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Dan in VA

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Oct 9, 2012
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW-MWvE6HxE

I just got my new Mac Mini Server 2012 this evening (Halloween) and I took this quick video with my iPhone (view in HD to read the text more easily).

The Mac Mini comes with 2 x 256 SSD (SM256E) from Apple and 16GB of 1600 MHz DD3 RAM from OWC.

I formatted the SSDs, put them into a RAID 0 configuration, and installed Mountain Lion Server. Updated to 10.8.2 and then took this video.

As you can see from the benchmarks below, it's pretty darn good. :)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks
 

Dan in VA

macrumors member
Original poster
Oct 9, 2012
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Hardware Overview:

Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: Macmini6,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 16 GB
Boot ROM Version: MM61.0106.B00
SMC Version (system): 2.8f0

Intel HD Graphics 4000:

Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics 4000
Type: GPU
Bus: Built-In
VRAM (Total): 768 MB
Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
Device ID: 0x0166
Revision ID: 0x0009
Displays:
PIONEER-M:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported

Memory Slots:

ECC: Disabled

BANK 0/DIMM0:

Size: 8 GB
Type: DDR3
Speed: 1600 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x857F
Part Number: 0x483634314755363747313630304700000000
Serial Number: 0x00000000

BANK 1/DIMM0:

Size: 8 GB
Type: DDR3
Speed: 1600 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x857F
Part Number: 0x483634314755363747313630304700000000
Serial Number: 0x00000000

Intel 7 Series Chipset:

Vendor: Intel
Product: 7 Series Chipset
Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.30 Supported

APPLE SSD SM256E:

Capacity: 251 GB (251,000,193,024 bytes)
Model: APPLE SSD SM256E
Revision: CXM09A1Q
Serial Number: S0X7NYAC700520
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk0
Medium Type: Solid State
TRIM Support: Yes
Bay Name: Lower
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
disk0s1:
Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name: disk0s1
Content: EFI
disk0s2:
Capacity: 250.66 GB (250,656,219,136 bytes)
BSD Name: disk0s2
Content: Apple_RAID
Boot OS X:
Capacity: 134.2 MB (134,217,728 bytes)
BSD Name: disk0s3
Content: Apple_Boot
Volume UUID: 48B2B056-E45D-3A9B-883E-3BD184E9D32C

APPLE SSD SM256E:

Capacity: 251 GB (251,000,193,024 bytes)
Model: APPLE SSD SM256E
Revision: CXM09A1Q
Serial Number: S0X7NYAC607607
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk1
Medium Type: Solid State
TRIM Support: Yes
Bay Name: Upper
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
disk1s1:
Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name: disk1s1
Content: EFI
disk1s2:
Capacity: 250.66 GB (250,656,219,136 bytes)
BSD Name: disk1s2
Content: Apple_RAID
Boot OS X:
Capacity: 134.2 MB (134,217,728 bytes)
BSD Name: disk1s3
Content: Apple_Boot
Volume UUID: 192E174E-6EAE-3B1F-AFC5-9C708E03A4F3

USB Hi-Speed Bus:

Host Controller Location: Built-in USB
Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBEHCI
PCI Device ID: 0x1e26
PCI Revision ID: 0x0004
PCI Vendor ID: 0x8086
Bus Number: 0x1d

Hub:

Product ID: 0x0024
Vendor ID: 0x8087 (Intel Corporation)
Version: 0.00
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Location ID: 0x1d100000 / 2
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 0

Hub:

Product ID: 0x2512
Vendor ID: 0x0424 (SMSC)
Version: b.b3
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Location ID: 0x1d180000 / 3
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 2

BRCM20702 Hub:

Product ID: 0x4500
Vendor ID: 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.)
Version: 1.00
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: 0x1d181000 / 5
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 94

Bluetooth USB Host Controller:

Product ID: 0x828a
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 0.32
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: 0x1d181300 / 8
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 0

IR Receiver:

Product ID: 0x8242
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 1.00
Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple, Inc.
Location ID: 0x1d182000 / 4
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 100
 

philipma1957

macrumors 603
Apr 13, 2010
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Howell, New Jersey
More memory won't improve GB performance score.

this.


in fact the correct 4 gb sticks might give a better score since the timing could be tighter a 9 vs a 10 the timing on the 8gb sticks may even be 11. what 16 gb sticks will do is allow ram abusive programs to run quicker.

still it is amazing that the new mini is faster then a mac pro is if you are doing handbrake encodes. a 2012 quad mac pro is lucky to score 11000 while the mid with the 2.6 gets over 13000 truly impressive cpu power.
 

