My original iPad has a paltry 256MB. Is it a little slow? Of course, but it works and I still use it everyday.
If apple didnt cheap out and give you 512 orginally, your ipad wouldnt be working so slow.
My original iPad has a paltry 256MB. Is it a little slow? Of course, but it works and I still use it everyday.
If apple didnt cheap out and give you 512 orginally, your ipad wouldnt be working so slow.
I can't believe people are buying the mini at this price point. It's already obsolete. I give it 3 months and we're going to start seeing people talk about how there mini is so sluggish.
Yes I'm a developer and have a very good understanding of memory and that's why I'm debating the point. The only reason an app would crash is due to the developer misunderstanding memory management which causes all sorts of leaks or they have a particularly memory intensive app, and it's only the likes of EA who push memory to its limit.
All apps as time progresses will use more and more memory to create bigger and better apps but that will always be the case...it's never ending. But currently there isn't an issue and to suggest a web page uses half a gig of RAM is hilarious.
True and wrong. I agree that NOW 512 MB are probably sufficient. As were 256 MB in the iPad 1 when it came out. Nevertheless, the iPad 1 was underpowered right from the start, and starting probably with iOS4, it has all kinds of apps crashing, including Safari, Youtube, App Store as native apps, plus lots of third-party aps. So apparently even Apple misudnerstands memory management.
I think, as long as iOS essentially remains what it is, 512 MB will probably sufficient in most cases. But once it gets a little more interactive (such as webOS, Win8 or Android), those 512MB will have the mini crash all the time, too. Which will likely be the case starting with iOS 8 or one year and a half from now.
Nevertheless, I will probably get an iPad mini to replace my iPad 1.
apple really needs Samsung's expertise. For all the bitching and moaning by some that they would never buy a Samsung product, because Samsung is some sort of evil incarnate of a company, and for all the prognostications that Apple will drop Samsung and somehow leave them high and dry, it seems that Apple needs Samsung. Without Samsung, Apple would be in big trouble.
Nobody has the expertise of Samsung. Nobody compares.
True and wrong. I agree that NOW 512 MB are probably sufficient. As were 256 MB in the iPad 1 when it came out. Nevertheless, the iPad 1 was underpowered right from the start, and starting probably with iOS4, it has all kinds of apps crashing, including Safari, Youtube, App Store as native apps, plus lots of third-party aps. So apparently even Apple misudnerstands memory management.
I think, as long as iOS essentially remains what it is, 512 MB will probably sufficient in most cases. But once it gets a little more interactive (such as webOS, Win8 or Android), those 512MB will have the mini crash all the time, too. Which will likely be the case starting with iOS 8 or one year and a half from now.
Nevertheless, I will probably get an iPad mini to replace my iPad 1.
...has all kinds of apps crashing, including Safari, Youtube, App Store as native apps, plus lots of third-party aps. So apparently even Apple misudnerstands memory management.
The biggest issue has always been NeXT's object reference counting memory management system... which was necessary once upon a time as a means of making sure the object you need doesn't get released from memory by someone else before you're done with it.
Most of this leakage is under control now with ARC (Automatic Reference Counting), however developers are still free to allocate memory directly from the system which cannot be tracked by ARC..
Also with Cocoa, the system can and will send messages to an app to release non critical memory (objects) if the available memory is hitting a certain low threshold. If the developer ignores these messages, then the system will just kill the app.
So the previous poster was correct, it is due to sloppy programming (including Apple) that usually causes programs to "crash".
Also with Cocoa, the system can and will send messages to an app to release non critical memory (objects) if the available memory is hitting a certain low threshold. If the developer ignores these messages, then the system will just kill the app.
It needn't have been like this if only they hadn't copied everything even down to the packaging so closely. They must have realised it would piss apple off, even Google warned them not to do it. They have good product anyway and didn't need to do that. Samsung are no where near the best they just have the high volume low cost production facilities that Apple have required.
