This is my initial thought as well, but then I see stuff in these two posts from this very thread that points to the possibility that aluminum failure can indeed occur on its own. The fact that Apple decided to use low tensile strength aluminum in this phone and that the location of the bend in the phones I've seen seem to be around the obvious weak spot near the volume buttons both have me thinking that the bend may not necessarily be caused by the users.
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This is my initial thought as well, but then I see stuff in these two posts from this very thread that points to the possibility that aluminum failure can indeed occur on its own. The fact that Apple decided to use low tensile strength aluminum in this phone and that the location of the bend in the phones I've seen seem to be around the obvious weak spot near the volume buttons both have me thinking that the bend may not necessarily be caused by the users.
I'm not an engineer but i did stay at a....never mind.
In all seriousness though I think there's an issue with reception when trying to use stainless steel
UPDATE:
finally had a chance to waste 2+hours of my time to travel almost 40 minutes away to get to an apple store. Very disappointing but not surprised by the outcome. Everyone there said this is the first time they have seen it (i dont believe it).
since i am 2-3 weeks past the ability to add applecare (you can add if up to 30 days after you bought the phone), i had to pay the price of $245 to have it replaced. Seriously! they could of made an exception and add the applecare for $99 and then i could of paid $49 to have the phone replaced. But no, add an extra $100 to the net worth of apple, hopefully that puts them over the 700 Billion marker.
I told him i wanted it noted on my account so that if this becomes an issue in the near future, i can try and get my $245 back. like that matters.
my final thoughts:
1. I am no longer an iPhone fan, or that fact an Apple fan.
2. I own an ipad 2 and when that becomes obsolete I will probably buy a computer/tablet all in one type deal. Its kind of ridiculous if you think about it, that you pay all this money for it and you cant do anything but install their apps. I want a USB and i want a hard drive that can read and write files. BOY ARE WE GULLIBLE
3. I will no longer try to convince non-iphone users to switch to the iPhone. And by my count i have probably referred and influenced over 70-100 people into switching (since the first phone came out 7 years ago). That will no longer be the case. I will tell them how horrible of a company Apple is and how they don't care about their customers and how the quality of the phone has gone down.
4. I will be hanging on to the iphone 5 for now, mainly because i want to wait for the galaxy 4 to come out in February (don't quote me there on the timeframe).
5. Hell!!! i am done with this
hopefully people keep posting pics of their bent iPhones here
finally had a chance to waste 2+hours of my time to travel almost 40 minutes away to get to an apple store. Very disappointing but not surprised by the outcome. Everyone there said this is the first time they have seen it (i dont believe it).
since i am 2-3 weeks past the ability to add applecare (you can add if up to 30 days after you bought the phone), i had to pay the price of $245 to have it replaced. Seriously! they could of made an exception and add the applecare for $99 and then i could of paid $49 to have the phone replaced. But no, add an extra $100 to the net worth of apple, hopefully that puts them over the 700 Billion marker.
I told him i wanted it noted on my account so that if this becomes an issue in the near future, i can try and get my $245 back. like that matters.
my final thoughts:
1. I am no longer an iPhone fan, or that fact an Apple fan.
2. I own an ipad 2 and when that becomes obsolete I will probably buy a computer/tablet all in one type deal. Its kind of ridiculous if you think about it, that you pay all this money for it and you cant do anything but install their apps. I want a USB and i want a hard drive that can read and write files. BOY ARE WE GULLIBLE
3. I will no longer try to convince non-iphone users to switch to the iPhone. And by my count i have probably referred and influenced over 70-100 people into switching (since the first phone came out 7 years ago). That will no longer be the case. I will tell them how horrible of a company Apple is and how they don't care about their customers and how the quality of the phone has gone down.
4. I will be hanging on to the iphone 5 for now, mainly because i want to wait for the galaxy 4 to come out in February (don't quote me there on the timeframe).