Dan in VA

macrumors member
Original poster
Oct 9, 2012
41
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I'm jealous of my 11 year old daughter who will be getting this computer. lol

It's 4 times faster than her 2010 Mac Mini (which becomes my media center computer, which replaces my 2007 Mac Mini previously in that role).
 

ctyrider

macrumors 65816
Jul 15, 2012
1,025
591
this.

in fact the correct 4 gb sticks might give a better score since the timing could be tighter

Exactly right. My Mini was scoring slightly higher with 2x4GB sticks, before I upgraded to 2x8GB


I'm jealous of my 11 year old daughter who will be getting this computer. lol

Nice.. Can you adapt me? ;) I think your score just convinced me to upgrade my 2011 Mini, which Geekbenches at around 7,500.
 

fig

macrumors 6502a
Jun 13, 2012
916
84
Austin, TX
Very cool, this is pretty much the exact set up I'm considering so great to see such awesome performance. Thanks for the vid!
 

oYx

macrumors regular
Sep 2, 2007
192
3
London
does the ssd contribute to the score?

thinking of getting the 2.6 with just one ssd.
 
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Dan in VA

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Oct 9, 2012
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The dual SSD in RAID 0 probably contributes to the score nominally.

This Mini will be connected to a 6TB LaCie 2Big thunderbolt drive that I'm running JBOD 3TB + 3TB (Media storage, backups). The Video goes to an HDMI active mirror sending 1080P to my daughter's Samsung Monitor and 1080p to her Samsung TV. That worked best of all the arrangements I tested. Thus she can sit on her bed with a bullettrain or at her desk. http://bullettrain.com/express.html

The internal Samsung SSDs are pretty damn fast all on their own. I wanted to make sure the parts were covered under AppleCare and didn't want to perform surgery on this brand new computer (don't want to assume the risk). (As an aside, I just got a 2010 Mac Mini DVD drive replaced under AppleCare, and I have a 2011 iMac that's having its hard drive replaced under the recall. AppleCare is worth it.)

One thing to note with the server, doing RAID gets rid of any recovery disk. You can't install via a Mountain Lion thumb drive (won't boot off one created from MBP or MBA). Nor can you download it from the app store and create one (says it's not compatible).

You have to use Internet Recovery which takes 3-5 minutes to load for me. It works fine.
 
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iamthedudeman

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The dual SSD in RAID 0 probably contributes to the score nominally.

This Mini will be connected to a 6TB LaCie 2Big thunderbolt drive that I'm running JBOD 3TB + 3TB (Media storage, backups). The Video goes to an HDMI active mirror sending 1080P to my daughter's Samsung Monitor and 1080p to her Samsung TV. That worked best of all the arrangements I tested. Thus she can sit on her bed with a bullettrain or at her desk. http://bullettrain.com/express.html

The internal Samsung SSDs are pretty damn fast all on their own. I wanted to make sure the parts were covered under AppleCare and didn't want to perform surgery on this brand new computer (don't want to assume the risk). (As an aside, I just got a 2010 Mac Mini DVD drive replaced under AppleCare, and I have a 2011 iMac that's having its hard drive replaced under the recall. AppleCare is worth it.)

One thing to note with the server, doing RAID gets rid of any recovery disk. You can't install via a Mountain Lion thumb drive (won't boot off one created from MBP or MBA). Nor can you download it from the app store and create one (says it's not compatible).

You have to use Internet Recovery which takes 3-5 minutes to load for me. It works fine.

I don't think Raid, had anything to do with the score.

