For Those Buying the iPhone 5 and Grandfathered Unlimited Data

ml.sail1 said:

But then again, on the other side of the coin you have FORTY times more customers paying for their service

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Do you even bother to look up stats before you try to mock someone and fail hard at it? US population is around 314 million according to wiki. UK is over 62 million. If you can do math, which i really doubt you can, that means the US has only 5 times as many people as the UK.

So i get FORTY times the space to use my phone and it's being paid for by only FIVE times as many people and I only pay TWO times as much so that makes my deal FOUR times better than the crap they serve up in the UK.

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ml.sail1 said:

I believe I was supporting your views... I was disagreeing with the person who said comparing the US to EU was an unfair comparison, while supporting that the same market can be reached here in the States.

In other words, he was saying that US is 40 times larger and of course we as American should be "happy" that we are not paying 40 times the price that the British, Norwegians, or Swedes are paying. I was arguing that while there is definitely a larger area for coverage, it is backed by the much larger customer base (once again using the number 40 times as many PAYING customers) who provide income for the companies to expand their network.

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40 times larger space but only 5 times larger customer base. Looks like the US gets the MUCH better deal! Thanks for proving my point while trying to mock me instead!!

Why not go to Sprint or Tmo for unlimited?

Also, that 'unlmited' plan is capped/throttled so you aren't TRULY getting unlimited. It's like Willy Wonka giving you a life time supply of chocolate...the first 3 years you get candybars and the rest of your life you just get Hershey kisses.

linkgx1 said:

Why not go to Sprint or Tmo for unlimited?

Also, that 'unlmited' plan is capped/throttled so you aren't TRULY getting unlimited. It's like Willy Wonka giving you a life time supply of chocolate...the first 3 years you get candybars and the rest of your life you just get Hershey kisses.

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ATT is, Verizon isn't.

andross77 said:

Do you even bother to look up stats before you try to mock someone and fail hard at it? US population is around 314 million according to wiki. UK is over 62 million. If you can do math, which i really doubt you can, that means the US has only 5 times as many people as the UK.

So i get FORTY times the space to use my phone and it's being paid for by only FIVE times as many people and I only pay TWO times as much so that makes my deal FOUR times better than the crap they serve up in the UK.

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40 times larger space but only 5 times larger customer base. Looks like the US gets the MUCH better deal! Thanks for proving my point while trying to mock me instead!!

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I was mistaken, I am sorry. But my point is still valid to an extent, look up the revenue of these companies- AT&T made over $125 Billion in 2011, while a carrier such as O2 which made almost $5 Billion in 2010 (yes, I accounted for the exchange rate b/w Pounds and Dollars).

So yes, though admittedly it is not 40 times more, American companies are making much, much more money than their British counterparts.

linkgx1 said:

Why not go to Sprint or Tmo for unlimited?

Also, that 'unlmited' plan is capped/throttled so you aren't TRULY getting unlimited. It's like Willy Wonka giving you a life time supply of chocolate...the first 3 years you get candybars and the rest of your life you just get Hershey kisses.

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Their service sucks where I need it or I would.

Geckotek said:

Their service sucks where I need it or I would.

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*rubs chin*

You do have a point. I canceled both T-Mobile and Sprint. Sprint had coverage, but a terrible connection.

Meh, oppurtunity cost. I knew there would be limits going to AT&T, but in trade I have an excellent network. Plus they give me free wifi at some public places (wish they would ramp it up, however).


People that are offering unlimited have no customers and virtually no network. Unlimited data is just too good to be true these days.

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ml.sail1 said:

I was mistaken, I am sorry. But my point is still valid to an extent, look up the revenue of these companies- AT&T made over $125 Billion in 2011, while a carrier such as O2 which made almost $5 Billion in 2010 (yes, I accounted for the exchange rate b/w Pounds and Dollars).

So yes, though admittedly it is not 40 times more, American companies are making much, much more money than their British counterparts.

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That's just revenue. What's the profit?

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andross77 said:

ATT is, Verizon isn't.

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****, didn't know that . Wish I woulda gotten with VZW a while make.

linkgx1 said:

That's just revenue. What's the profit?

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I only listed the revenue as I could not find the Net Profit for any of the british carriers.

ml.sail1 said:

I was mistaken, I am sorry. But my point is still valid to an extent, look up the revenue of these companies- AT&T made over $125 Billion in 2011, while a carrier such as O2 which made almost $5 Billion in 2010 (yes, I accounted for the exchange rate b/w Pounds and Dollars).

So yes, though admittedly it is not 40 times more, American companies are making much, much more money than their British counterparts.

