Yeah, the 13" unibody used to be called MacBook and was just a deluxe version of the plastic ones, they changed the name to MacBook Pro for uniformity more than anything else. If you're a creative pro working on that cramped little thing, congrats for having customers who are willing to pay for the extra hours you spend toggling tool panels and scrolling.I agree the 13" is overpriced, but I couldn't care less that it has integrated graphics. It should just be cheaper. The vast majority of people don't need a dedicated GPU - including many of those complaining, I bet. If you really do need it, get the 15".
Also, why is anyone at all surprised by this? The 13" has NEVER been a Pro machine. There haven't been discrete graphics on the 13" since forever. Are you all new to Apple or something?
I was disappointed as well when I heard that. But then I saw the Verge's hands-on and was pretty impressed. They ran a multitrack Garageband file, streamed a 1080p Iron Man 3 trailer, and panned around a 21 megapixel RAW photo in Aperture and it didn't even stutter.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3540614/13-inch-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-hands-on
At the end of the day, I want smoothness, responsiveness and quickness - not specs. Then again, benchmarks put the 15-inch Retina (with quad-core processors and discrete GPU) at a 40-50% advantage quantitatively. I've got some hard soul-searching to do.
Steve didn't just follow a play book, he also followed his... call it what you will, gut, intuition, EQ, that whole "I'll know it when I see it" thing. Adaptation is the essence of intelligence. Steve had a map AND a compass. IQ and EQ. If you just follow a map blindly you'll become one of those guys who drive into a lake because the GPS said there's a road there. Does Tim Cook have a Steve-like compass? I doubt it.Lol.
Nothing has changed. They are following Steve's play book exactly.
Lol.
Nothing has changed. They are following Steve's play book exactly. Were you all not paying attention during the last 5 years or something? Apple hardware has always been overpriced and underpowered. Despite that, it usually is much nicer to use and much nicer looking. Apple had also always crippled the 13" MBP, under the almighty Steve as well. Or did the 2009, 2010 and 2012 13" MBPs have discrete chips and I'm just forgetting?
Right, because you cannot edit video or drive a couple of displays with the Intel 4000? Let me guess, you are a "pro" gamer?
If you can update the CPU to an i7 quad core, that is all you really need.
Show me a laptop with the resolution of the 13" MBP let alone the 15" model made by any other company. I'm waiting.
Seriously, you can edit 2K video with ease on either the 13" or 15" model and the latter can display close to 3K resolution giving you a pretty good idea of what 4K video will look like.
For non-gaming, the CPU, memory bandwidth and I/O speed is more of a factor than discrete graphics.
@KPOM: Don't mind Mr. Dee. He thinks that he needs discreet graphics to post faster to facebook.
This commercial just reaffirms my recent sentiments...stuff feels stale and it bums me out
The pro in me wants a discrete GPU.
me to .. or please just remove "pro" from it
Seems like the MacBook Pro is the old MacBook.
Apple's product offering has got really muddled over the last year or so: feels like the company lacks clarity of vision.
My thoughts exactly.Just thought I'd check out the prices for the new 13" Macbook pro with Retina screen on the UK web site. I think they have lost the plot a bit with regards to their pricing structure.
Unless your specifically looking for a smaller device you would be crazy to choose the 13" over the 15" model for only £100 more
13-inch: 2.5GHz
with Retina display
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
8GB 1600MHz memory
256GB flash storage1
Intel HD Graphics 4000
Built-in battery (7 hours)2
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£1,699.00
15-inch: 2.3GHz
with Retina display
2.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7
Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz memory
256GB flash storage1
Intel HD Graphics 4000
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
Built-in battery (7 hours)2
In Stock
Free Delivery
£1,799.00
Right, because you cannot edit video or drive a couple of displays with the Intel 4000? Let me guess, you are a "pro" gamer?
When fanboys start complaining about Apple. You know something is not quite right behind closed doors.
Apple hardware has always been overpriced and underpowered. Despite that, it usually is much nicer to use and much nicer looking. Apple had also always crippled the 13" MBP, under the almighty Steve as well.
Why? Does it confuse you if you are really a "pro"
I have the MBP 17", a great machine but very top heavy to the point where if you push the display all the way back, it nearly lifts the base off the table. On a Retina version without optical drive the base would probably be so light and wafer thin that the display would be able to grab the base by the arm and send it whoosing into space.Gimme a 17 inch retina then we're talking.
FYI: Discrete video card=dedicated video card. Example: NVIDIA GeForce GT 650MI doubt the next generation will have dedicated graphics. Apple is trying to push discrete graphics fairly strong, and eventually it will be able to keep up with dedicated but today they are weening us too soon. I don't really like the whole mindset Apple seems to have gotten however that customers should be treated as beta testers working out all the kinks. The non retina MBP 13" and MBA is fine for integrated graphics as long as you aren't a gamer, and it's actually better than what they used before that but I just can't see the retina doing well with that at all. And it's such an expensive computer it should have very good graphics performance.