Take a look at that student at the bottom. Now I ask you this question. Who held a gun to his head to go to school and incur that debt? Who's fault is it that he is not motivated or talented enough to get a job to pay off those loans after graduating?So you can't provide an example of some propaganda that supports something along the lines of "People who hire Chinese workers help the workers and the economy."? Oh my. I don't even see how it's possible to have propaganda for something that is FACTUALLY CORRECT. Hiring people means that you pay them money, not charge them money.
Well, I have some propaganda that says that those people are evil and harmful, so if anything, I'd say that you're following the propaganda:
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In case you're wondering, I don't watch the biased Fox News. I get my news from the LA Times, KPCC public radio, and KCAL9/CBS.
I wonder if they will be able to replace the battery or will they have to build another yacht.
I should at Least have the brand new Thin flat screen iMacs Those machines dont need optical drives to control a boat.
The fact that he is a member of the Socialist Party seems to show that he is a lazy **** who expects a job to be handed to him on a silver platter because he has a "degree".
Not really better. Have you ever been on a yacht that size at sea. I don't mean a harbor cruise or a dockside tour. I mean "at sea". If you have you'd know in a minuet your die on that thing. The main trouble is the huge open spaces where you'd get tossed 20 feet into a well. Boats made for the open ocen have grab rails and smaller internal spaces.
Also the extream width means the boat will roll badly and make the crew sick.
THis thing is designed for flat protected water and us at the dock. Ocen going boats are more narrow
I personally would not trust my life on this vessel for a transoceanic voyage. Hell, I'd wouldn't trust taking that thing out to the Farallons.
How did it not? Apple didn't pay for this, Jobs did.
It was his money not his families.
That I agree with, but that wasn't my point. That other guy thinks that I'm "drinking the free-market Koolaid" because I said that hiring Chinese workers helps them. Isn't it a fact that giving someone a job helps them even if it earns nowhere near decent wage? At least they have an option.
So then I put the Occupy Wall Street signs there just to show that the only propaganda that exists here is propaganda against capitalism or big corporations. The news depicted OWS as heros, and isn't the big company always the bad guy in every movie? He couldn't give any examples of propaganda that I might be falling for. I ignore propaganda anyway...
At this point you've proven yourself beyond susceptible to rational argument or reasonability so I won't be bothering beyond this. I've already gone over your hackneyed recital of 'job creator' myths and linked it to it's ideology.
Two things.
One. You of course are assuming that by forcing people out of a one way of life into an industrialized one with pollution and factories that pay them slave wages that this is somehow better because they can eat at McDonalds or save enough to eventually buy a consumer product as if that defines a worthwhile existence. Clearly for you it does as you're awash in this consumerist narrative that has been fed to you your entire life and are pitching us here.
Two. In your world view slavery would actually cash out to be an improvement. In a slave wage economy the capitalist simply replaces used or broken down workers with new ones. He has no responsibility or care for their humanity or welfare so long as he is working under whatever meager law if any (preferably none) is administered. When slavery did exist there was a financial incentive for the slave holder to make sure his slaves had basic needs health and welfare were met. The fact that your absent minded views permit slavery to be a better option to what you're suggesting should be enough of an embarrassment to prevent you from spilling any more of your adolescent views onto the rest of us but I think you've proven yourself the typical American already. Willfully ignorant and dangerously arrogant.
This "Steve Jobs in the present tense" stuff is getting creepy - it's time to switch to the past tense or some of the subjunctive verbs.
I'm just saying that paying someone helps them, and you seem to think that hiring a Chinese worker to build a boat hurts that worker, but by logic, it doesn't.
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This isn't true by definition. If paying someone 'helps them' in every case, then paying a chinese working 1 dollar a day is 'helping them'. In that case, paying a 10 year old child in afrika 2 cents per lifted stone is 'helping them'. Just paying someone doesn't necessarily mean you 'help them'. I think that's the only thing he is saying.
If you only want that kind of logic, become friends with Tuvok. By logic, you hurt the chinese worker by paying him a slavery-wage for building a boat when he could also do something else or get payed a normal wage.
This isn't true by definition. If paying someone 'helps them' in every case, then paying a chinese working 1 dollar a day is 'helping them'. In that case, paying a 10 year old child in afrika 2 cents per lifted stone is 'helping them'. Just paying someone doesn't necessarily mean you 'help them'. I think that's the only thing he is saying.
If you only want that kind of logic, become friends with Tuvok. By logic, you hurt the chinese worker by paying him a slavery-wage for building a boat when he could also do something else or get payed a normal wage.
No, that's not hurting him even if you pay $0.0001/year. You're giving the worker another option. The pay may suck, but you're not forcing him to take the job. So the act of building a boat and putting a "help wanted" ad or whatever to get Chinese workers to build it does not hurt anyone.
In case you still don't see why it's factually correct that hiring Chinese workers does not hurt them, I'll give you an example. Right now, I am officially offering you a job. If you repair my bike, I will pay you $0.01. It has messed up brakes, so they need to be fixed. Did I just hurt your situation in any way? All I did was give you the option of taking a terrible job that you'd probably not do. Even if you decided to take it, hey, that's your choice, not mine.
Also, when an employer hires Chinese workers, this causes the supply for workers to decrease, which eventually creates higher wages. Plus, those workers get a job that they have the option of taking. I'm not saying that it's fair that Chinese workers have to work hard and get paid little. It's not fair. But (insert company here) hiring workers in China will actually help people, not hurt them.
I dunno what shortcomings you think you're on about, but I've got a pair of eyes and that boat is hideous.Yes, because all you should care about is what "other" people think of your boat rather than how enjoyable it is for the people on board.
You might feel the need to compensate for your shortcomings but not everyone is interested in showing off for others.
Think about it for a minute, would you spend a lot of money on a boat that looked attractive to make people jealous while not serving your comfort needs when you are onboard?
Personally, if I was as rich as Jobs was, I would not give a rat's arse what people like you thought. I would create a boat for my family to enjoy.
That thing is sooooooo fugly.