iPad 4 Vs Nexus 10

I think the 7 is an excellent tablet and a great value.

I'm not convinced the 10 is as good a value, and no one except reviewers have used one yet. I'd wait a bit or just buy the iPad 4, which is a known quantity.

Don't get me wrong - I think the 10 is going to be a very nice tablet, with left and right speakers (much better for movie use) and some other perks, but... overall, while I can easily recommend the 7, I can't as easily recommend the 10 over the iPad 4. It's not much cheaper, and it's the first generation.

"better" is a subjective term. The right choice is whatever works for YOU. There are millions of people so heavily invested in iOS apps that it doesnt matter what the competition puts out, they are only interested in i devices. Same can be said for Android. The thing that makes the Nexus 7 or 10 difficult is that you cannot walk into a store and try them out. Not too many people are willing to put out hundreds of dollars for a product they have never touched. Maybe wait for a friend to get a Nexus and try it out.

michaeljohn said:

The thing that makes the Nexus 7 or 10 difficult is that you cannot walk into a store and try them out. Not too many people are willing to put out hundreds of dollars for a product they have never touched. Maybe wait for a friend to get a Nexus and try it out.

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It might be different for where you are

Here in the UK the Nexus 7 is available in stores so people can try it out, don't know about the 10, but have no reason to believe it wont be the same

AT101ET said:

My main uses are films, games, app usage and web browsing...
I personally like the simplicity of IOS but am willing to try android.

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Unsure on the 10 as it's just new, but if it works as well as the 7 then it should be a very nice machine

films work very nicely, but if you have ones bought from itunes then there could be issues with drm
check the games/apps on the play store, some things are missing but there is usually an alternative

the nexus line can be as simple as you want them to be
when first used, enter your google id, this will set it up for you
then go to the play store, download an app and just select it on your home screen the same as iOS

michaeljohn said:

"better" is a subjective term. The right choice is whatever works for YOU. There are millions of people so heavily invested in iOS apps that it doesnt matter what the competition puts out, they are only interested in i devices. Same can be said for Android. The thing that makes the Nexus 7 or 10 difficult is that you cannot walk into a store and try them out. Not too many people are willing to put out hundreds of dollars for a product they have never touched. Maybe wait for a friend to get a Nexus and try it out.

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Office Depot, Staples, Walmart and many other electronics retailers carry the Nexus 7 and have them on display for you to try out.

It is true that Best Buy does not carry them, but they are around.

michaeljohn said:

"better" is a subjective term. The right choice is whatever works for YOU. There are millions of people so heavily invested in iOS apps that it doesnt matter what the competition puts out, they are only interested in i devices. Same can be said for Android. The thing that makes the Nexus 7 or 10 difficult is that you cannot walk into a store and try them out. Not too many people are willing to put out hundreds of dollars for a product they have never touched. Maybe wait for a friend to get a Nexus and try it out.

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paulsalter said:

It might be different for where you are

Here in the UK the Nexus 7 is available in stores so people can try it out, don't know about the 10, but have no reason to believe it wont be the same

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Not sure where michaeljohn lives but the Nexus 7 is also available in stores here in the US as well--bought mine at Staples and also see Walmart sells it. I'd guess we'll also see the Nexus 10 in stores at some point as well, if not at launch.

I own two iPad's and a Nexus 7. I would get an iPad 4 before I bought a Nexus 10. And I would get an N7 before buying an N10.

AT101ET said:

Hi,
Im thinking of getting a tablet soon. I currently have a 32GB iPod touch 5G.
I'm thinking of the iPad 4 32GB wifi only or the 32GB nexus 10.
My main uses are films, games, app usage and web browsing...
I personally like the simplicity of IOS but am willing to try android.
Is the nexus 10 better than the iPad in any other way besides the screen and price tag?
...
thanks

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Same here - still somewhat undecided between the iPad 4 and the Nexus 10 (both Wi-Fi, 32 GB). In terms of "raw" HW specs the Nexus 10 is more powerful (ARM A15 dual-core CPU vs. Apple's A6x, 2GB RAM vs. 1 GB RAM in the iPad 4), but this seems to be required to compensate for Android being less "efficient" than iOS (due to performance "issues" with the Java based OS and Apps in Android)

I tested an iPad 4 briefly today, and was quite impressed by its responsiveness, also when handling large images and PDF documents. What I didn't like was the black frame around upscaled iPhone apps, which fill the central 1920x1280 pixel of the display. Location services based on WiFi seem to be a good substitute for the lack of GPS (as long as there is some WiFi reception). Handling of the iPad 4 both in portrait and in landscape mode also felt nice, and it didn't seems to get warm or hot while in use.

