Can we expect that the 2.3 will run cooler?cpu test results. as you can see the cpu can not be cooled at top speeds of 100% forcing the cpu to downclock.
Can we expect that the 2.3 will run cooler?cpu test results. as you can see the cpu can not be cooled at top speeds of 100% forcing the cpu to downclock.
Can we expect that the 2.3 will run cooler?
How about a Handbrake benchmark to show what the real world performance loss is?if you are a cpu freak ie handbrake users
you will over heat the mini and throttle the cpu down to 60%-80%.
the test was on a 2012 quad with 8gb ram (kingston plug n play)
it ran 8 cores at 100% and top fan speed of 5500 rpm was preset.
in under 5 minutes the cpu got so hot it had to throttle down to 65% - 95%..
my room temp is 78 C.
what it means you are being cheated full use of the cpu in a 2012 quad core
mini.
this is the test
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/23935/cputest
it is a standard cpu load test.
if you are a cpu freak ie handbrake users
you will over heat the mini and throttle the cpu down to 60%-80%.
I will f around a bit to find a fix. all fixes will involve
A] lifting mini
B] remove black cover add a fan
C] turn mini on its side remove cover add a fan
I would argue that Apple should be forced to refund some money to all 2012 quad mini owners due to improper cooling.
Kind of selling us a porsche with an engine that goes up to 200, but it has a throttle and not telling you the car can't run top speed for more then 2 or 3 minutes before the throttle kicks in.
But Hey who am I to say this is illegal and theft of performance or at least false advertisement.
So since I am not a lawyer I am not saying you can sue or ask for a refund.
the test was on a 2012 quad with 8gb ram (kingston plug n play)
it ran 8 cores at 100% and top fan speed of 5500 rpm was preset.
in under 5 minutes the cpu got so hot it had to throttle down to 65% - 95%..
my room temp is 78 C.
what it means you are being cheated full use of the cpu in a 2012 quad core
mini.
this is the test
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/23935/cputest
it is a standard cpu load test.
if you are a cpu freak ie handbrake users
you will over heat the mini and throttle the cpu down to 60%-80%.
I will f around a bit to find a fix. all fixes will involve
A] lifting mini
B] remove black cover add a fan
C] turn mini on its side remove cover add a fan
I would argue that Apple should be forced to refund some money to all 2012 quad mini owners due to improper cooling.
Kind of selling us a porsche with an engine that goes up to 200, but it has a throttle and not telling you the car can't run top speed for more then 2 or 3 minutes before the throttle kicks in.
But Hey who am I to say this is illegal and theft of performance or at least false advertisement.
So since I am not a lawyer I am not saying you can sue or ask for a refund.
cpu test results. as you can see the cpu can not be cooled at top speeds of 100% forcing the cpu to downclock.
so basically you are not getting full use of the cpu and apple has failed to provide proper cooling for your 2012 mini.
proper cooling would allow the mini 's cpu to run at 100% endlessly.
I will f around a bit to find a fix. all fixes will involve
A] lifting mini
B] remove black cover add a fan
C] turn mini on its side remove cover add a fan
All the CPU's are running (per iStat Menu). User CPU is at 88 percent. The CPU temp is 99-degrees C. Exhaust fan is 5497 RPM.
Meaning you're not using the 100% of it. Actual time loss? Can't really tell, but I have to admit it's pretty annoying.
Meaning that there is CPU left over for system processes, Safari, iTunes, mail, and so on. Looks good to these eyes.
You're missing the point. You can't get the CPU to its full potential as it will throttle itself in order to keep temps down.
If you're fine with that then I won't be the one telling you otherwise.
You're missing the point. You don't want a CPU running at 100 percent for a single process. There is a system to run, and the CPU must share its resources.
You do understand that the CPU goes down to 80% not to let you use the other 20% but to lower the temps, right?
I dont want to have jetplane-sounding mini on my desk :/
okay let me be clear. this issue occurs on high cpu use programs such as handbrake. getting your computer to push 8 cores at 80% or more is really not done often.
but if you have this pushing 1000 dvds in a month long effort of handbrake you are being ripped off a bit as the computer will throttle the cpu so it does not burn up.
this is okay if you tell the buyer that you can not run the cpu at top speed because we made the machine too small to cool properly.
that said I would think under 5% of users are getting ripped off since most users don't run 10 hours a day of handbrake.
here is a passive cooling idea. I use it for my very hot cable box.
Just had to register for this.
This is a huge thing, and i dont dare do buy a mini right now!
Has someone here talked to apple about this issue? Have they put a little bit too much in the mini shell?
I dont want to have jetplane-sounding mini on my desk :/
And i cant believe you guys talking about modding for better cooling, if you bought a new computer it should work perfect out of the box.
I've been doing HB for for over 18 hours with CPU pushing 95 - 100% per core: 1080P, h264. Temp hasn't eclipsed 90°C. No special modifications, no throttling no nothing other than a machine that is an incredible speed improvement over the 2.0 i7 server.
There are no issues with temp and I would not suggest anybody will be ripped off. For people that feel it's necessary to utilize other cooling ideas, it's a free world, but not necessary.
What room temp do you have? I checked someone else's Mini and does the same thing, plus the ones who posted in this thread.
You gotta be doing something different, as everyone seems to get 95ºC-105ºC in high CPU loads.
It's currently 22°C, down to about 18°C at night.
Why do you think your machine is coping with Handbrake with no throttling back while a couple of others are seeing their machines get too hot doing the same thing? My main reason for wanting to upgrade is to speed up Handbrake.I've been doing HB for for over 18 hours with CPU pushing 95 - 100% per core: 1080P, h264. Temp hasn't eclipsed 90°C. No special modifications, no throttling no nothing other than a machine that is an incredible speed improvement over the 2.0 i7 server.
Why do you think your machine is coping with Handbrake with no throttling back while a couple of others are seeing their machines get too hot doing the same thing? My main reason for wanting to upgrade is to speed up Handbrake.
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Why do you think your machine is coping with Handbrake with no throttling back while a couple of others are seeing their machines get too hot doing the same thing? My main reason for wanting to upgrade is to speed up Handbrake.