I have the same setup but with only one Apple SSD, a 2.6 with 16Gb of ram. I got a slightly better score than you.
 

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Dan in VA

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Oct 9, 2012
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You are the dude, man.

I didn't run multiple tests to get a favorable variance. It fluctuates.

In theory, all other things being equal, SSD RAID 0 should speed disk IO tests.
 

iamthedudeman

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Jul 7, 2007
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You are the dude, man.

I didn't run multiple tests to get a favorable variance. It fluctuates.

In theory, all other things being equal, SSD RAID 0 should speed disk IO tests.

You are right RAID is faster than a single SSD, no doubt.

No need to run multiple tests, they will not differ much from each other. I ran a few and I got around a 13100 average score. I ran them to optimize my memory, not to see how high of a score I can get.

Geekbench doesn't use the HD in determining the scores at all or very little. It's all CPU and memory, not your HD or SSD making the difference. Even though your computer is faster than a single SSD, geekbench doesn't take that into account. Mostly CPU and memory bound test.

Your raid setup will not produce a bigger score on geekbench. My Mini with SSD isn't any faster than a 2.6 Mini without. Faster ram will give you a better score more so than a SSD or raid setup.

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gabrielscindian

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Oct 29, 2012
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Awesome
Mine runs on the 30inch monitor
I use it to edit my 4k raw files

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: Macmini6,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 16 GB
Boot ROM Version: MM61.0106.B00
SMC Version (system): 2.8f0

Intel HD Graphics 4000:

Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics 4000
Type: GPU
Bus: Built-In
VRAM (Total): 768 MB
Vendor: Intel (0x8086)
Device ID: 0x0166
Revision ID: 0x0009
Displays:
PIONEER-M:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported

Memory Slots:

ECC: Disabled

BANK 0/DIMM0:

Size: 8 GB
Type: DDR3
Speed: 1600 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x857F
Part Number: 0x483634314755363747313630304700000000
Serial Number: 0x00000000

BANK 1/DIMM0:

Size: 8 GB
Type: DDR3
Speed: 1600 MHz
Status: OK
Manufacturer: 0x857F
Part Number: 0x483634314755363747313630304700000000
Serial Number: 0x00000000

Intel 7 Series Chipset:

Vendor: Intel
Product: 7 Series Chipset
Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 6 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.30 Supported

APPLE SSD SM256E:

Capacity: 251 GB (251,000,193,024 bytes)
Model: APPLE SSD SM256E
Revision: CXM09A1Q
Serial Number: S0X7NYAC700520
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk0
Medium Type: Solid State
TRIM Support: Yes
Bay Name: Lower
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
disk0s1:
Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name: disk0s1
Content: EFI
disk0s2:
Capacity: 250.66 GB (250,656,219,136 bytes)
BSD Name: disk0s2
Content: Apple_RAID
Boot OS X:
Capacity: 134.2 MB (134,217,728 bytes)
BSD Name: disk0s3
Content: Apple_Boot
Volume UUID: 48B2B056-E45D-3A9B-883E-3BD184E9D32C

APPLE SSD SM256E:

Capacity: 251 GB (251,000,193,024 bytes)
Model: APPLE SSD SM256E
Revision: CXM09A1Q
Serial Number: S0X7NYAC607607
Native Command Queuing: Yes
Queue Depth: 32
Removable Media: No
Detachable Drive: No
BSD Name: disk1
Medium Type: Solid State
TRIM Support: Yes
Bay Name: Upper
Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified
Volumes:
disk1s1:
Capacity: 209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name: disk1s1
Content: EFI
disk1s2:
Capacity: 250.66 GB (250,656,219,136 bytes)
BSD Name: disk1s2
Content: Apple_RAID
Boot OS X:
Capacity: 134.2 MB (134,217,728 bytes)
BSD Name: disk1s3
Content: Apple_Boot
Volume UUID: 192E174E-6EAE-3B1F-AFC5-9C708E03A4F3

USB Hi-Speed Bus:

Host Controller Location: Built-in USB
Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBEHCI
PCI Device ID: 0x1e26
PCI Revision ID: 0x0004
PCI Vendor ID: 0x8086
Bus Number: 0x1d

