Fantasy land? The government will do what it wants and when it wants if it believes it's in the "best interests".
Alienating a corporation as large as Apple would not be favourable to the country at all.
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Apple Ordered to Alter Website Statement Acknowledging Samsung Galaxy Tab Did Not Infringe on iPad Design
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Fantasy land? The government will do what it wants and when it wants if it believes it's in the "best interests".
Alienating a corporation as large as Apple would not be favourable to the country at all.
Whoops! This is too funny. I love Apple's snarky "apology", but the UK courts didn't find it amusing. I guess we'll be seeing 2 notices on Apple's site: one for the UK's ridiculous (in my opinion) demand, and another for the German and US court ruling...Hmm, can'twait to see Apple's approach here.
Haha, now I really wish Steve Jobs was here for this. I wonder if he would've gone "thermonuclear" on the UK courts and said: "Screw that. We'll pull the iPad from Britain entirely." I doubt it, but that would've rocked! (even if it makes NO business sense)
Haha, now I really wish Steve Jobs was here for this. I wonder if he would've gone "thermonuclear" on the UK courts and said: "Screw that. We'll pull the iPad from Britain entirely." I doubt it, but that would've rocked! (even if it makes NO business sense)
Just a thought - thats not technically the homepage from the UK. There's nothing that redirects you there. The judge could, if he wanted to, force them to put it directly on apple.com
The original ruling was a mockery.
Apple never posted on their website that Samsung copied the iPad.
Apple never took out advertisements in the UK saying that Samsung had copied the iPad.
Therefore, a legal ruling them forcing them to post on their website and pay to take out advertisements saying Samsung didn't copy the iPad is ludicrous. Dismiss the case, or at worse, assess Apple some monetary damages to pay to Samsung for their court costs.
The fact that such a ruling is legal in the UK is frankly pretty surprising to me. The judicial system seems to have absolute power.
Finally I should say something about the notice itself. We heard no discussion about that. Plainly Judge Birss's Schedule has been overtaken by events. Subject to anything that may be submitted by either side I would propose the following:
On 9th July 2012 the High Court of Justice of England and Wales ruled that Samsung Electronic (UK) Limited's Galaxy Tablet Computers, namely the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab 8.9 and Tab 7.7 do not infringe Apple's registered design No. 0000181607-0001. A copy of the full judgment of the High court is available on the following link [link given].
That Judgment has effect throughout the European Union and was upheld by the Court of Appeal on .. A copy of the Court of Appeal's judgment is available on the following link [ ]. There is no injunction in respect of the registered design in force anywhere in Europe.
Paragraph 87 http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html
Not quite sure what is wrong with quoting the judge's judgment in verbatim. Prepare to see only the final (US and German courts) paragraph disappear.
It's the High Court's problem for giving such a baffling reason why Samsung don't infringe. It's only being demanded to be removed by the CA because quite simply, Judge Robin is embarrassed by Judge Birrss rationale in the High Court.
It's the High Court's problem for giving such a baffling reason why Samsung don't infringe. It's only being demanded to be removed by the CA because quite simply, Judge Robin is embarrassed by Judge Birrss rationale in the High Court.
I wouldn't say they are incompetent, just unbelievably childish. The incompetent title goes to the web designers.. 2 weeks seriously?
Why would the government interfere? If Apple pulled out of the UK it would have next to no impact on the government as they avoid tax anyway, so the government wouldn't loose a penny.
Since you're so confident about this, would you care to share a few examples of the government interfering in a high profile case with a US corp?
It's amazing how Apple fans still act like Apple is the same (underdog) circa 1997 and needs all the help and backing we can offer. Fans get heated when the "underdog" doesn't appear to get a fair hearing, as if all the big boys are seeking to bring down the company.
Seriously, it's amazing to see the same kind of approach I used to see in 1997, when it was Apple v Microsoft (et all). Fans forget that Apple is the biggest company worldwide, has billions of cash and can afford the best lawyers in the business. And fail to see that Apple has now become the bully
I think you are dead on accurate. I find it bizzare that the Court ordered them to post something in the first place.
Well after skimming through the ruling, I've gotta say Apple was pretty dumb about this.
They should have just said what the judge told them to. It really wouldn't have made them look bad, or made them lose customers because frankly no one cares about the outcome of this case other then ppl on forums.
