You need to explain why if Google wins the bid it has to pay nothing to Apple/Microsoft/etc
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Apple and Google Lead Separate Groups in Bidding for Kodak Patents
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You need to explain why if Google wins the bid it has to pay nothing to Apple/Microsoft/etc
It is a two way street. It will smell of anti trust as well with the power houses on the other side pretty anti Android and the biggest one sue happy against Android with crapents.
I think you'll find that it's Google who want to destroy and down-grade their rivals, having teamed with Samsung, HTC et al - THEIR partners! Apple, on the other hand, have intrinsically teamed with a rival. ie. They're playing fair.
The main gist being that you might want to read the article properly before you choose to make statements like that again.
Nothing you mentioned has a patent because none of them are patentable. Nothing like that is patented these days either. However, you can patent specific methods and processes for doing something. And yes there is a patent dating back to the late 1800's for steering wheels because it states a particular method for using a steering wheel to do something in a unique way... in that case it was related to a new thing at the time called automobiles.
This is the same thing Apple and Microsoft do with their OS patents and Google does with their search patents.
There are also things called trademarks which prevent others from KIRFing and profiting off of the look and feel of your designs. That's a whole different area than patents though.
I thought one of the complaints was copying Apples "slide to unlock"? Wouldn't that be similar to the tab on the top of a aluminum can to open it?
Something tells me the cash will be used to meet the financial obligations of a bankrupt company.
Or like TetraPak. Which is patented. Or like a dog food can in which the entire lid can be removed with a ring pull. Which is patented. Or a wind-up radio...
Just because something seems obvious now does not mean that the person who had the initial brainwave and worked hard to make it a reality shouldn't reap the spoils for as long as the patent system allows. These are great ideas and they aren't free!
Actually Kodak is still building and selling printers. I bought one and so far so good. The wi-fi is stable and works well. Print quality is pretty good and the ink is pretty cheap.
Kodak scientists and engineers only pretty much invented digital photography and much of the digital image sensor technology.
Weird is that they didn't capitalize on their digital age inventions, so much so that people like you are clueless about their inventions.
Spoken like a true socialist. This week folks from all over the world are going to compete in sports for discs of gold, silver and bronze, and the associated "win" and bragging rights. There will be losers. They will have enjoyed the sportsmanship, and comraderie, but not the discs or the media attention or the many commercial benefits.
The reason there is bidding is to maximize profits to the patent owner, Kodak. The reason why bidding is done by the buyers rather than collusion as you suggest has nothing to do with whether collusion is legal. One side wins and the other loses. Patents are weapons of war. Tech companies are at war.
That's why not every device has every capability. There are factions and feifdoms. Some more dominant in some market niches and some more dominant in others.
So calm down.
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Wanna have a real impact on lawsuits? Grossly lower the cost of bringing an action by eliminating 90% of litigation through pre-trial rulings on sub-issues and motions in limine on an informal or less formal basis. Leave the "trial" for the nut of the issue so it costs less and implies the outcome in more certain terms. Less for the lawyers and more for the victims wouldn't be all bad either. Lawyer contingent fees range from 20%-33%-40% of someone else's damages for a few months of paperwork!
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My thoughts are that Apple's and Microsoft's coffers are bigger than anybody's on the other side. It just depends on how much they are willing to spend for these patents.
They kinda invented digital photography. You wouldn't know it since they were the last one on the bandwagon because of their huge investment in the photo film business, but they did in fact do the early work on digital photography and have been suing others for quite some time with those patents.
I don't see how it could have anti-trust implications. Microsoft and Apple bidding together is no different. Patent pools make a lot of sense for protecting your interests.
They kinda invented digital photography. You wouldn't know it since they were the last one on the bandwagon because of their huge investment in the photo film business, but they did in fact do the early work on digital photography and have been suing others for quite some time with those patents.
I don't see how it could have anti-trust implications. Microsoft and Apple bidding together is no different. Patent pools make a lot of sense for protecting your interests.
Kodak invented the Digital Camera
Kodak actually was the for runner in digital camera tech and was one of if not the first company to invent digital photography. Being from Rochester NY the even is all over the news the past year or so. Most of the issues are due to mismanagement from the top executives.
Kodak actually was the for runner in digital camera tech and was one of if not the first company to invent digital photography. Being from Rochester NY the even is all over the news the past year or so. Most of the issues are due to mismanagement from the top executives.
You have to be careful there. The first modern era automobile had 3 wheels. Also, it didn't have a steering wheel but a lever. And the Automobile inventions itself was patented. Numerous times - since the 17th cetury.
1/ I was talking about a one-off given the circumstances. I'm no socialist.
2/ I offer a gentle, tongue-in-cheek suggestion and you respond with a diatribe, mainly comprised of the kind of obviousness a three year old could type, and you close it off by telling ME to calm down!! Haha, classic!! If you can find your way down off your high horse why not think about opening your door and you know... getting out more..?
They did! Tons, massive lawsuits over stuff like who invented the telephone in the 1870's , or later the FM radio or the electronic computer. Didn't stop consumers from buying loads of phones and radios and PCs.
No?
Fair point, I guess. I'm been outside and it's not all its cracked up to be. Kudos.
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?????? Read the article, how could apple be against microsoft if they co own the patents???
A quick wiki search and you will see ALL of the items you list have been patented. Once you have a patent you can rent your idea to others. Look up pop top cans. It's amazing how many styles have been tried.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_can#section_6
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Pop tops are patented so yes they are similar