something is slowing it down

zoran · Sep 10, 2012

Hi, i have a G5 1.8ghz with 3GB ram, its using the latest leopard version it can hold up and its configured with a second 150gb drive (OSX uses a 80GB one). its dual boot configured, Tiger and Leopard, each OSX on each drive, Tiger is on the big drive. The speed when using Leopard is very bad, so i figured to throw in some Activity Monitor pics on how things are and maybe you guys can give a hint on what might be wrong!

Intell · Sep 10, 2012

It would appear that it is downloading something. Could you post a screen shot of all of the processes in Activity Monitor sorted by CPU percentage?

zoran · Sep 10, 2012

Does this look like something is downloaded?

Intell · Sep 10, 2012

It doesn't look like that. Are you transferring files to it over a network?

zoran · Sep 10, 2012

Intell said:
It doesn't look like that. Are you transferring files to it over a network?

Nope just running a web based app!

Intell · Sep 10, 2012

Post the all running processes list in Activity Monitor sorted by CPU usage. Make sure it's all process and not "My Processes".

zoran · Sep 16, 2012

I have made screen shots throughout the day to get the whole picture!

zoran · Sep 25, 2012

A few more pics, everything was very slow at the time when i took these! Do you see anything strange?

justperry · Sep 25, 2012

zoran said:
A few more pics, everything was very slow at the time when i took these! Do you see anything strange?

No, not really, firefox is a bit higher but not very high.

Activity Monitor won't always show problems, I had it a few times when the system is not responding well, but it doesn't show in Activity Monitor.

Edit 1:, just checked your first post, not full.
Another problem could be if your disk is almost full, how full is it?

If for instance you have mere Gb to spare and a few swap files it could be a problem.

BTW, are these all your processes, including Administer Processes?
Open up Activity Monitor and show ALL processes, I have many more than you.
Why is user tab not showing users, you edited it?

Edit 2 : It shows 57 Processes but in the window it shows less!

Jethryn Freyman · Sep 25, 2012

In your Activity Monitor screenshots you're only showing processes that your user account is running - not the actual system itself.

See my screenshot of my Activity Monitor below, running fully upgraded Leopard on a dual 1.8GHz G5 like yours:

RED circle: Select "All Processes", not "My Processes".
BLUE circle: It should then show processes from the system (called "root") and some other system processes.
GREEN circle: weird, never seen POWERPC capitalised before like in your screenshots..

ALSO: I suggest you use TenFourFox to browse the web instead of Firefox. It *is* Firefox, just a PowerPC port of a much newer version of Firefox, with optimisations for PowerPC Macs.

GermanyChris · Sep 25, 2012

Jethryn Freyman said:
In your Activity Monitor screenshots you're only showing processes that your user account is running - not the actual system itself.

See my screenshot of my Activity Monitor below, running fully upgraded Leopard on a dual 1.8GHz G5 like yours:

RED circle: Select "All Processes", not "My Processes".
BLUE circle: It should then show processes from the system (called "root") and some other system processes.
GREEN circle: weird, never seen POWERPC capitalised before like in your screenshots..

ALSO: I suggest you use TenFourFox to browse the web instead of Firefox. It *is* Firefox, just a PowerPC port of a much newer version of Firefox, with optimisations for PowerPC Macs.

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TFF is slow on my quad, it would be really bad on a DP 1.8

California · Sep 25, 2012

GermanyChris said:
TFF is slow on my quad, it would be really bad on a DP 1.8

Did they make a DP 1.8? Anyway, OP says its a single 1.8. i owned the one that took eight gigs of ram and it was slower than molasses. The four gig of ram 1.8 must have been a nightmare.

GermanyChris · Sep 25, 2012

California said:
Did they make a DP 1.8? Anyway, OP says its a single 1.8. i owned the one that took eight gigs of ram and it was slower than molasses. The four gig of ram 1.8 must have been a nightmare.

Ya know I looked a Jethryn Freyman sig for the DP 1.8 your right the OP doesn't state that. A single 1.8 would be worse.

zoran · Sep 25, 2012

Jethryn Freyman said:
ALSO: I suggest you use TenFourFox to browse the web instead of Firefox. It *is* Firefox, just a PowerPC port of a much newer version of Firefox, with optimisations for PowerPC Macs.