5. Hell!!! i am done with this
hopefully people keep posting pics of their bent iPhones here
You are 2-3 weeks past your applecare date... they give you 30 days to buy it from the start... and your mad that they didn't make an exemption for you. Your not special you know. What do you think the cutoff should be 30 days for the world but for you whenever?
Its really annoying to hear people complain about a very clear policy. you have 30 days to purchase not 31, 45, a million. You took a chance to save $99 and it cost you a extra $100. Lesson learned. Did u get applecare on your new phone? Probably not. Your Samsung phone will be waiting for you in the future. When you break that one without insurance come back and tell us how much they charged you to replace it.
Its really annoying to hear people complain about a very clear policy. you have 30 days to purchase not 31, 45, a million. You took a chance to save $99 and it cost you a extra $100. Lesson learned. Did u get applecare on your new phone? Probably not. Your Samsung phone will be waiting for you in the future. When you break that one without insurance come back and tell us how much they charged you to replace it.
I have to say I am with the OP on this one. Clearly some sort of design issue, which Apple will never own up to.
Apple has a history of this. Look up the iPod Nano (1st Gen) screen issues. You'd pull it out of your pocket and have a cracked screen.
There was the Nvidia graphic card issues as well. Same response.
Its rather funny as those iPod Nano owners got flammed in the same manner. Sucks to be those with bend issues.
Apple has a history of this. Look up the iPod Nano (1st Gen) screen issues. You'd pull it out of your pocket and have a cracked screen.
There was the Nvidia graphic card issues as well. Same response.
Its rather funny as those iPod Nano owners got flammed in the same manner. Sucks to be those with bend issues.
So the guy gets up from falling to the ground and rolling down the hill.
Reaches his back pocket for his iPhone only to find it was bent, and was never misused!
Reaches his back pocket for his iPhone only to find it was bent, and was never misused!
Well, I am an engineer, and have never imagined such silly and ridiculous assertions as some of those made in this thread.
Aluminum alloy does not visibly bend by itself, the temperatures needed to "soften" it would ignite the contents of the phone... I could go on, but the madness here just needs to stop.
If only honest people posted we would never see threads like this one.
Aluminum alloy does not visibly bend by itself, the temperatures needed to "soften" it would ignite the contents of the phone... I could go on, but the madness here just needs to stop.
If only honest people posted we would never see threads like this one.
Aluminum is generally a cheaper material vs. stainless steel, but is not necessarily an inferior substrate. Al is lighter, and is much easier to machine, leading to tighter tolerances.
I still remember all the fire against the iPhone 4 being a crystal sandwich, hence being "fragile as hell". Still the iPhone 4 proved to be (under normal use) much more durable than the 3GS.
Still my 3GS is working without issues after being backpacking Europe for a month with me (don't ask me how my P&S camera finished the trip....). My mom has an iPhone 4 which endured almost unavailable drops (it fell from her lap when getting out of her car, and slid for 50 meters down street), suffering only minor scratches on a side, and no damage in the screen from the slide. IMPRESSIVE for phones being less resistant in each iteration according to some.
I'm sure my iPhone 5 will be full of scratches in the back in no time. But at least for me is a fair trade for not having issues with cracks in the dock. For me functionality and resistance (overall resistance, not cosmetic persistence) is the utter most important thing in my day to day devices.
Stuff like what happened to the OP is an extreme case. As most of you, I agree that it suffered some sort of severe trauma. Nonetheless it is possible that out of the millions iPhones produced, one precise piece of metal had a thinner thickness and that it matched exactly with the weakest structural point in the iPhone. That argument obviously will fade as the occurrence of the same issue increase as it will be more probable that it is due to misuse. If the occurrence get insanely high then it is not an unfortunate coincidence, nor misuse, but a design flaw.
Still my 3GS is working without issues after being backpacking Europe for a month with me (don't ask me how my P&S camera finished the trip....). My mom has an iPhone 4 which endured almost unavailable drops (it fell from her lap when getting out of her car, and slid for 50 meters down street), suffering only minor scratches on a side, and no damage in the screen from the slide. IMPRESSIVE for phones being less resistant in each iteration according to some.