Hub:

Product ID: 0x0024
Vendor ID: 0x8087 (Intel Corporation)
Version: 0.00
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Location ID: 0x1d100000 / 2
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 0

Hub:

Product ID: 0x2512
Vendor ID: 0x0424 (SMSC)
Version: b.b3
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Location ID: 0x1d180000 / 3
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 2

BRCM20702 Hub:

Product ID: 0x4500
Vendor ID: 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.)
Version: 1.00
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: 0x1d181000 / 5
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 94

Bluetooth USB Host Controller:

Product ID: 0x828a
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 0.32
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
Location ID: 0x1d181300 / 8
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 0

IR Receiver:

Product ID: 0x8242
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 1.00
Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple, Inc.
Location ID: 0x1d182000 / 4
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 100
 

strwrsfrk

macrumors regular
Mar 1, 2011
245
15
Arlington, VA, USA
The dual SSD in RAID 0 probably contributes to the score nominally.

Would you mind running Blackmagic Disk Speed Test to give us a feel for how Apple's SSDs do in RAID? If you're not familiar with the program, it's free on the App Store.

For those of us considering non-Apple SSDs for a similar setup, this would be incredibly helpful. Thanks in advance!

in fact the correct 4 gb sticks might give a better score since the timing could be tighter a 9 vs a 10 the timing on the 8gb sticks may even be 11. what 16 gb sticks will do is allow ram abusive programs to run quicker.

Accurate. But for those who are adventurous enough to try it, here is 2x8GB DDR3-1600 204-pin RAM from Newegg rated at 9-9-9-27: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104317 There are no reviews yet regarding its performance on a Mac, but it's still only 1/2 the price of what Apple charges for RAM.
 
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iamthedudeman

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Jul 7, 2007
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I ran geekbench to see if the program 'imemory' from the app store which it clears up your avail ram at intervals you set it at. I was trying to determine if setting it at to run twice a day would speed up my computer at all.

Seems it does, a little. My geekbench score is the second fastest on the site(geekbench). The only other one faster is a Mini that uses faster ram over 1800. So the program works as intended.
 

MJL

macrumors 6502a
Jun 25, 2011
845
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW-MWvE6HxE

I just got my new Mac Mini Server 2012 this evening (Halloween) and I took this quick video with my iPhone (view in HD to read the text more easily).

The Mac Mini comes with 2 x 256 SSD (SM256E) from Apple and 16GB of 1600 MHz DD3 RAM from OWC.

I formatted the SSDs, put them into a RAID 0 configuration, and installed Mountain Lion Server. Updated to 10.8.2 and then took this video.

As you can see from the benchmarks below, it's pretty darn good. :)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks

Impressive but I am interested in another benchmark: How high does the temperature run up to and what is the fan speed when you have 100% CPU utilisation? Thanks.
 

philipma1957

macrumors 603
Apr 13, 2010
6,367
251
Howell, New Jersey
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Accurate. But for those who are adventurous enough to try it, here is 2x8GB DDR3-1600 204-pin RAM from Newegg rated at 9-9-9-27: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104317 There are no reviews yet regarding its performance on a Mac, but it's still only 1/2 the price of what Apple charges for RAM.

I am waiting for a price drop on that ram.



to mjl


Impressive but I am interested in another benchmark: How high does the temperature run up to and what is the fan speed when you have 100% CPU utilisation? Thanks.

cpu test results. as you can see the cpu can not be cooled at top speeds of 100% forcing the cpu to downclock.

so basically you are not getting full use of the cpu and apple has failed to provide proper cooling for your 2012 mini.


proper cooling would allow the mini 's cpu to run at 100% endlessly.


just think if they made the machine 1 inch taller with a better heatsink and a better fan but no.

they don't oh well. so once again function follows form well that is apple for you.
 

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analogkid

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Jun 9, 2003
109
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Savannah
Hey Dan! You broke your trim when you set your raid up. I don't know if that bothers you. The only solutuion I found was Softraid, which is somewhat expensive, but that's what I used for my dual 830 Server.
 
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