MANY MANY THANX regarding TFF, it is much faster than original FFox, i couldnt believe my eyes!!!

Only one thing, is there a version of Firebug for it?

Jethryn Freyman · Sep 26, 2012

California said:
Did they make a DP 1.8? Anyway, OP says its a single 1.8. i owned the one that took eight gigs of ram and it was slower than molasses. The four gig of ram 1.8 must have been a nightmare.

As far as I know the only G5 tower with a single CPU was a single 1.6GHz. I've got the dual 1.8, which is the crippled model that can only take 4GB memory - no single-processor G5 could take 8GB of RAM. And any version on TFF will be faster than the last PPC version of Firefox

GermanyChris · Sep 26, 2012

Jethryn Freyman said:
As far as I know the only G5 tower with a single CPU was a single 1.6GHz. I've got the dual 1.8, which is the crippled model that can only take 4GB memory - no single-processor G5 could take 8GB of RAM. And any version on TFF will be faster than the last PPC version of Firefox

Apple Power Macintosh G5 1.8 (PCI-X) Specs

Identifiers: Power Mac G5 - M9031LL/A - PowerMac7,2 - A1047 - 1969

Single 1.8

Apple Power Macintosh G5 1.8 (PCI) Specs

Identifiers: Late 2004 - M9555LL/A - PowerMac9,1 - A1093 - 2020

Single 1.8

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/index-powermac-g5.html

666sheep · Sep 26, 2012

Jethryn Freyman said:
no single-processor G5 could take 8GB of RAM.

3 of them could: 1.8 single (PCI-X), 2.0 and 2.3 single (DC). Last 2 even 16GB

OP, you could try clean 10.5 install, update combo to 10.5.8 (after that do all updates via Software Update) then customize it with Xslimmer or Monolingual (be careful with that). At the very last use justperry's "trick" with manual deleting kexts unnecessary for your machine (see his post in FAQ).

BTW, what exactly do you mean by "slow"? Overall, Internet, video, applications, games? What graphics card you're using?

orestes1984 · Sep 26, 2012

As an alternate to Ten Four Fox you can also run Camino which is still current with the Mozilla project. I prefer it on PPC Macs it has a lot of other things installed by default like click to flash and its light and fast.

Firefox is a memory hog and it always has had a substantial memory leak. Get rid of it and run a current browser, either Ten Four Fox, or Camino.

ihuman:D · Sep 26, 2012

orestes1984 said:
As an alternate to Ten Four Fox you can also run Camino which is still current with the Mozilla project. I prefer it on PPC Macs it has a lot of other things installed by default like click to flash and its light and fast.

Firefox is a memory hog and it always has had a substantial memory leak. Get rid of it and run a current browser, either Ten Four Fox, or Camino.

I'd also recommend Camino. It runs great on my PowerPC Mac.

GermanyChris · Sep 26, 2012

lets not forget Omniweb

California · Sep 26, 2012

GermanyChris said:
Apple Power Macintosh G5 1.8 (PCI-X) Specs

Identifiers: Power Mac G5 - M9031LL/A - PowerMac7,2 - A1047 - 1969

Single 1.8

Apple Power Macintosh G5 1.8 (PCI) Specs

Identifiers: Late 2004 - M9555LL/A - PowerMac9,1 - A1093 - 2020

Single 1.8

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/index-powermac-g5.html

Yes, I had the earlier model single 1.8 that took 8 gigs of ram and had a 900mhz bus; two years later the single 1.8 only took 4 gigs of ram and had a 600mhz bus.

The earlier model was slow. My mom's 2.0ghz iMac G5 ambient sensor was faster.

zoran · Sep 26, 2012

It seems that Firefox is using very little virtual memory, could this be the issue and if so, how can i put more VMemory to Fireboxes usage?

orestes1984 · Sep 26, 2012

zoran said:
It seems that Firefox is using very little virtual memory, could this be the issue and if so, how can i put more VMemory to Fireboxes usage?

You can not manage virtual memory with OS X in the way you can with OS 9

zoran · Sep 26, 2012

orestes1984 said:
You can not manage virtual memory with OS X in the way you can with OS 9

and this means that one cannot manage it at all?

orestes1984 · Sep 26, 2012

Pretty much...

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