Are you saying that Apple didn't deserved success with the iPods because they stole Creative's ideas?
I know, right? Apple's shameless ripoff of this thing was so blatantly obvious.
Are you saying that Apple didn't deserved success with the iPods because they stole Creative's ideas?
Oh the irony. I was feeling a little "clever" - setting up this exchange. Sorry you got sucked into it...
I know, right? Apple's shameless ripoff of this thing was so blatantly obvious.
So more patents means what? Have you ever really looked at what Samsung patents?
Is it not true? If you were being sarcastic, it was very vague.
Well then, why respond to a chain of comments about who first invented it only saying that the iPhone was more popular? How was that a relevant post?
Again more falsehoods about Samsung Electronics. These are patents granted in 2011:
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Apple is ranked #39 with 676 patents granted. Most of Apple's patents are software patents which are dubious to begin with.
Because the innovation involved entails more than the electronic component, the screen. Simply slapping on a new type of touch screen does not make a successful implementation of a touch screen device. It's a response to the "innovation" argument, which supposedly is disproven by the fact that there where earlier phones with touch screens. These phones failed, which is an indication that they did not get the interface right, Apple on the other hand did, which is the innovatation we are talking about here.
Again more falsehoods about Samsung Electronics. These are patents granted in 2011:
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Apple is ranked #39 with 676 patents granted. Most of Apple's patents are software patents which are dubious to begin with.
Oh my God! Those buildings have windows and are built in an upwards fashion. Quick someone sue Samsung for copying other skyscrapers!
Yes. Have you looked at Apple's?
My point was - both Apple and Samsung (and a lot of tech) aren't inventors but implementers. Or build products on the backs of other tech.
But what this and 90 percent of the back and forth in this thread have ANYTHING to do with the actual topic is beyond me. Samsung doesn't want to settle. There's really nothing to say about that other than. Ok. They don't want to settle.
I know, right? Apple's shameless ripoff of this thing was so blatantly obvious.
You do know Apple is a software company first so by default that is where their patent concentration would be...it's not like this is news. This has been the case for over 30 years.
Not to mention most of the electronics in Apple devices are riding on Samsung patents, design, and innovation.
FOX News speak there - you use percentages for Apple and then real numbers for Samsung. Apple focuses on a few lines of products, this is why they require less R&D. Other companies want a piece of every pie they see, which requires a lot more funds. Samsung happens to have their foot in just about everything under the sun...which means high operating costs. Through all of this, you're missing what makes Apple and companies like them even stronger at making better products.
Yes, Apple patents products, not ways to make products - or 50 iterations of the same technology with one minor difference, which is what Samsung patents.
So again, the fact that Apple did not invent capacitive touch-based phones is negated by Apples implementation being more "innovative"?
AAPL total assets are $177 billion. At 3% of $177 billion = $5.31 billion which is less than $10 billion spent by Samsung. So AAPL spends about half of what Samsung spends on R&D and in the next few years will be dwarfed by Samsung.
Apple needs to drop its charges against Samsung, it will only cost money and they will lose in the end.
Samsung knows nothing but to copy. They copy EVERYTHING in every one of their products from washers (a copy of Whirlpool and Maytag) to televisions, to cell phones. I refuse to buy anything from this company. Not that they care, of course.
What? Ok - that answers the question. You haven't looked at Apple's patents. At least not enough of them. Nor Samsung's. Thanks for clarifying.
You do know Apple is a software company first so by default that is where their patent concentration would be...it's not like this is news. This has been the case for over 30 years.
I'll fix your analogy since it was terrible. If you came to me with evidence that I was infringing your patent, said that you would like to reach a license agreement and I refused, then yes I would say it is ok for you to sue me because that's how the law works...So if i approach you multiple times and demand that you give me a billion dollars and you didn't do it you would think it was ok if i litigated against you?
Denying a settlement does in no way mean either Samsung nor Apple is right/wrong.
Again, no. On the component side arguably coming up with the screen itself is the big achievement. Adding that component innovated by someone else into a phone isn't really that innovative in it self.
Seriously? Go look again.
AAPL total assets are $177 billion. At 3% of $177 billion = $5.31 billion which is less than $10 billion spent by Samsung. So AAPL spends about half of what Samsung spends on R&D and in the next few years will be dwarfed by Samsung.
Apple needs to drop its charges against Samsung, it will only cost money and they will lose in the end.