"The new ARM-based Mac Pro. For the pro in all of us"...
May be this is just a backup plan.
The report contrasts Intel's focus on performance with ARM's focus on power efficiency and notes that there is no inherent reason why Apple couldn't push ARM technology more toward the performance end of the spectrum to make the chips more suitable for desktops and notebooks.
I can see it now, NO multitasking every app will take the entire screen now and if you minimaze it will stop working until you resume.
Need to share some files across the system ? Fck that ! They allready started hiding everything on osx
That was my point in yesterdays discussion which was lost on most people who only made comparisons to the current ARM chips used in phones and such. We will have to wait and see of course, but I doubt that Apple will ever make the switch if it does not present significant advantages to what is currently offered by intel. If that is not possible it will never happen. /end prediction.
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That has nothing to do with what chip that is used, it could happen with intel, it could happen with ARM or any other chip. Nothing is really hidden in OS X btw.
Try to search for ios updates (ipsw) you download in itunes the regular way; and yes osx will go down but what they are trying to do with it, merge the 2 and boom lockdown.
That is mere speculation of course, I doubt we will see a merge. What they have done is to take some UI concepts which have proven successful on iOS and applied them in OS X. Personally, I like to see only my files and my user folder in the GUI. For any system related files there is Terminal or other system admin tools available. It's just a natural way to make sure that the clutter of files unrelated to my day to day activities is out of my way. Terminal also provides obfuscation in a very natural way imo, if you do not feel comfortable in it, you probably shouldn't touch it.
I guess you are in favor to make people dumb ? Why will you want to hide "important" files to people and make then resort to "complicated" things (will be for someone that dont handle" if you limit the experience you limit the challenge and with no challenge you limit the brain; i though that in a few years everyone plus the new generation will be capable of handle computers and solve small problems without having to call tech support etc.
Btw how do you want people learn how to use terminal or take interest in learning unix code etc if you hide it from then and just tell then that use the apps and let the other stuff to the experts ? Its bs
Nope. The files isn't hidden, they just use an appropriate interface. I use the Terminal daily, all the time actually, in my perspective the GUI is a higher level view of the system.
It could harm Samsung more than any lawsuit. And then they could reign all over mobile ecosystem. They only need something like 20 Billion dollars (they have more than 100 in cash) and some other factories than Samsung's (Texas Instruments by the way). It's not a matter of profitability (which it could) but of dominance.
Just wondering...
So if have a banana and put a towel on top is not hidden ?
Of course, but we are not dealing with bananas and towels here. Can we end this now, please and talk about ARM vs intel?
It could harm Samsung more than any lawsuit. And then they could reign all over mobile ecosystem. They only need something like 20 Billion dollars (they have more than 100 in cash) and some other factories than Samsung's (Texas Instruments by the way). It's not a matter of profitability (which it could) but of dominance.
Just wondering...
There is no chance Apple will abandon the X86 architecture. It would be suicide. It would be more likely, and not a bad idea, for Apple to design and build an X86 of its own design.
As they should, Apple is likely tired of the lack of speed and innovation at Intel in the development of newer and more efficient X86 chips for Apple's ever more sophisticated computers.
This is very painful for devs as x86 is very different from ARM RISC, it isn't as simple as a trivial recompile in most cases. Intel's low power offerings are improving very rapidly and there would be a real risk that a move away from Intel wouldn't bring any real benefit by the time it is completed.
Is ARM even valued that high? I recall it being much lower. Hearing how many companies Apple should buy out is starting to get old. It's just a step backwards for technology companies buy out others solely to limit access to a commodity. As for Samsung, they'd find something different.
The facts of this argument are in the minutaie details. if you choose that you wish to look at it on a surface level and not deep delve into it like Knight is, and are finding yourself "overwhelmed", perhaps you're finding that your breadth of knowledge on this subject is outside of your scope and that he might in fact have more knowledge than you, and perhaps instead of dismissing his attempt to illustrate where you're lacking, you could learn a few things.
Dismissing his commentary as wrong because it's too deep and 'boring' doesn't change the fact that he's more likely correct. unless there is a significant advancement in ARM processor architecture that completely blows intel's advancements out of the water, he's correct.
But Intel has modified their release schedule due to Apple. Intel wouldn't be as focused on on-die graphics without the Apple deal. Intel isn't an inflexible company. They have long adjusted their path depending on clients. I see no reason why Intel wouldn't focus on avenues that are in demand. Haswell is the obvious point to look at. Huge graphics boost, very low TDP, while increasing processing power. Haswell is an extremely scalable architecture. From servers down to <10W applications.
I'll stick to the point of saying, ARM isn't getting to desktop/laptop level processing power in the immediate future. 5-10 years from now we may be talking about a different story, but in the near future I see no reason to move Mac to ARM.
by "will handle lower level communication with the OpenGL stack" you mean GLKit is an abstraction layer?
Please open this GLKit introduction tutorial http://www.raywenderlich.com/5223/beginning-opengl-es-2-0-with-glkit-part-1 You still need to know how to code OpenGL, notice the gl* functions there. If GLKit is really an abstraction layer, you will never see those gl* function calls.
Compare it to, for example, OpenSceneGraph and OGRE. Those are more like to what you mean by an abstraction layer.
Also check again the GLKit documentation page. It mentions the features of GLKit but nothing about abstraction.
The extra information I'm providing is so you can grasp that you misunderstand the purpose of those frameworks if you think they make a transition easier. They don't. They have nothing to do with transitions, as long as they are available on both sides, which they were for the Intel and PPC stuff...
nuckinfutz, it pains me to watch this argument between you and KnightWRX. While on a high level, it sounds plausible. But by doing said "deep dive," it becomes obvious that whoever dreamed up this idea didn't do any of their homework. By ignoring the technical details, you don't seem to understand how unrealistic the scenario you're arguing for is, yet you continue to press for it.
KnightWRX (as well as MacMilligan, techwhiz, and other naysayers) are correct that switching Macs from Intel to ARM is a pretty bad idea for both Apple and for Apple's customers for the foreseeable future.
Leverage over Intel. Be nice to us or we're gone.