its in stock because anyone who cared about a pricey computer with retina display already shed over 2000 on a 15 inch, and didnt complain about that price because id say its pretty damn fair. - myself included
Not to mention it's crippled by the usual 13" issues: dual core, integrated GPU, miniscule storage, and a pathetic RAM limit. Why Apple won't allow you to spec it up to match a 15" is beyond me.
That's a lot of Jobs. The overseas manufacturing can be looked past considering how many people are putting food on the table because of Apple products.
- bubble
- super-high expectations that weren't met
- executives got fired
So glad I saw two of these things coming and sold at $700
Good for you but as the saying goes, hindsight is always 20/20. If you want to get lucky again, now is a good buying opportunity.
Let's suppose Apple was a company that was not growing, but simply maintaining current market. At a PE of 13 and a dividend of 1.8%, it would be considered a solid buy. But Apple is not stagnating. They are continuing to grow. Though they are not doubling year-over-year like they were before, they're still growing earnings about 30% YOY. To not consider the stock a buy, you'd have to believe that earnings would shrink in the coming year or two. Not just grow more slowly, but actually shrink. Considering that earnings have exploded in the past few years during a craptastic economy, and despite the continuing economic crisis in Europe, what do you think is going to happen when the economy actually turns around?Apple does not get high PE because there is a lot of question about how Apple will do as they replace their product line over time with more and more expensive device. It will hit the gross margin with no mercy...
$952,000,000 on Research & Development...
Let's suppose Apple was a company that was not growing, but simply maintaining current market. At a PE of 13 and a dividend of 1.8%, it would be considered a solid buy. But Apple is not stagnating. They are continuing to grow. Though they are not doubling year-over-year like they were before, they're still growing earnings about 30% YOY. To not consider the stock a buy, you'd have to believe that earnings would shrink in the coming year or two. Not just grow more slowly, but actually shrink. Considering that earnings have exploded in the past few years during a craptastic economy, and despite the continuing economic crisis in Europe, what do you think is going to happen when the economy actually turns around?
" As this document is designed mainly for prospective and current investors in the company, Apple also lists a number of risk factors that could affect investments in the company. These include "[Apple] could be found to have infringed on intellectual property rights", the ability to "successfully manage frequent product introductions and transitions", "the Company's ability to obtain components in sufficient quantities", and numerous more."
The bold parts are scary.
how many of these are in China? Computers are made in China, US gets only service, communication, shipping jobs and some design.
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What models and when they are made???
I was surprised at that! It seems strangely honest for a corp like Apple to advertise vulnerabilities And
potential weakness like that!
its in stock because anyone who cared about a pricey computer with retina display already shed over 2000 on a 15 inch, and didnt complain about that price because id say its pretty damn fair. - myself included
You think $1699 for a 8GB 128GB SSD laptop is reasonable? HOLY CRAP!
A low P/E ratio of 13.48 and a current market price of 595.32 is not a bubble. If you want a bubble, look at AMZN with a P/E ratio of 3,112.71 and a current stock price of 232.89 as of market close on 10/31. I attribute the recent selloff to three factors, 1) profit taking, 2) overall market conditions, 3) market panic and fear.
I agree with the super-high expectations not being met. However, those expectations were from the street and not in-line with reality and Apple's own guidance. The only people who know Apple is well, Apple.
The execs getting fired is far more minuscule compared to Jobs stepping down over a year ago. The day Jobs stepped down as CEO, AAPL was down $50 in the after market and recovered in days.
Either Apple customers are all suckers or they do see enough value in Apple stuff that make them willing to pay more for them.
I don't know if you have taken any economic class in high school or college. You can price a mechandize at any price, the key is to find out the demand at that price. As a business you try to maximize the profit by running different pricing scenario. At higher price,they will sell less units but each unit will have more profit. At lower price, they will sell more but each unit will carry less profit. All the Android maker, including Samsung, would love to price their product at the saem level as Apple. The only trouble is that if they do, the sales volume will drop off to an unacceptable level. Asus indicated that Nexus 7 is selling around 1m unit a month rate at 199 starting price. Can you imagine how many unit will they sell if the same Nexus is priced at $329 like Apple???
Apple price their mechandize high because they have enough customers that are willing to pay for them. Either Apple customers are all suckers or they do see enough value in Apple stuff that make them willing to pay more for them.
Thanks for the unneeded economics class. You might want to focus on reading comprehension. I never said it wasn't financially the right price for Apple. I just said the laptop is NOT worth even close to $1699. All you need is google and a web browser to figure that out online. Similar laptops with super hi-res screens are in the $1000-$1200 range with twice the SSD Space or more.
Apple customers are suckers to a certain extent but then it's not exactly a moral issue that Apple have to adress. They're perfectly within their rights to say 'if you can't afford it. Tough.' I'd love a Mac but their ridiculously expensive compared to Windows PC's. I blame Microsoft. If they hadn't flooded the market with cheap Windows computers then there'd be more choice and Apple wouldn't so easily be able to exploit people who don't want a Windows PC.
I am not sure I understand what you trying to get at.. You almost make it sound like consumer are stupid and didn't know how to spend their money wisely. I bet to differ. Apple target the higher earner and get what the high income folk need in a laptop. And hence they have a bunch of royal follower. I use Window laptop myself and I have no problem on someone who like Mac better and willing to spend more money. Why should you?
Becsause basically I think Apple are being greedy charging nearly 3 times as much for a Macbook compared to some Windows laptops that can do pretty much the same thing. If there was a more diverse range of computers out there so people didn't just have one alternative to Windowsmthen Apple probably would have to sell Macs at a more reasonable price because there'd be a more comptetiitive market. Apple couldnt put so high a premium on Mac's...and I'd go that extra mile to buy one. As it is I'm going to have to go that extra 2 or 3 miles and resent it. Apple are free to target the higher earners and I'm free to be narked about it!
yes, of course you are free to nark about their practice. But charging what the market will bear is the foundation of capitalism. And that is how our economy is builded on.
. Apple take advantage of that and make people pay through the nose for a computer that had hardware appeal.
. Apple take advantage of that and make people pay through the nose for a computer that had hardware appeal.
I do.