Yea, the best ping I have seen on 3G was 97ms and the fastest download I have seen is 11 Mbps on HSPA+
People are getting 25mbit+ on T-Mobile 42mbps network deployments.
Yea, the best ping I have seen on 3G was 97ms and the fastest download I have seen is 11 Mbps on HSPA+
I get 7-9Mbps download speeds on AT&T 3G (faux 4G) all the time, but the ping time in the screen grab is BS for 3G.
55ms ping response screams WiFi.
The best ping response over 3G I've ever seen is 135ms.
I'm in an upgraded backhaul area myself, we even have AT&T LTE in the area now.I receive 35-65ms every time I do speed tests on 3G.. But then again I live in a upgraded back-haul area with a cellular tower existing not even a mile from my house.
My wife is on tmo with a 3gs here in Kirkland, WA (Seattle Metro). When I get home 2 hours or so, I will see if I can get her phone to pick up 3g. Stay tuned folks
This kills me. If I have no contract, have paid off my phone and I can buy an unlocked version of the exact same phone directly from Apple, what's their legal ground now?
Their ground, whther legal or not, is that they helped you buy that iPhone you are holding in your hand with like a $400 subsidy...therefore, you are stuck with them...if you didnt want that, you shouldnt have let them help you buy that iPhone yuo are holding.
Simple Economics
Hey, I live in Nevada!
Looks like I should return my Sprint 4S and buy an unlocked one and hop on T-mobile's network?
for these 'iPhone capable' areas, can you use a factory unlocked iPhone 4S?
Anaheim
Burbank
Fresno
Glendale
Irvine
Los Angeles
Long Beach
Merced
Modesto
Monterey
Napa
Oakland
Ontario
Palm Springs
Sacramento
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose
Santa Rosa-Petaluma
Salinas
Stockton
Vallejo-Fairfield
Visalia
I got an email from T-Mobile the other day offering a free 4G Mobile Hot Spot with a monthly rate of $19.99. On the web site page, they show the following northern California cities where 4G is available:
It's a great price.
How much data usage?
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ONLY if T-Mobile switches 3G / 4G on their 1900mhz spectrum in those areas. Currently (and historically) their 3G/4G is operating on other bands (1700mhz / 2100mhz AWS), while the only data available on T-Mobile on 1900mhz is EDGE (2g, much slower).So I'm still puzzled. Does this mean wherever T-Mobile has 4G data coverage the iPhone will run on 3G? If this is the case then most of the Boston Metro area would be covered with 4G and should allow 3G speed on iPhones. Can anybody confirm that?
Thanks.
WiWavelength said:A single 3G/4G W-CDMA carrier channel is 5 MHz x 5 MHz bandwidth for 10 MHz total spectrum outlay. Thus far, T-Mobile has deployed 3G/4G W-CDMA primarily or exclusively in its AWS 2100+1700 MHz spectrum. In T-Mobile's AWS 20+ MHz licensed bandwidth markets, it is using W-CDMA Release 8, Category 24 -- otherwise known as (non MIMO) Dual Carrier HSPA+ 42. In T-Mobile's AWS 10 MHz licensed bandwidth markets, it is using W-CDMA Release 7, Category 14 -- otherwise known as (non MIMO) HSPA+ 21. As far as I know, T-Mobile has not implemented any MIMO categories.
Now, on to recycling some PCS 1900 MHz spectrum from 2G GSM to 3G/4G W-CDMA...
Among the top 50 markets, T-Mobile has PCS licensed bandwidth of 20 MHz to 40 MHz. Here are three fairly comprehensive lists:
-PCS 20 MHz licensed bandwidth: New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Washington, DC, Miami, Cleveland (23.6 MHz), San Diego (25 MHz), Milwaukee, Tampa-St. Petersburg (25 MHz), Buffalo, New Orleans (25 MHz), Hartford, Sacramento (25 MHz)
-PCS 30 MHz licensed bandwidth: Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit, San Francisco-Oakland, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Atlanta, Seattle, Cincinnati, Phoenix, San Jose, Indianapolis, Portland, Columbus, San Antonio, Memphis, Louisville, Providence, Salt Lake City, Dayton
-PCS 40 MHz licensed bandwidth: Minneapolis-St. Paul, Denver, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Rochester, Birmingham
In order to recycle PCS spectrum and deploy 3G/4G W-CDMA 1900, T-Mobile most likely requires PCS licensed bandwidth of at least 30 MHz. So, the PCS 20 MHz licensed bandwidth markets need not apply. Sorry, New York, Los Angeles, Boston, etc. Those markets will probably not see 3G/4G W-CDMA in PCS spectrum anytime soon.
But T-Mobile's AWS 10 MHz licensed bandwidth markets are stuck at HSPA 21+ and are the markets most in need of recycling some PCS spectrum from 2G GSM to 3G/4G W-CDMA. Again, from the top 50, here is a complete (or nearly so) list:
-AWS 10 MHz licensed bandwidth: St. Louis, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Buffalo, Rochester, Memphis, Louisville, Dayton, Birmingham
Particularly of note, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Kansas City, Rochester, and Birmingham are on both the PCS 40 MHz and AWS 10 MHz licensed bandwidth lists. That means that these markets are almost assured candidates for recycling some PCS spectrum for 3G/4G W-CDMA. In fact, these PCS 40 MHz markets probably have enough spectrum to deploy Dual Carrier HSPA+ 42 in recycled PCS spectrum.
Additionally, AWS 10 MHz but PCS 30 MHz markets St. Louis, Cincinnati, Memphis, Louisville, and Dayton probably have enough PCS spectrum to deploy one HSPA+ 21 carrier channel in recycled PCS spectrum.
Unfortunately, AWS 10 MHz and PCS 20 MHz markets Milwaukee and Buffalo are probably out of luck. They likely lack enough AWS spectrum and PCS spectrum, alike, to advance beyond their single HSPA+ 21 carrier channel in AWS spectrum anytime in the foreseeable future.
AJ
ONLY if T-Mobile switches 3G / 4G on their 1900mhz spectrum in those areas. Currently (and historically) their 3G/4G is operating on other bands (1700mhz / 2100mhz AWS), while the only data available on T-Mobile on 1900mhz is EDGE (2g, much slower). .............................................................................................................................
Good for those folks that can access 3G on their iPhones rather than the slow edge.