunderbolt units are twice what they're willing to pay...
I do wonder what their "initial demand" projections were...
I believe they thought they would sell one, turns out someone ordered a spare
thunderbolt port connector isn't cheap in the first place. the cable itself cost more than $50 and that is also the case for 3rd party cable. just look at china online store, most of them is more expensive than what apple is selling.
OK, I see what you're suggesting now (thanks for clarifying), but...the Drobo from which he pulled the drives is still a "brick". Why would Scott or any intelligent human being continue to invest in a product line that has died on them 4X?
Yes, Drobo customer service sucks, but so does their failure rate. That's a particularly bad combo.
Yes, Drobo customer service sucks, but so does their failure rate. That's a particularly bad combo.
I can understand the appeal of the Drobo Mini. A videographer working with 10 bit HD footage that's on the road a lot, etc. I love that it has USB3 in addition to Tb. Clearly, everyone's needs vary as do their definitions of "portable". I personally do not have a need for a "portable" RAID at 3 lbs that requires AC. But hey, it's a lot more "portable" than a Pegasus! I would be far more inclined toward the upcoming G-DRIVE mini USB 3.0 & FW. Compared to the Drobo Mini, it's a lot smaller and lighter(!) and is **bus powered**. For a 750GB unit, it's gonna be $170. Buy a second one for BU.
Funniest part? That little $170 G-DRIVE mini USB 3.0 will be 3x faster than my Drobo gen 2 "FW800" units.
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I agree. Also, as it's replacing firewire as the non-ethernet alternative (you can forget USB at this point), it's disgusting how much people are charging when the Thunderbolt cables themselves contain an Oxford Semiconductor chip in the connector. The very same company who make the SATA to firewire chips for Firewire enclosures and no doubt have quite a hand in making the sata to thunderbolt chips too.
There's no reason why a case that simply consists of multiple SATA bays, a power supply (or socket for an external one) and a few chips and connection ports can justify such a high price.
You can buy 2 x 3Tb 7200rpm drives with 64Mb caches and a D-Link Sharecentre NAS for under £300. The Drobo offerings are excessively expensive, as were their older firewire based ones.
Everyday Joe doesn't watch how long his backup takes. Heck, computer geek me doesn't. USB 2 is just fine. I get it if you're doing video editing for a living you need stuff like TB, but if you're not doing something disk-intensive for a living, USB 2 should be fine.
I don't know when I've ever wanted my spaghetti of USB devices running off of one USB 2.0 port on my Macbook Pro to be any faster. They are fine. Over the next few years, everything will just be USB 3 by default, and that's great, we'll have a lot more headroom, but anyone who isn't a professional or extreme user and actively seeks out USB 3 is wasting their time.
Fill that USB disk of yours and it will barely give you 15 MB/s read speed. By this number anything you do will be disk intensive.
I move 10's or 100's of GB through my years old $10 USB 2 hub, and it's fine. If I'm going to do a big transfer, I just let it rip in the background, and it finishes eventually. I am a much heavier disk user than a typical user.
Just saying: My 2010 MBP copies large files from one USB drive to another at precisely 34 MB per second. It doesn't matter one bit how full the disks are. And it reads at 34 MB per second from ony USB port, while simultanesouly writing to the other port at 34 MB per second.