I'm sure my iPhone 5 will be full of scratches in the back in no time. But at least for me is a fair trade for not having issues with cracks in the dock. For me functionality and resistance (overall resistance, not cosmetic persistence) is the utter most important thing in my day to day devices.
Stuff like what happened to the OP is an extreme case. As most of you, I agree that it suffered some sort of severe trauma. Nonetheless it is possible that out of the millions iPhones produced, one precise piece of metal had a thinner thickness and that it matched exactly with the weakest structural point in the iPhone. That argument obviously will fade as the occurrence of the same issue increase as it will be more probable that it is due to misuse. If the occurrence get insanely high then it is not an unfortunate coincidence, nor misuse, but a design flaw.
UPDATE:
finally had a chance to waste 2+hours of my time to travel almost 40 minutes away to get to an apple store. Very disappointing but not surprised by the outcome. Everyone there said this is the first time they have seen it (i dont believe it).
since i am 2-3 weeks past the ability to add applecare (you can add if up to 30 days after you bought the phone), i had to pay the price of $245 to have it replaced. Seriously! they could of made an exception and add the applecare for $99 and then i could of paid $49 to have the phone replaced. But no, add an extra $100 to the net worth of apple, hopefully that puts them over the 700 Billion marker.
I told him i wanted it noted on my account so that if this becomes an issue in the near future, i can try and get my $245 back. like that matters.
my final thoughts:
1. I am no longer an iPhone fan, or that fact an Apple fan.
2. I own an ipad 2 and when that becomes obsolete I will probably buy a computer/tablet all in one type deal. Its kind of ridiculous if you think about it, that you pay all this money for it and you cant do anything but install their apps. I want a USB and i want a hard drive that can read and write files. BOY ARE WE GULLIBLE
3. I will no longer try to convince non-iphone users to switch to the iPhone. And by my count i have probably referred and influenced over 70-100 people into switching (since the first phone came out 7 years ago). That will no longer be the case. I will tell them how horrible of a company Apple is and how they don't care about their customers and how the quality of the phone has gone down.
4. I will be hanging on to the iphone 5 for now, mainly because i want to wait for the galaxy 4 to come out in February (don't quote me there on the timeframe).
5. Hell!!! i am done with this
hopefully people keep posting pics of their bent iPhones here
I'm pretty sure you are a troll OP but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Post a picture of the receight for the replacement (with personal details hidden of course) and stop all the doubts of whether you are telling the truth or not.
here you go!!
And lets make one thing very very clear here, I HAVE NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, PUT A PHONE IN MY BACK POCKET so this was not caused by that. And the phone is on me 99% of the time and since it would of taken a GREAT deal of force to bend it, I am pretty sure i would of noticed something if I did it.
and to answer intofx reply about being special or something with the applecare, NO i don't think i am special, but i run a business and i was just stating the fact that it is bad business. We make exceptions all the time for people to keep them as customers even if we have to eat the profits. Obviously, we are not a 600+ BILLION dollar company so maybe when we finally reach that point we can tell customers to "****** off" because we are too big to fail. I never buy warranties, most of them are rip offs, like gift cards.
one thing i have learned from this thread is that most people are fans of Apple because its Apple (so was the case with me). They could of took a dump in a box and slapped an Apple logo on it and most of us would buy it just because. You will see how all that will change in the future, i read articles all the time, apple is past its INNOVATING period. And i dont even use siri since she cant understand anything i want, "would you like me to search the web for that", yeah no thanks, i can search the web myself you dumb C**t
QQ more please. LOL
if you run a business, you could have at least got the warranty. Oh well, this forum loses one more unlucky individual that had some crazy bending problem and droid gets a new customer. We will be seeing him return shortly, like they all do.
You must have done something, I am very skeptical of spontaneous separation. So I must call BS.