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Who cares if the company that provides me with great service is making lots more money than another company in a different country if i'm still getting four times the better deal? It would just be greedy to ask them to lower the price to get 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 times the deal that my UK friends are getting...

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linkgx1 said:

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****, didn't know that . Wish I woulda gotten with VZW a while make.

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Yeah it was really by luck i ended up with VZW about 2 years ago or so. Tmobile service was dropping all the time for me and when i called customer service they basically said, Tough crap! So i went to VZW (after a 2 week trial with Sprint where i got no service at my home) and haven't looked back. Of course since ATT throttles and creates stupid limits like no facetime over the network for unlimited members and such i can guess that this honeymoon with VZW won't last forever. But for now there are no caps and no throttles on unlimited VZW.

leoneedees said:

I'm assuming that is because of both the iphone and ipad? From what I understand I'll just be losing the unlimited but my plan won't cost anymore. Still paying 30$ for data but only getting 2gb instead of unlimited.

My dad just upgraded to the S3 and we weren't moved to the "share everything" plan we are still on our own separate data plans.

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I didn't figure the price on the phone and the ipad, just with the phone. I only need data on the ipad for the summer months for work. With just the phone plans, it's $10 more per month.

Right now I have the iPad on for $20/mo, not sure what the new plan would tack on for that.

My thing is that I have a 450 minute plan plus the $10 text add-on, so the "everything" plans really don't benefit me at all. If I had an unlimited data plan I'd likely do more music streaming, but I've never had that so I never got used to it.

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Geckotek said:

I hit (or came very close) to the 2GB on my Verizon iPad multiple times now. I don't know how I'd survive on a shared plan with only 1-2GB.

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I stay on wifi as much as I can. I have really only used the 3G a few times for work. This is my third month with it on, I'll probably turn it off the end of October until next June or July.

Last month I don't even think I hit 400mb

diane143 said:

I stay on wifi as much as I can. I have really only used the 3G a few times for work. This is my third month with it on, I'll probably turn it off the end of October until next June or July.

Last month I don't even think I hit 400mb

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I do too, but last weekend I was sitting in a hotel that charges for WiFi and decided too stream some YouTube videos using LTE. After a few I got an email stating I had hit 50% of my data. I had walked in that day w/o using much data at all.

The moral? You can go from hardly using any to using 1 GB in less than a couple of hours. 1-2GB data plans are WAY too restrictive in today's streaming happy world.

I'll be keeping my unlimited until they pry it away from me. If that means paying full retail, so be it. I use a ton of data just streaming pandora. I can't imagine what it will go to once we get LTE and netflix and youtube are actually usable.

Definitely glad I kept unlimited data. I've used 2.5 GB already in not even a week and a half. When I went on the phone and was asking verizon about this they were like, look, you probably don't need unlimited data, you haven't even one over 200mb for the last 8 months. That's what I get for using a BlackBerry though

boomhower said:

I'll be keeping my unlimited until they pry it away from me. If that means paying full retail, so be it. I use a ton of data just streaming pandora. I can't imagine what it will go to once we get LTE and netflix and youtube are actually usable.

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Sad Verizon screwed you unlimited guys though. At least with AT&T we got to keep our unlimited and get a subsidy.

Both companies stink. Just depends where they screw you.

bradmullins007 said:

The reason Europe is so far ahead of us in relationship to your post is because we don't want progress in America apparently. Everyone is blindly lead around like sheep and they vote for conservative politicians that vote against and oppose any type of regulation. Generally the conservative politicians call it socialism. Europe is
Progressive and proud of it and we're falling behind more and more because we love being part of the stone age here in America.

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No, it's not that we don't want progress - it's that we don't want to be taxed to death like they are in Europe.

Let's let you pay out the tax rates they pay in Europe, not to mention the taxes on fuel and everyday goods, and you'd be changing your tune real quick.....

I have had the unlimited data since 2007. Now, I can actually use it and appreciate it.

erratikmind said:

I have had the unlimited data since 2007. Now, I can actually use it and appreciate it.

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Same here on AT&T. We were never using more than 500mb per month, mostly less. Now I rack up nearly 2 gigs in a week. Gotta love LTE!

rman726 said:

You never know. How many people are actually on unlimited? They stopped offering unlimited in June of 2010.

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My Verizon contract began in March 2010. I have since made my plan completely unlimited. When I bought the iPhone 5, I made darn sure that my unlimited plan would remain in place. I don't want to have to worry about counting minutes or counting GB's.

When my generation (I am 22 almost 23 years old/"generation TECH") runs congress and the government, all these big cell phone and internet providers will get cracked down on with legislation and we will finally catch up to the rest of the high-tech world.

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Please run for office!!!