What I like about the Nexus 10 is the inclusion of GPS, the better price point, the rubberized back, which promises better grip, and the mini USB port. With respect to Apps, it seems all the major ones I'm currently using on the iPhone are also available for Android (either the same or an equivalent). Wireless file transfer between devices (including my MacBook Air) promises to be easier than under iOS (more complete Bluetooth stack in Android). According to the technical specs, though, in portrait mode, the Nexus 10 screen is 1.5 cm narrower and 1.5 cm taller than the iPad screen. This might make it the less ideal device for web browsing and reading (in particular when dealing with PDF files).

I haven't tried the N10 yet obviously, but own an iPad 3 and an N7. I would say the N7 is as good as the iPad 3 in every way and better in some areas. Specifically, I love NFC and its file transfer capabilities, notification center, Google Now, the flexibility of the OS UI, true GPS with free offline map downloading and OTG USB which I use for media storage via micro SD and Ethernet. YES ETHERNET. Sometimes I go places where there is only wired internet (getting less common but still around) it is just awesome to pop in a micro usb Ethernet dongle and have access. You can also use OTG for USB game controllers, like xbox controllers, keyboards and mice if you prefer not to use BT. That level of flexibility is HUGE IMHO.

In that regard I would say the N10 should be as good as the iPad 4 in terms of screen and power, so then it really comes down to which OS you prefer. Both have strong and weak points.

The N10 should be in stores to demo, I was able to demo the N7 before buying and within 5 minutes I knew it was the right device...I still waited for the iPad mini to be announced, once it was, I went right to the store and picked up the N7.

The better performing product costs more. Apple puts more into their products than the opposing point of view acknowledges.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad-4-gpu-performance-analyzed-powervr-sgx-554mp4-under-the-hood

Wait for a good Windows 8 Pro tablet- split screen tablet apps, plus the ability to run any Windows desktop programs you want.

If you want one of those two, get the iPad. It's going to perform much more smoothly than the Nexus, plus there are far more apps optimised for the iPad. You're going to get a stack of apps on the Nexus that aren't optimised for that screen size or that resolution- text will probably be ok, but graphics and images aren't going to fare as well.

Technarchy said:

The better performing product costs more. Apple puts more into their products than the opposing point of view acknowledges.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad-4-gpu-performance-analyzed-powervr-sgx-554mp4-under-the-hood

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Sorry but the mali 604t is much faster than the 554mp4. Hand picking a specific benchmark vs a prerelease product is not a valid comparison. Its well documented that the prerelease builds that were handed out to reviewers of 4.2 had some major performance issues that will be fixed in the final build. The proof of this is apparant in this benchmark where the adreno 225 beats the adreno 320. The adreno 320 is several magnitudes faster than the 225.

Also notice how the optimus g with an identical soc does so much better than the nexus 4 with the same exact hardware. Wait for some proper builds of android 4.2 to be released. The benchmarks of the nexus 4 and nexus 10 are completely invalid.

Not to mention we know for a fact already that the cpu's in both the nexus 4 and nexus 10 wipe the floor with both the a6 and a6x.

blackhand1001 said:

Sorry but the mali 604t is much faster than the 554mp4. Hand picking a specific benchmark vs a prerelease product is not a valid comparison.

Not to mention we know for a fact already that the cpu's in both the nexus 4 and nexus 10 wipe the floor with both the a6 and a6x.

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Uh, hand-picking? Every benchmark, save for one, goes to the 554MP4. What world are you living in?

As well, I haven't seen the benchmarks that support your statement for the CPU's in the Nexus 4 and 10. I've seen ones where it goes back and forth, but they're all strictly web-based ones.

blackhand1001 said:

Sorry but the mali 604t is much faster than the 554mp4. Hand picking a specific benchmark vs a prerelease product is not a valid comparison. Its well documented that the prerelease builds that were handed out to reviewers of 4.2 had some major performance issues that will be fixed in the final build. The proof of this is apparant in this benchmark where the adreno 225 beats the adreno 320. The adreno 320 is several magnitudes faster than the 225. Image

Also notice how the optimus g with an identical soc does so much better than the nexus 4 with the same exact hardware. Wait for some proper builds of android 4.2 to be released. The benchmarks of the nexus 4 and nexus 10 are completely invalid.