No worries. He's no longer an "Apple, iPhone, etc..." "fan" so he should be selling the phone in short order and moving on to an appropriate Android plastic pile.
Unless like the hundreds of "scuffgate" and "purplehazegate" and "bendgate" folks he's so hopping mad that he STILL can't part with the phone.
You'd think with all the "problems" that there would be PLENTY of available stock, and Apple would be issuing apology after apology. I am sure there are legitimate cases of manufacturing defects, but they are FAR from the norm and FAR from a "problem". Even if there were thousands of phones with issues, out of millions, the odds are still good you will never encounter one.
So goodbye. It's no loss to them, and no, you WEREN'T the sole cause of their profitibility passing 700 Billion (sorry the world doesn't revolve around your purchases). If you are no longer a "fan" because they wouldn't bend over for you, after you neglected to buy a warranty during the GENEROUS 30 day period they give literally everyone to register, but you chose not to, and you paid the price.
Even if I believed your phone "spontaneously" did xyz, not having AC+ was 100% your decision, and 100% not Apple's fault. Period.
Unless like the hundreds of "scuffgate" and "purplehazegate" and "bendgate" folks he's so hopping mad that he STILL can't part with the phone.
You'd think with all the "problems" that there would be PLENTY of available stock, and Apple would be issuing apology after apology. I am sure there are legitimate cases of manufacturing defects, but they are FAR from the norm and FAR from a "problem". Even if there were thousands of phones with issues, out of millions, the odds are still good you will never encounter one.
So goodbye. It's no loss to them, and no, you WEREN'T the sole cause of their profitibility passing 700 Billion (sorry the world doesn't revolve around your purchases). If you are no longer a "fan" because they wouldn't bend over for you, after you neglected to buy a warranty during the GENEROUS 30 day period they give literally everyone to register, but you chose not to, and you paid the price.
Even if I believed your phone "spontaneously" did xyz, not having AC+ was 100% your decision, and 100% not Apple's fault. Period.
I'll take my guess too. It looks like someone sat on it with the phone in their back pocket (not smart).
Well that is me sticking with the 4S. I ALWAYS carry my iphone in my back jeans pocket and sit down with it in there! Done it this way since the first iPhone and never had a problem. I am not changing the way I use it. I don't want a man bag to carry it in
You must've done something to it. iPhones don't spontaneously separate without an outside force.
Your getting mad at a company because you choose to never buy warranties. This was your choice and not the companies burden no matter how big or small. Ac+ is not just a warrenty its a insurance policy as it covers accidental damage. Do have insurance for your car? How much do you pay a month? More then $99... Let your covrage lapse and get into a accident a month later, should the company cover you? They make billions of dollars as well. You took your chance and lost.
This is amazing ....
It's 4:50 am and I am sitting here watching an iPhone 5 twisting and turning all by itself.
I'm just about half way through my bottle of Tequilla and started play an old song called " Twist And Shot " on the iPhone.
The damn thing stood up and began dancing across the table.
I hope when it stops dancing that it doe not get bent out of shape!
Yeah this is a joke - I don't own an iPhone 5 ( my iPhone 4 is more than I need ) and I do not drink!
It's 4:50 am and I am sitting here watching an iPhone 5 twisting and turning all by itself.
I'm just about half way through my bottle of Tequilla and started play an old song called " Twist And Shot " on the iPhone.
The damn thing stood up and began dancing across the table.
I hope when it stops dancing that it doe not get bent out of shape!
Yeah this is a joke - I don't own an iPhone 5 ( my iPhone 4 is more than I need ) and I do not drink!
That's got nothing to due with it. A strange problem like this is just the kind of thing to get people to join a forum like this. Do you know when I first joined this forum? January of 2012. When I first noticed that AT&Thad begun throttling my data.
so what when their join date was? Why does that matter? So you never want anyone to join the site? Everyone has to start sometime, just because their join date wasn't like 5 years ago doesn't mean jack ****.