But now, Apple looks stupid, and a story like this might make them look bad since it has all the makings of a mainstream type of story.
All that being said, I still think Apple is way more mature and classy than Samsung.
They should have just said what the judge told them to. It really wouldn't have made them look bad, or made them lose customers because frankly no one cares about the outcome of this case other then ppl on forums.
But now, Apple looks stupid, and a story like this might make them look bad since it has all the makings of a mainstream type of story.
All that being said, I still think Apple is way more mature and classy than Samsung.
To anyone defending Apple:
Stop it, stop it right now please. Apple was clearly making fun of the ruling and Samsung with their original statement. Apple is not a 10 year old child, they are a billion dollar company and should act like one instead of acting like a butthurt brat. Apple got what was coming to them. This wasn't some child's play, this was a court ruling and they should've followed that (no, their initial apology is not following that order, how about you read up that statement and court's order). If I was the judge in that case, I would've fined them for that as well. Apple has more than 1 lawyer, I am damn sure if all those lawyers put their collective minds together, they can write a normal, legal apology without taking up 2 weeks. Christ, college students write thesis papers in less than that.
Stop it, stop it right now please. Apple was clearly making fun of the ruling and Samsung with their original statement. Apple is not a 10 year old child, they are a billion dollar company and should act like one instead of acting like a butthurt brat. Apple got what was coming to them. This wasn't some child's play, this was a court ruling and they should've followed that (no, their initial apology is not following that order, how about you read up that statement and court's order). If I was the judge in that case, I would've fined them for that as well. Apple has more than 1 lawyer, I am damn sure if all those lawyers put their collective minds together, they can write a normal, legal apology without taking up 2 weeks. Christ, college students write thesis papers in less than that.
Much better than letting whoever has the deepest pockets do whatever they want.
I was surprised when the ruling and appeal ruling went against Apple. But then again I was surprised when the company beat the Beatles on the issue of the Apple trademark for music-related activity.
The British (in this case the English and Welsh) courts decide on issues of British law. Apple would have been better advised not to try to be smarmily smart. The average high-ranking British judge is "cool" as in they do "get" irony and they're not easily impressed by gauche one-upmanship.
The UK is an important market for Apple and an important source of talent for its iTunes store and, of course, its industrial design (and thankfully now also its human interface) activities.
But it appears there's a very great deal that it doesn't know about the UK ... as even a cursory glance at its Maps app will confirm.
The British (in this case the English and Welsh) courts decide on issues of British law. Apple would have been better advised not to try to be smarmily smart. The average high-ranking British judge is "cool" as in they do "get" irony and they're not easily impressed by gauche one-upmanship.
The UK is an important market for Apple and an important source of talent for its iTunes store and, of course, its industrial design (and thankfully now also its human interface) activities.
But it appears there's a very great deal that it doesn't know about the UK ... as even a cursory glance at its Maps app will confirm.
Yes, totally misinformed. /sarcasm
Because making a corporation pay tax becomes so much easier when you go and alienate them. It'll only give them more incentive to opt out wherever and whenever they can, the relationship would become strained.
It's still inconsistent and unbalanced, even the judges that hand down the judgements say it. Take a Google, look at today's news, think back to the riot judgements. etc etc
Apple have been ordered to make the homepage link at least 11pt text too. I notice the current one (10px) has a class name of ".sosumi" ....hmm
The ruling itself is unbelievably childish. I don't think the update itself takes two weeks, but preparing the new text, finding time to do it and make the update, with some added margin in a large organization doesn't sound unreasonable.
And it was awesome. Glad to see the huge gigantic Apple still has the sarcasm of Jobs...
The more news I hear about this, the more I don't like Samsung. Even if Samsung didn't do anything and it was the judge, I still look at Samsung to blame. I'm sure others do too.
If anything, Samsung should just say forget about it as it makes them look worse now.
If anything, Samsung should just say forget about it as it makes them look worse now.
No matter who is right or wrong legally here .. comparative advertisement always leaves a very bad taste in my mouth .. never was a fan of the i am a mac commercials and I don't like this childish BS either.
That said .. Samsung is not a stranger to this type of marketing either, which is no better, even if they come from the underdog position.
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That said .. Samsung is not a stranger to this type of marketing either, which is no better, even if they come from the underdog position.
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