Not to mention we know for a fact already that the cpu's in both the nexus 4 and nexus 10 wipe the floor with both the a6 and a6x.

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I would be very surprised if that fact were true that it would go unmentioned in Anandtech's review. They don't miss details like that. I suspect what we are seeing is the Nexus' chip struggling to push that many pixels and possibly some power-saving routines.

AT101ET said:

Hi,
Im thinking of getting a tablet soon. I currently have a 32GB iPod touch 5G.
I'm thinking of the iPad 4 32GB wifi only or the 32GB nexus 10.
My main uses are films, games, app usage and web browsing...
I personally like the simplicity of IOS but am willing to try android.
Is the nexus 10 better than the iPad in any other way besides the screen and price tag?

Also, how does the nexus 10 compare to its sister tablet the nexus 7?

thanks

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The Nexus 10 has a more powerful processor, but the iPad 4 has more powerful graphics, as well as a brighter display and from what I can tell so far, better battery life.

zhenya said:

I would be very surprised if that fact were true that it would go unmentioned in Anandtech's review. They don't miss details like that. I suspect what we are seeing is the Nexus' chip struggling to push that many pixels and possibly some power-saving routines.

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No its absolutely true. Just about every benchmark they ran came out dramatically low on both the nexus 4 and nexus 10. The proof is right in the fact that the nexus 4 scored about half as well as the identical optimus g in all the benchmarks.

For the full Nexus 4 and 10 performance review you can read all about it here.

From my perspective the performance matches the price.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review

blackhand1001 said:

No its absolutely true. Just about every benchmark they ran came out dramatically low on both the nexus 4 and nexus 10. The proof is right in the fact that the nexus 4 scored about half as well as the identical optimus g in all the benchmarks.

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Nevermind, I thought you said Nexus 10.

Get back to me when Anandtech verifies it.

What is a iPad 4? You talking about the iPad Mini?

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Technarchy said:

For the full Nexus 4 and 10 performance review you can read all about it here.

From my perspective the performance matches the price.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review

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I couldnt care less about benchmarks and there are many other reviews that test better than this one....and i dont mean bench marks. Just performance that they experienced.

Benchmarks are for geeks who care about numbers. I only care that everything loads fast and it zips around when im doing other things. Just dont care if another device is a millisecond or half second faster or slower.

I dont even know what most of those charts mean.

Vegastouch said:

What is a iPad 4?

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At the iPad mini event apple announced a full size iPad with a lighting connector, A6X chip and maybe some other stuff. It ... annoyed ... a lot of people.

I read somewhere that android handles resolution in a whole different way from the ipad and that all apps for Android will scale and display correctly on the 299 ppi screen of the nexus 10.
Is that true?
What are the differences in handling resolution between the ipad and nexus?
The ipad had that problem when the retina launched that apps had to be rewritten for retina.

Cheers

blackhand1001 said:

Sorry but the mali 604t is much faster than the 554mp4. Hand picking a specific benchmark vs a prerelease product is not a valid comparison. Its well documented that the prerelease builds that were handed out to reviewers of 4.2 had some major performance issues that will be fixed in the final build. The proof of this is apparant in this benchmark where the adreno 225 beats the adreno 320. The adreno 320 is several magnitudes faster than the 225. Image

Also notice how the optimus g with an identical soc does so much better than the nexus 4 with the same exact hardware. Wait for some proper builds of android 4.2 to be released. The benchmarks of the nexus 4 and nexus 10 are completely invalid.

Not to mention we know for a fact already that the cpu's in both the nexus 4 and nexus 10 wipe the floor with both the a6 and a6x.

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Source that the CPUs in the Nexus devices beat the A6?
And absolutely no benchmark out there shows the 604t beats the SGX 554mp4
Everything points to Google overestimating their ability to power that 300ppi screen. Much like Apple did with the iPad 3, albeit to a smaller extent.
show me

michaeljohn said:

"better" is a subjective term. The right choice is whatever works for YOU. There are millions of people so heavily invested in iOS apps that it doesnt matter what the competition puts out, they are only interested in i devices. Same can be said for Android. The thing that makes the Nexus 7 or 10 difficult is that you cannot walk into a store and try them out. Not too many people are willing to put out hundreds of dollars for a product they have never touched. Maybe wait for a friend to get a Nexus and try it out.

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Umm, staples and several other stores have demo units out that you can play with.

The iPad is still the king of the tablet world. The apps make the difference for me. I don't want to spend $3-400 on a tablet just to browse the web.