If apple didnt cheap out and give you 512 orginally, your ipad wouldnt be working so slow.
So is the US court system, it seems.
LOL... You obviously don't understand how much Apple desperately needs Samsung.
The poor quality retina display on the macbook pro is testament to LG's pathetic engineering talent.
Yeah, I'm sure Apple picked Samsung's screens on the ipad mini as a way to "transition away from them sooner or later," LOL...
And you're apparently underestimating Samsung. Both those companies are mini Samsungs that are incapable of providing high quality products in vast numbers as Samsung does.
I laughed so hard when seeing the title, so whenever iPeople hate Samsung or not, their money still go to Samsung.
I'm not suggesting that 512MB is enough RAM forever, no amount of RAM will be enough forever. The point I'm making is currently it's fine and yes at some point it will start to struggle as will any older technology. What I don't get is people coming onto a forum and start dissing something for the sake of dissing it.
Unless something is specced up to the hilt they don't seem to be interested so it must be sh**!
If the iPad Mini lasts the user a year or so then great, you can't sit there waiting for the next revision every time otherwise you'd never end up buying anything.
Yup, and that's why Apple went to Samsung AGAIN! bwahahahahah
What do you mean no one could? The reason why no other phone had that level of pixel density was because the iPhone 4S had a puny 3.5" screen specifically designed for preteen girls.
That news was found to be a hoax. Nice try.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...report-of-terminating-lcd-shipments-to-apple/
You can't get a higher quality screen anywhere else.
LOLOLOLOLOL...
No, omg... no.
TSMC and Digital Foundries are #1 and #2 for semiconductor foundries. Do you know what a foundry is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundry
The #1 semiconductor business in the world is intel followed by Samsung.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_sales_leaders_by_year
What does it matter to you if Samsung bribes South Korean politicians? It doesn't affect you.
given Apple's rapid release schedule
You see, the point is that what you encountered wasn't wide-spread as the LG retina display fiasco.
Yup, and screen size plays a major role in it. Don't be mad you bought a toy meant for little girls.
And look where it got them with the retina macbook pro.
That's why Apple is using Samsung again for the iPad mini.
*sigh*
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...apples-enemy-samsung-20121101,0,6988602.story
According to IHS, The Galaxy S3's screen to superior.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57524291-37/color-me-prettier-galaxy-s3-display-outdoes-iphone-5s/
Apparently, they can't. Apple is still relying on Samsung for the A5 processor in the iPad mini.
So why do you buy Apple products? Aren't you helping the evil, monster that is Samsung?
Never mind that. How about those iproducts made from Chinese children? Apple isn't a saint.
I really wish it didn't.
They aren't a nice company.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/12/10/us-korea-samsung-idUSSEO889720071210
http://www.kernelmag.com/features/report/3028/samsung-power-corruption-and-lies/
Literally "too big to fail" and corrupt to the core.
lol do you honestly care?
Please respond from the iPad and iPhone that was made by kids for pennies a day.
As for China, EVERYONE manufacturers there - even Samsung (http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/09/05/tech-samsung-labour.html). Apple is at least making an effort to audit them to keep them honest.
What we're complaining about is the the 7 month old 'obsolete' ipad 3 with 1 gb of ram will have a longer shelf life and will run apps much better in 2 years than the ipad mini which isn't even out yet. That's the travesty. Apple could've easily put the iphone 5's A6 in the mini for only a few $ more than the ancient A5.
I was going to get a 'loaded to the hilt' 64 LTE Mini, but given Apple's rapid release schedule, I hedged my bets with the cheapest $329 model which will take the smallest hit on re-sale.
Isn't it crazy that Apple is still working with Samsung??
The answer is yes.
For what, most pointless comment of the thread?
I had a GS1 phone that had a dead pixel after 3 days of use. Testament to Samsung's pathetic engineering talent AMIRITE?
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