All I can say is whoever approved the "stitching" in calendar and then decided also it was somehow a good idea that the the DAYS ,DATES and TIMES should be rendered in grayscale instead of BLACK should be bludgeoned to death with a massive sledgehammer.
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Apple's Designers Clashing Over 'Tacky' Software Skeuomorphisms
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iCal is cute, but Find My Friends has too much space wasted by skeuomorphism. I think it only makes sense when the interface doesn't get in the way, and even then it really only adds a touch of whimsy and maybe approachability to older folks perhaps.
I'm conflicted on this issue.. On the one hand, the look is wonderfully anachronistic, and kind of precious.. On the other hand, there's something to be said for a fresh and clean look..
completely agree.
the calendar app and game center are absolutely hideous.
internally apple employees find that design embarrassing.
how about some consistency?
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the calendar app and game center are absolutely hideous.
internally apple employees find that design embarrassing.
how about some consistency?
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I always thought it made the apps "fun" and less scary for some people.
But I would love to see Ives take it in a different direction if he feels he has better designs!
And with how confusing Windows 8 is going to be for people...I don't know if they have room to criticize. The video of someone's father using Lion and Windows 8 for the first time speaks volumes on this topic...
But I would love to see Ives take it in a different direction if he feels he has better designs!
And with how confusing Windows 8 is going to be for people...I don't know if they have room to criticize. The video of someone's father using Lion and Windows 8 for the first time speaks volumes on this topic...
People are quick to discount these skeumorphisms or whatever you want to call them; designing graphics is NOT an easy task especially creating works of art.
There's nothing wrong with a calendar app looking like a real one, or a tearing sheets of paper to mimic real life; i don't find that the least bit turn off or annoying enough to want apple to stop.
These shouldn't be problems inside apple - the real problems are the software interface, it's the damn entire lack of innovation these days. 1024x768 ipad mini screen, same iphone 4->4S-5 design (albeit larger screen). Seems like apple is more worried about the bottom $ rather than stepping up and innovating rather than rehashing old components.
There's nothing wrong with a calendar app looking like a real one, or a tearing sheets of paper to mimic real life; i don't find that the least bit turn off or annoying enough to want apple to stop.
These shouldn't be problems inside apple - the real problems are the software interface, it's the damn entire lack of innovation these days. 1024x768 ipad mini screen, same iphone 4->4S-5 design (albeit larger screen). Seems like apple is more worried about the bottom $ rather than stepping up and innovating rather than rehashing old components.
I find the touches whimsical as well especially since they are done really well. You have to execute the idea with skill or it will come off as tacky.
As for pointing to Windows 8 as something good? Are you kidding me? They ripped off a bunch of websites like United Colors of Benetton and swiss traffic signs.
Their use traffic symbols from Switzerland's highways makes even less sense.
The colours used in Windows 8 make me want to barf.
OS X has a long history of skeuomorphism in the toolbar icons. As long as you design the elements well then I don't see a problem. MSFT is really bad at the concept as witnessed in their Microsoft Bob product.
As for pointing to Windows 8 as something good? Are you kidding me? They ripped off a bunch of websites like United Colors of Benetton and swiss traffic signs.
Their use traffic symbols from Switzerland's highways makes even less sense.
The colours used in Windows 8 make me want to barf.
OS X has a long history of skeuomorphism in the toolbar icons. As long as you design the elements well then I don't see a problem. MSFT is really bad at the concept as witnessed in their Microsoft Bob product.
I can understand iCal and Address book looking as they do for iOS. I would imagine they look great on the smaller screen.
However, for the desktop OS they look hideous. THey look cheap and nasty, something you would have expected in Windows 95. Not something that claims to be the best OS in the world.
However, for the desktop OS they look hideous. THey look cheap and nasty, something you would have expected in Windows 95. Not something that claims to be the best OS in the world.
I find a big difference in the skeuomorphism used for the "leather" look or the "felt table" used for Game Center, as opposed to that used in the paper shredder visual. There's a big difference to me between static background that doesn't offer much versus an animation.
I'm a graphic designer and I think this looks nice. Then again, the new Miami Marlins logo is the ugliest design I have seen this year and millions of people bought a team hat.
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Podcasts applatest victim
I personally hate the new Podcasts appthe interface is an atrocity of small non-iOS-standard buttons, tiny text, and hidden/confusing features. Top this off with a totally unnecessary skeuomorphic animation of a legacy tape deck (where, inconsistently, the transport sometimes moves, sometimes doesn't), constant crashes, and unreliable auto-downloads (on both my iPhone 3GS and my wife's iPhone 4)...and you have a crap pile of an app.
As my wife says, "I'd expect this from a 3rd-party app, but as a core feature app from Apple? Wow."
I really hope they update this tomorrow, as I use it daily, but now more as a download manager and the Music app to play the Podcasts. I fear the Podcasts tab will disappear from Music, though, forcing me to use this crap.
I personally hate the new Podcasts appthe interface is an atrocity of small non-iOS-standard buttons, tiny text, and hidden/confusing features. Top this off with a totally unnecessary skeuomorphic animation of a legacy tape deck (where, inconsistently, the transport sometimes moves, sometimes doesn't), constant crashes, and unreliable auto-downloads (on both my iPhone 3GS and my wife's iPhone 4)...and you have a crap pile of an app.
As my wife says, "I'd expect this from a 3rd-party app, but as a core feature app from Apple? Wow."
I really hope they update this tomorrow, as I use it daily, but now more as a download manager and the Music app to play the Podcasts. I fear the Podcasts tab will disappear from Music, though, forcing me to use this crap.
I would also like to see his vision of a UI.
Let's have an "Iveistic" button in the settings. Turn it off and you get the current theme, turn it on and you can have Sir John's fancy.
Never thought I'd see the day when Apple engineers point to Microsoft Windows as the shining example of the proper way forward... !
The new Podcast app is an example of how terrible these UIs can be. I mean really - the speed controls are toggles on a reel-to-reel tape? What does a podcast have to do with reel-to-reel at all?
I love the skeuomorphism designs. I'm so glad Apple does what they want and doesn't listen to their outspoken zealot critics.
Having recently played with windows 8, I have to say I really really like it.
I've also been puzzled why, when apple have brought modern design classics to market, like iMac, iPod etc etc etc, they are releasing ugly old fashioned looking bits of software.
I can see Microsoft starting to win back fans...
I've also been puzzled why, when apple have brought modern design classics to market, like iMac, iPod etc etc etc, they are releasing ugly old fashioned looking bits of software.
I can see Microsoft starting to win back fans...
Agreed. It's almost a cop-out when copying real-life elements in design. It's like they can't think of anything else so they mimic real life counterparts in the UI. This from a company claiming to be original.